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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Wizardman (talk · contribs) 01:03, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'll give this a review. Wizardman 01:03, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Images and sources both check out, as do any deadlink or copyright issues. Prose review will be tomorrow. Wizardman 01:33, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Tomorrow, three days, close enough. Here's what I found:

"but he struggled, batting .233 for Kansas City." for 'for kansas city' part is redundant.
Seems like there's a couple years of his playing career that were fully skipped over. Likewise the Astros managing career jumps from 75 to 80 all at once.
"Virdon began operating a baseball academy in 1956" the ref for that sentence should be fleshed out.

I'll do another read-through once the above is fixed. Wizardman 02:11, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ref has been filled out. Kansas City redundancy resolved. I didn't see much on Virdon's managing career, but I'll look again and address that by tomorrow. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:18, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Fixes look good, I'll do another read-through today (I could've sworn I had gotten back to this, my apologies). Wizardman 14:17, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I still haven't gotten to the missing years, I don't think. I've been busy IRL and haven't gotten to devote real time to this yet, but I will. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:03, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Added a line on the Astros in 1976, 1977, and 1978. I can add more. The "Coaching and managing" section is longer than his playing section (which is appropriate given his career), but I'm having a hard time thinking about how exactly to subsection it. Any thoughts? Otherwise it'll come to me in a day or so. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:10, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what would be ideal. I feel like there'd be less to gain from oversectioning each team, but I don't know of an alternative way. Wizardman 01:31, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah me neither. I'll check on any other missing years today, so let me know if there's anything else to fix. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:16, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't find anything else on a second read-through, but while I'm satisfied on the managerial side of things, the middle part of his playing career (57-59, 61) still feels too glossed over for me; are you sure there's not anything else notable to add? I'm not looking for Matt Holliday levels of detail of course, but there should be something considering that he had a rather lengthy career as an everyday player. Wizardman 02:24, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I actually found a source that could add some nice info into the early years, though I didn't find that to be a concern: [1]. I'm leaning towards passing now despite the nitpick above but i'd like to see that source added in at least. Wizardman 02:44, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Will do, and will ping when I do. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:14, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Wizardman: I added the astigmatism, and reordered the minor league section a bit to be more linear. I added a little for 57-59 but there's not much to say about those years. He was a steady .260s hitter with strong defense, if I list stats from each year, it'll get redundant quick. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:49, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good. I had the same problem with the last article I wrote so I get where you're coming from (why consistently decent players are the toughest to write about I don't know). Since everything's set I'll pass this as a GA. Wizardman 11:45, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I think it's because consistency is boring. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:57, 24 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

1968[edit]

The article mentions he retired as a player after 1965, and the coaching section talks about his joining the Pirates coaching staff for 1968, but he has 1968 batting stats per Baseball Reference, and the year is listed in the infobox. Would be good to add something that explains how he came to have 3 atbats - including a homerun - in 1968. Echoedmyron (talk) 18:13, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I added something brief from his SABR BioProject entry. Larry Hockett (Talk) 19:10, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

1973[edit]

I edited a little to clarify that the team's record was 67-69 when Virdon was fired, and not the team's record for the season.Arnold Rothstein1921 (talk) 13:54, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]