Talk:Bashkir rebellion of 1704–1711

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User:Turbo Sheri[edit]

I am considering removing every single edit you have made to this page for the following reasons:

They are all unsourced
They display a clear bias against Russia and/or pro-rebellion eg. [1]
Your edit summaries are misleading, for example when I added a reliable source, you reverted it and said I was engaging in "vandalism". Special:Diff/1164090459/1164284857
You have this problem elsewhere of not using sources eg. Bashkir rebellion of 1681–1684
Basically everything you are adding to Wikipedia is unreliable and suspect of anti-Russian bias.

If you are unable to add reliable sources to every single sentence or fact, then don't add it. It won't last, people like me will challenge it and delete it. And I don't like Russia either but I am at least following the rules. -- GreenC 17:29, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'll be adding my sources to the edits. But in the article Bashkir Uprising, I added sources, there can be no claims against me on that article. Turbo Sheri (talk) 17:47, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

They should be neutral sources not old obscure Russian language sources few people on Wikipedia can verify for reliability and neutrality, there is plenty of modern up to date writing on these topics from neutral sources in Western academia. -- GreenC 17:51, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The source you added here is for school children (7th grade), it's not an academic source. You also misrepresent or misunderstand what it says. -- GreenC 11:45, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

And if, say, I use a reliable source, but in Russian, is it not prohibited? Turbo Sheri (talk) 12:33, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(I know my source is not reliable) Turbo Sheri (talk) 12:33, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The source that I added talks about many concessions by the insurgent, this indicates a political victory by the insurgent, it is clear to everyone that the uprising was suppressed, many sources say that the rebels won only politically, but the uprising was suppressed. Turbo Sheri (talk) 12:39, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Source[edit]

http://bashenc.ru/images/PDF/VE4.pdf has more info, I don't read Russian, there might be info on page 106 or 107. This is the same encyclopedia "Bashkortostan: A Brief Encyclopedia" used in the article, it might have different content. It's 7 volumes, "VE4.pdf" is volume 4. -- GreenC 19:35, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of "stalemate" from infobox[edit]

Removal of "stalemate" from infobox:

Special:Diff/1192760924/1192763685 - 2023-12-31
Special:Diff/1189690494/1189719062 - 2023-12-13
Special:Diff/1175054243/1175130886 - 2023-09-12
Special:Diff/1174228033/1174234171 - 2023-09-07
Special:Diff/1173263852/1173294234 - 2023-09-01
Special:Diff/1164284857/1164293114 - 2023-07-08

I see no reason why this won't continue indefinitely. -- GreenC 05:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I requested page protection. I agree this shouldn't be allowed to continue in a 2xAE area. // Timothy :: talk 06:39, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]