Talk:Baby Boom Galaxy

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Did you know... that the newly discovered Baby Boom Galaxy (pictured) is seen producing stars at a rate of up to 4,000 per year, compared to our own Milky Way galaxy that produces an average of just 10 stars per year?

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name, type, record[edit]

Aside from the pop-promotion name by NASA, "J100054_023436" seems wrong. Is that underscore a plus "+" or minus "-" ? Exactly what record does this galaxy hold? Are there less bright starburst galaxies that are farther out? Are there closer starburst galaxies that are brighter? Where does "very distant" begin and end? Why is this categorized as a "peculiar galaxy" - there is no morphological type indicated, and "peculiar" is a morphological classification. 70.51.9.124 (talk) 11:24, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

EQ J100054+023435, Starburst Galaxy, SMG, LBG, LAG (LAE), maybe AGN, potential galaxy merger or collision... most distant non-quasar SMG - all from the discovery paper 70.51.9.124 (talk) 12:28, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bad DYK hook[edit]

Given the distance that this is from us, and that we're looking at what it did billions of years ago, the DYK hook on the main page is incorrectly written in the present rather than the past tense. Boston (talk) 16:43, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, it says "at a surprising rate..." That's editorializing. "Don't tell me how to feel!" Good article though. Sorry I didn't have an opportunity to notice these problems before the hook was promoted. Boston (talk) 16:58, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Was thinking the same thing - we don't know how many stars it is producing now (maybe we can't even be sure it exists now). We seeing a process earlier in the universe (although that universe might not be significantly different to the present universe). These points need making a little earlier in the article. Stevebritgimp (talk) 21:04, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How do you know?[edit]

Article blandly says that the galaxy is creating 4,000 stars a year. How is this known or estimated? Even if you could count the number of stars in the galaxy it has not been under observation long.

Interesting article but needs beefing up Papermaker (talk) 17:32, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tense[edit]

Why is this article written in the present tense? As we are viewing this galaxy as it was 12.2 billion years ago, it may not still be producing stars at it's previous rate. --HowardRob (talk) 17:36, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Accepted model?[edit]

I removed the wikilink to Hierarchical model for "accepted model" since the referenced article is about databases and seems to have nothing to do with astronomy or cosmology. If anybody knows of a suitable article on the accepted model, I'd invite them to add the link. Nibios (talk) 18:15, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Title[edit]

Why are we so in love with upper-case letters? We have "galaxy" in lower case in titles throughout the wiki, but here all words have capital letters. Should be "Baby boom galaxy". Macdonald-ross (talk) 16:15, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That depends on whether we (or perhaps NASA) regard "Baby Boom" as the proper name of this particular galaxy, or "baby boom" as an attribute of it and perhaps of others. The article seems to regard it as a proper name. Jmacwiki (talk) 05:00, 18 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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"Other designations" not correct[edit]

The "Other designations" entry gives a link to SIMBAD, but the object so named doesn't exist. The actual SIMBAD link to the Baby Boom galaxy appears to be this one, which lists COSMOS 2328516 as the primary identifier. 5.148.100.27 (talk) 10:37, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Math for amount of stars in this starburst galaxy, correct or wrong?[edit]

According to a site where it tells Baby Boom starburst galaxy facts for kids, it says that the astronomers said they observed it when the Universe was about 1.4 BYo (Billion Years Old). Let's calculate the math. If the wikipedia says it creates 4,000 stars per year, then according to kiddie enclyopedia, it was observed when the universe was just 1.4 billion years old, than that means we have to multiply 1.4 Billion by 4000, we get a rough estimate of 7e+12 (7E12 or 7 Trillion) of 7 times ten to the twelfth power (7 * 10^12). More stars form from our very young universe until the age of the universe from 1.4 Billion to 13.7 billion has risen quickly. If we estimate, we can multiply (Age of universe estimated going up × 4000) 1 billion * 4000 to 2 billion * 4000 and et cetera. We can notice that every time we increase by a estimated one increasing the age universe, it goes up by 2 times. We can estimate that if the universe is approximately 13 BYo, then that means that the galaxy has 52 trillion stars. Then that means 13.7 Billion × 4000 is a whopping 54 trillion 800 billion stars (54,800,000,000,000). --StaleGuy22 (talk) 03:13, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Star formation is not a linear process: you can't just multiply the current star formation rate (SFR) by the age of the object. - Parejkoj (talk) 18:26, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]