Talk:Brix Tavern

Advertisement tag

See also: User_talk:Another_Believer § Brix_Tavern

@Baffle gab1978 and Gerald Waldo Luis: Linking to the discussion on my user talk page for future reference. Gerald, do you agree with the tag addition? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:20, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Another Believer, although the prose doesn't read in promotion to me, I can see how it is viewed as such. For example, the sentence: One restaurant guide has described Brix Tavern as a "warm, contemporary" restaurant and bar serving "a unique collection of enduring American comfort food and cocktails enhanced with only the freshest, locally sourced ingredients". The Menu section probably isn't the best place to say that a guide called it unique, so probably just have it One restaurant guide has described Brix Tavern as a "warm, contemporary" restaurant and bar serving American comfort food and cocktails, using "fresh and locally sourced ingredients". GeraldWL 06:06, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Brix Tavern

CC-BY-SA; text below copied from Another Believer's talk page here; I'm copying it over so the convo can continue here. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 20:33, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Another Believer; sadly I've just tagged the above article with the {{Advert}} template; I don't think it has enough critical content or background, there's little about the people who own and run it, nothing about its unique selling points, etc. I couldn't find out why it's notable. I also notice all of the references come from local media; there's nothing wrong with that but some national and international sources would give some more interest for readers, I think. As it stands, all the article tells me is Brix Tavern is a nice place, serves a range of nice, inexpensive foods and does some promotional events. Sorry. Baffle☿gab 08:59, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Baffle gab1978, Well, I don't agree about the tag, but I've reviewed and kept many of your copy edits so thanks. I'm not sure if you want to share any concerns on the article's talk page or not, but other editors may see your tag addition as drive-by criticism unless they're made aware of your comments here. I will give some thought to how I can address your concerns. I don't feel any of the current text is promotional, as the tag suggests. Nor do I think any of the sources are inappropriate. Nor do I think any of the text is non-neutral. I believe the text is accurate and neutral based on reputable publications. Apparently the editor who reviewed my Good article nomination agreed. If you feel strongly about keeping the tag, you can share further thoughts, otherwise I understand if you have other priorities. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:43, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback, Another Believer. Well, I don't tag things just to cause embarrassment to people and I did leave an edit summary. I've copy-edited several restaurant articles and they've all had some interesting features; a particular style of food, interesting architecture, being managed by notable chefs, shaken up dining in their locales, have won major awards, etc. This article just says; "nice place, nice menu, nice food, good prices, holds events, bit of history, good reviews"; this is why I added the {{advert}} tag. Advertising comes in many forms—any text can be apparently neutral but biased though omitting negative and unflattering commentary. This is also why I'm surprised the reviewer waved the article straight though GAN. The venue appears to meet WP:GNG from local media coverage so {{notability}} would be unsuitable here. Now I have more time, I will try and find a more appropriate template. And yes, I'll happily link and copy this convo onto the article's talk page. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 20:27, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

I've reviewed the templates on offer and found nothing more suitable for this article, so I'm leaving the template intact. You may remove it if you wish because I won't replace it or do any more work on this article; my requested copy-edit is done and I'm off to bed :) Cheers, Baffle☿gab 21:54, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

@Gerald Waldo Luis: Putting this on your radar, if you're interested. Somewhat related, you might be interested to see Pastini Pastaria and The Liquor Store were nominated for deletion. Happy editing! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:55, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Another Believer, thanks for the ping! Good time to sweep out of articles like the storming, which I've... gotten into a fight recently. Don't look it up tho, it's embarassing GeraldWL 15:58, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Cheers, Baffle☿gab 20:33, 16 January 2021 (UTC)