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Dear wikipedians I made this article as I myself come from cheshire, and understand the difference between the local dialect and that of stafordshire. However, the dialect I talked about isn't that much diferent from the dialects of stafordshie, so please feel free to delete it if you feel the need to.

yours sincerly Kentynet (talk) 18:02, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Stub[edit]

Im very sorry, but is a cheshire dialect really 'Indo European'? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.132.228.42 (talk) 18:00, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's Indo-European. It's a dialect of English, which is a Germanic language. Germanic is one of the many Indo-European languages. I have to say, I live in East Cheshire and, although I often hear a Manchester accent, it's certainly not what most people would call the local dialect and it's not spoken by a majority. I think the situation is more complicated than "Liverpool spoken in the West, Manchester in the East". The actual subject of this article is Cheshire dialect though. This is related to Staffordshire English and it's found in books by Alan Garner and in the works of the Pearl Poet. --86.25.238.58 (talk) 19:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Midlands/North?[edit]

This article describes it as being a Midlands accent, but people from Cheshire like to bang on about being in the North rather than the Midlands. Salopian (talk) 01:55, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well technically Cheshire is in the North West. Besides, who calls themselves a "Midlander", there's a Northern and Southern identity, no Midland one. XD Kentynet (talk) 18:02, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually there is a Midland identity, though it is not as strong or common as the Northern or Southern identity. In any case I doubt many people from most of the Midlands (especially somewhere like the Black Country, Birmingham or Coventry) would identify themselves as a Northerner or Southerner. Broman178 (talk) 08:34, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Amalgamation?[edit]

Although the cited source mentions that there is very great similarity with the Lancashire Dialect, it also states that the County Palatine of Chester remained fairly isolated from the other counties and that the language and culture developed somewhat independently.

Is the word 'Amalgamation' ,in the opening paragraph, appropriate in explaining the similarity with the dialects of border counties? Or should there instead be an explanation of independent yet similar evolution of the language from Anglo-Saxon origins?

The word 'Amalgamation' hints of the Cheshire dialect being constructed of an imported mish-mash of other dialects rather than a significant and independent dialect in itself. (Cesdeva (talk) 21:50, 20 September 2013 (UTC))[reply]

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Phonology Section[edit]

Considering Cheshire English is classed as a separate dialect or even group of accents in England compared with the surrounding counties/areas, I really think there should be a phonology section in this article for the Cheshire dialect because most dialect/accent articles in Wikipedia have sections based on the phonology but for some reason, this article doesn't have one which makes it a bit vague (along with the fact that there isn't much detail on the vocabulary). I have tried looking for some information on the phonology online but I can't seem to find much detail on it at the moment which I guess is down to the fact that the Cheshire dialect is one of the most overlooked and least common dialects within England (especially as parts of Cheshire are similar to surrounding accents like Merseyside or Mancunian). However, I will keep looking until I find something important but it would be useful if anyone else who is an expert on phonology or who knows the Cheshire dialect well can find something on the phonology of this dialect/accent. Many thanks. Broman178 (talk) 06:10, 30 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]