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The following references may be useful when improving this article in the future:

Colvin, Matthew H.; Lawres, Nathan R. (March–June 2017). "Presenting the First Chronometric Dates from Big Mound City, Florida". The Florida Anthropologist. 70 (1–2): 61–71 – via University of Florida Digital Collections.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: date format (link)
Johnson, William Gray (December 1996). "A Belle Glade Earthwork Typology and Chronology". The Florida Anthropologist. 49 (4): 249–260 – via University of Florida Digital Collections.
Colvin, Matthew H.; Lawres, Nathan (2019). "Evidence for Large Scale Rapid Construction in a Belle Glade Monument: Big Mound City Revisited". The Florida Anthropologist. 72 (4): 215–243 – via Academia.edu.

Edit discussion, per help desk request[edit]

I saw a complaint on the help desk about info for this article being removed, and thought this would be the best place to discuss. Here is the edit that was reverted. [[1]] There appears to be some good info there, but it is hurt by the syntax and grammatical errors which hurt the page more than helped. The user was notified about this and hopefully we can engage fruitfully here. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 19:31, 17 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Let's start with the code 8PB48. I see it referenced in several texts, but with no context. "The remainder of this report focuses in on our initial results from the Big Mound City site (8PB48)." I Googled it and can't figure out what it means. Can you clarify? There may be a related template or field in the infobox where this can go instead. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 19:39, 17 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

8PB48 is the Smithsonian trinomial for the site ('8' is Florida, 'PB' is Palm Beach County, 48th site registered in the county). Most archaeological sites in any of the United States (but not D.C. or other non-states) is assigned a "Smithsonian trinomial". It is common in the archaeological literature to give the Smithsonian trinomial early in an article. One use I have for the Smithsonian trinomial is to search the Internet using it to find sources related to a particular site. I have linked the first trinomial in some articles to the WP article Smithsonian trinomial, but that is my personal style, and I don't know how many other editors do so. - Donald Albury 21:33, 17 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clarifying. I looked for a master list and couldn't find one. Without such a list, I'm not sure I get the value of having the number in the article at all. It doesn't seem to be in any infoboxes, nor is there a template for it. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 23:16, 17 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

At least some sites in Florida can be looked up in something called Open Context: https://opencontext.org/projects/81204AF8-127C-4686-E9B0-1202C3A47959

After choosing a couple of options (not entirely intuitive), I reached this page: https://opencontext.org/subjects/D2CD04ED-77C9-4316-F7DF-8080A7B607BB

There is some information on types and periods for the site. The system seems designed for uploading additional information, so hopefully will become more useful in the future. - Donald Albury 00:29, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the info. I'm not seeing how the number currently adds any value to the article, so I'd vote to exclude the number in the lede, even if it had a corresponding link to the Smithsonian trinomial article. If it ever becomes important for more reasons, we can always reconsider. Not sure how much longer it's going to be visible, but here's the post that got my attention and started this. [[2]] The upset editor hasn't come here to discuss, so I'm not going to worry about it for now. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 00:04, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The editor did post at Talk:Fort Center, and I responded there. - Donald Albury 00:48, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ah-ha - I see. You gave good advice. This article is now on my watchlist - I'm happy to help any way I can, but offline sources are tough for people outside the field or area of interest. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 01:28, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]