Talk:Burnley F.C. in European football

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 18:41, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Comments

  • Lead looks unbalanced with a large first para and very brief second para, perhaps level that up a little.
  • Notes which are complete sentences should take a full stop (e.g. [a]).
  • "who has made" reads odd, which has made?
  • " since 1960" explain why this is the threshold.
    • Removed that part since it's mentioned in the following sentence. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 17:31, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Or merge it with the following sentence and say " which was the first season they qualified for a European competition" or some such.
  • "The club's following European..." which club?
  • "where it was" reads odd for me in Brit Eng, "they were" works better for me.
  • "other competitive European football" you mean "non-UEFA-sanctioned" or something?
  • " final in 1974" hate those Easter egg links, you could pipe the whole thing, or even "the 1974 final".
  • " a transfer fee was paid for only two players — Jimmy McIlroy (1950) and Alex Elder (1959)." it's odd to say transfer fee then put the year (I assume) of their transfer in parentheses. I get it but I'm not sure a non-soccer reader would.
  • "Reims were the 1959–60 French Division 1 champions,[8] were" missing an "and".
  • Plus too many run-ons, split this.
  • "featured the likes of Just Fontaine and Raymond Kopa" to a non-expert this is "MEH". Context?
    • Reworded and gave a short explanation. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 17:31, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • " after he picked up the ball " non-experts screaming "isn't that what the boy did at Rugby School?"
  • "and qualified as such for " no need for "as such".
  • "for a hectic first round return leg against Stade de Reims" sentence, needs full stop, plus "hectic" is POV, not Wikipedia voice.
  • "Hamburg were in front again inside six minutes as Gert Dörfel and Seeler scored" perhaps "both" in front of Gert there.
  • "By the time Burnley ..." feels like one too many run-ons here.
  • "In 1971, the" that's a proper Easter egg.
    • Removed the link as it's not really helpful. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 17:31, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "José Altafini's penalty (Napoli) was..." sentence so full stop but the (Napoli) thing is confusing, was it simply "for Napoli"? If so, just say that.
  • Leeds United lost it's A for A.F.C. a while back.
  • "Burnley won the first leg 3–1 at Lausanne's ground after conceding first" no details on goal scorers here, seem anomalous.
  • "They were drawn" -> "Burnley were.."
  • " be much more difficult. " for....?
  • Probably need to attribute that Italian press quote, I assume the source is quoting a quote?
    • The source gives the full quote, but only implies that "... the Italian press whipped up Fairs Cup fever with sentiments like [quote]". WA8MTWAYC (talk) 17:31, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "was spit in his" spat?
  • "later at home in" whose home?
  • "Manager Sean Dyche (2013..." image caption needs a full stop.
  • " In those years," during perhaps, rather than "in"? Or even "During that period"?
  • "to the fifth-tier" worth noting that's non-League?
  • Perhaps just a little too much on Burnley's domestic performance, although I understand it gives the qualification for Europe some context.
  • Cork is overlinked.
  • "who died three" had died. And worth being clear this wasn't down to hooliganism.
  • "the team missed" which team?
  • "debut three minutes later.[39]" conclude with aggregate score and "they went out" etc.
  • "Most appearances in European competition" UEFA-sanctioned?
  • "UEFA Europa League " is suddenly linked 3/4 of the way down this list.
  • Slight issue with some of the records being cited to a 2007 source when Burnley have been in Europe post-2007....
    • The only "record" that was broken post-2007 was the lowest home attendance (and is sourced). The other records have remained intact. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 17:31, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't think source 47 (to RSSSF) covers most of that para e.g. "as their public showed little interest in the competition", so work needed there.
    • Added some other sources, reworded a large part of the paragraph. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 17:31, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Blank cells for single-legged games is not helpful at all for our readers.
  • Also, can you clarify if the Newcastle final venue was designated neutral? Why was it played at the ground of one of the finalists?
    • Couldn't find a reliable source or really an explanation, but I assume it was due to the fact Newcastle had also reached the FA Cup Final, which was contested a few days after the Texaco Cup final. Does the note need to be expanded? WA8MTWAYC (talk) 17:31, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • The "gold" and "silver" cell(s) need a symbol and a key to indicate "won/lost the tournament in the final".
  • Once again, check all notes for (a) references and (b) correct punctuation.
  • Ref 26, spaced hyphen, should be en-dash.
  • I'm pretty sure UEFA is a publisher, not a work.

That's it, first pass, I think there's more to do than this, but this is my initial assessment. Putting it on hold. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 19:38, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man Thanks for taking up this review! It's really appreciated. I've amended the points above and left some comments there. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 17:31, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for taking so long to get back to this, I missed the ping, but I'm generally content that this more than meets the GA requirements so I'm happy to promote it. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 19:26, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The Rambling Man That's alright. Thanks for this review, your comments are always appreciated! WA8MTWAYC (talk) 19:58, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 19 November 2023[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. more precise. (closed by non-admin page mover) Frostly (talk) 00:15, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Burnley F.C. in international football → Burnley F.C. in European football – Unlike teams such as Real Madrid, Liverpool or AC Milan Burnley has never played in international competitions (that is, competitions between clubs from different confederations/continents). It has only played against opponents in the European confederation, i.e. in European competitions. I have already taken the liberty of doing this move to the various other clubs that have never played international competitions, but I wanted to specifically request it in Burnley's case since this is a featured article. Sgubaldo (talk) 21:27, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: the proposed title actually was the name of the article until about a year and a half ago. I don't have a preference for either title. But, if the article's name gets changed, the infobox and category "English football clubs in international competitions" need to be fixed as well. Oh, just to add, Burnley were chosen to represent England in the first-ever International Soccer League, so the team have played in an international competition ;) Eem dik doun in toene (talk) 21:57, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 19:10, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom, should never have been moved here in the first place. GiantSnowman 19:12, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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