Talk:Berber Jews

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I changed this: "Berber Jews are the ancient Jewish communities inhabiting the region of the Maghreb in North Africa." => to: "Berber Jews are the Berber Jewish communities inhabiting the region of the Maghreb in North Africa." The first statement was not accurate becasue there are many jewish berber in the present, if that article goes on the ancient berber jews, it should then be called "ancient berber jews".Read3r 13:47, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The author stated that Dihya was a jewess. That is speculation. No historical proof is provided to proove that. The sources that claimed her jewish origin were arab-islamic sources. The old arabs called many people "jews" because "jew" sounded negative to the early arab-muslims. If someone can provide a source about her jewish origin. I would be greatful and i will agree to call her jewish.Read3r 14:04, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The author stated this: "In post-colonial North-Africa, Judaism, as well as Christianity and other local historical belief-systems were banned, and their practitioners persecuted by the newly formed pro-Baathist regimes" I believe Baathism was restricted to Syria and Iraq, and had little influence in North Africa.

Origins[edit]

Whoever wrote the origins section did not source any of their arguments, using only anecdotal evidence. In addition it is heavily slanted towards the viewpoint that Jews are a "unique" people who do not mix with others. Subsequently, it is assumed that Jews do not prosletize. This contradicts historical evidence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.58.152.193 (talk) 18:04, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Figures in the box[edit]

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the info-box at the right giving figures for the population is totally misleading. The figures are accurate for North African Jews: around 5.000 still in the Maghreb (nearly all of them in Morocco), and around 350.000 in Israel, these are the two figures I can confirm. But only a small part of them were Berber Jews: most - or at least a big part - of the North African Jews spoke Arabic or - in some families - Spanish. The article itself states that there are around 2000 Berber speakers in Israel. Add around at most 1000 in Morocco. And not much more, I'm afraid. Somebody to correct this? Thanks--Ilyacadiz (talk) 22:08, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I did the correction myself. The only trustworthy figure seems to be the 2.000 Berber speakers in Israel, as 'Berber' is a mostly language-defined culture, that should be our starting point. We can't exclude that there are still a few (even a few hundreds of) Jewish Berber speakers around in the 3,500 - 4,000 community of Moroccan Jews; there might also be some in Europe and America, but we have no figures.--Ilyacadiz (talk) 16:39, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed alot of this article , because it was made by Berber-centrists. Actually , the term "Berber Jew" can't be apllied to all North African Jews , since 70 to 80% of them used to speak daily local Arabic. So I changed this passage of this article and I wrote all language that Jews in North Africa had spoken (Hebrew ,Judeo-Arabic , Judeo-Spanish , Berber)—Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.132.96.27 (talk) 14:30, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Source your edits and login please, Ekarfi13. Jayjg ^(talk) 02:47, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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