Talk:Baggy jeans

Original research

The following claims from the article seem to me to be original research:

• They are popular within skater culture.
• Often, to accent the bagginess an individual will wear a pair of baggies that are deliberately excessively large. For instance a guy who is a size 30 will wear baggies that are in fact a size 34.
• Baggy jeans became popular in the 1990s, especially within skater and hip hop culture.
• While skaters would wear jeans that were one or two sizes too big, some hip hoppers would wear baggies that were several sizes too large — so large that simple tasks like walking were difficult because the person would trip over the bottom of their pants, have their pants catch on objects or their pants would fall down.
• This later gave rise to the phenomenon known as "sagging"...
• In the 2000s baggies do not enjoy the widespread use they used to, but they are still worn by skaters, hip hoppers and many others who enjoy the extremely comfortable feel and the fact that their clothes give them freedom and do not restrict them.

Can anyone provide a reference for any of this? I don't consider it obvious or common knowledge, and I wouldn't know where to look to verify it. -GTBacchus^(talk) 01:45, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

References that ought to reassure you, although they are not citations:

• http://images.google.com/images?q=skater+jeans
• http://staffweb.esc12.net/~lrussell/html/facts.html
• http://www.unifitness.com/Pages/PresStreetJeans.html
• http://www.101clothing.com/
• http://www.washingtontimes.com/metro/20050208-105116-2078r.htm

Companies are selling it because people are buying it, not just in the US but in Germany and the UK as well. Gazpacho 04:01, 28 September 2006 (UTC) 04:01, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for those links Gazpacho, but you should know, it's not about "reassuring" me. I don't matter, and what's more, I basically agree that the above statements are true. Have you read Wikipedia:Verifiability, though? We're trying to write an encyclopedia of information that can be verified in reliable sources, not just stuff that we happen to know about. Wikipedia is not a "share your knowledge about the world" website; it's a "research sources and summarize what they say" website. That's why I'm disputing this article. I grew up in the '90s; I know about baggy jeans. I just don't think my observations as a youth count as encyclopedic. -GTBacchus^(talk) 18:47, 28 September 2006 (UTC)