Talk:Christian IV of Denmark

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On 26 November 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Christian IV. The result of the discussion was not moved.

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Why not mention, that Christian IV's motto was "Gudsfrygt styrker rigerne", meaning "Devoutness strengthen the kingdoms"?

It was "Fromhed styrker riget" or "Regna firmat pietas". See also Royal mottos of Danish monarchs Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 02:12, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

True! Incidentally, its abbreviation, RFP, used on Corona Danica coinage, was interpreted by the contemporary Danish-Norwegian populace to mean "Riget Fattes Penge", meaning "The realm is composed of money". Boreanesia 14:05, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but I don't understand your translation. "Riget Fattes Penge" was indeed a common (satirical) rendering of Christian's motto, but it means "The Realm Needs Cash" (or perhaps better: "The Realm is Short of Cash"). Such claims wouldn't have sounded very convincing at the start of Christian's reign but a lot more convincing near the end of it. Valentinian ^{T / C} 18:32, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In Fiction[edit]

Don't normally suggest editing articles, but it seemed silly not to here. Christian IV is the central character in the book "Music and Silence" by Rose Tremain. It seemed strange to have a "in fiction" section and not include this.Tpacw (talk) 11:56, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Legacy[edit]

There's a sentence in the "Legacy" section that confuses me: "Nevertheless, Christian attained a legacy of great popularity with the people, as one of the few Danish kings from the House of Oldenburg."

As I understand it (and I'm no historian), the House of Oldenburg ruled Denmark for several hundred years, so there were more than a few Danish kings from the House of Oldenburg. Additionally, I have no idea what connection his royal house has with his popularity, and I don't understand what the writer was trying to say with this sentence. As such, I'll leave it alone, but request that somebody more knowledgeable than me clarify and/or correct the sentence. 128.163.7.129 (talk) 14:03, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Although I did not write the original sentence, I have changed the wording to "Nevertheless, Christian was one of the few Danish kings from the House of Oldenburg that achieved a lasting legacy of popularity with the Danish people", which suspect was the message the original writer intended to convey. --Saddhiyama (talk) 14:12, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Succession date[edit]

Did he really succeeded as King in 4 April 1588? Denmark was an elective monarchy during his days. He must have been elected as king shortly after his father's death unless he was recognized as heir during his father's lifetime.--Queen Elizabeth II's Little Spy (talk) 02:27, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Witch Hunter[edit]

Christian IV was obsessed with witches during the Burning Times. This is barely mentioned here and not at all in the Danish version of the page. Someone with the appropriate sources to refer to (a Dane who cares about historical fact?) should expand this disturbing aspect to a leader who is still regarded highly today. We need our history warts and all, please! (example reference: https://www.mtholyoke.edu/courses/rschwart/hist257/lawstatejudges/denmark.html) Kaecyy (talk) 16:50, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hair[edit]

I have created a small article on Lovelock

I am running into mixed information from sources:

"RCIN 612170 - Christianvs Qvartvs dei Gratia Daniae, Norwegiae". Royal Collection. Retrieved 2017-11-01.
Ashdown, Mrs. Charles H. (2012). British Costume from Earliest Times to 1820. Courier Corporation. p. 418. ISBN 978-0-486-14762-8.

(1) says the wore a plat because of the medical condition Plica polonica, and that others in his court copied it to make it into a Danish court fashion. (2) says that he wore a lovelock with no mention of a medical condition. Now it could be that the two are one of the same, but the problem I have is that the images on Commons ( Media related to Christian IV of Denmark at Wikimedia Commons); because some images show the lock on the left some on the right and some without.

Does anyone have a detailed English biography which discuss this and what does it say. What do Danish sources say about it?

-- PBS (talk) 11:29, 1 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress[edit]

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Christian I of Denmark which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 21:16, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]