Talk:Catepanate of Italy

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Expansion of Scope?[edit]

For consideration...An additional but relevant dimension that might be added to this article, besides the existing political one, would be to have a separate section on the religious / cultural aspect of this province of the Byzantine Empire. This could include a discussion of Italo-Greek Monasticism. The Encyclopedia of the Middle Ages has an entry for this term, including the following definition:

"The term "Italo-Greek monasticism" refers to the implantation and history of Byzantine monasticism in Sicily and southern Italy. By the mid 9th c. Sicily was already reputed to be the home of numerous Greek hermits and small gatherings of monks famed for their ascetic experience. Substantial documentary evidence for the presence of Byzantine monks in southern Italy first appears in the 9th and 10th cc. and consists primarily in the lives of the great ascetic saints of this region..."

Robert E. Sinkewicz. "Italo-Greek". In: Richard Barrie Dobson. Encyclopedia of the Middle Ages, Volume 2 (K-Z). Eds.: André Vauchez, Michael Lapidge. Transl: Adrian Walford. Routledge, 2000. p.974.

One prominent Byzantine Saint from this region for example, was Saint Luke of Sicily (Leoluca) (†ca. 915); another is Saint Nilus of Rossano (†1005); although there may be others as well. And while Wikipedia does have an article on "Basilian monk", that article does not really describe in any detail the implantation of Byzantine Rite Orthodoxy is Southern Italy and Sicily - which apparently slightly predates the monastic establishment on Mount Athos. One extensive series of articles on this subject that could be consulted is as follows:

K. Lake. "The Greek Monasteries in South Italy I." J Theol Studies (1903) os-IV(15): 345-368 doi:10.1093/jts/os-IV.15.345.
K. Lake. "The Greek Monasteries in South Italy II." J Theol Studies (1903) os-IV(16): 517-542 doi:10.1093/jts/os-IV.16.517.
K. Lake. "The Greek Monasteries in South Italy III." J Theol Studies (1903) os-V(17): 22-41 doi:10.1093/jts/os-V.17.22.
K. Lake. "The Greek Monasteries in South Italy IV." J Theol Studies (1904) os-V(18): 189-202 doi:10.1093/jts/os-V.18.189.

Also:

David Paul Hester. Monasticism and Spirituality of the Italo-Greeks. Volume 55 of Analekta Vlatadōn. Patriarachal Institute for Patristic Studies [Patriarchikon Hidryma Paterikon Meleton], 1992.

At any rate, just wanted to raise the idea, and identify the sources above (although it may be that this should be covered in a separate article, just as the article on the Griko language is covered separately, and it might require a subject matter expert). Cheers, ΙΣΧΣΝΙΚΑ-888 (talk) 00:43, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea! 155.213.224.59 (talk) 15:07, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Map[edit]

I've noticed that the map in this page is wrong.The Byzantins didn't control Naples neither Amalfi that time.Also,the borders were not so north of Bari.In 1040s, Georgios Maniakis liberated several towns in Eastern Sicilly.Could anyone depict the latter on the map?.--DCGT888 (talk) 15:42, 24 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]