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Folding in overlapping articles[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result was to merge into Art Deco in the United States . -- Karthanitesh (talk) 03:24, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This article's coverage is rather scattershot, but I think it would do well to merge in PWA Moderne and Greco Deco here. Both specifically refer to Art Deco architecture in the United States, as opposed to other countries (stripped classicism). Length isn't a problem as most of this article is taken up with image galleries and most of PWA Moderne is taken up with unsourced building lists. Greco Deco specifically appears to be an undue weight split given that it's based on one author's terminology. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^talk 19:24, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support That said both Greco Deco and PWA Moderne deserve section in merging article. Brtbng (talk) 16:20, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The PWA article is really just a long list; it will make the article much longer, without adding very much actual information. The Greco Deco article isn't very serious, and adds almost no information.I vote against folding in either one in their present form. Cordially, SiefkinDR (talk) 18:25, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think you misunderstand my point. Length isn't an issue because a long list doesn't belong in a standalone article in most situations, and given it's unsourced I'd be reticent about merging it. Likewise the Greco Deco article doesn't have much information and thus makes more sense to target this one with any sourced detail that can be pulled. It's about making one better article than three cruddy ones. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^talk 18:05, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Merged content[edit]

I have finished the WP:FMERGE as requested by the discussion and tried my best to make it fit naturally in the article. But more work might be needed, just wanted to let any editors know. -Karthanitesh (talk) 03:45, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WPA Moderne vs. PWA Moderne[edit]

Public Works Administration and Works Progress Administration are different New Deal programs. "PWA Moderne" is a perhaps more common architectural term, applying to PWA-built buildings of restrained Art Deco style. "WPA Moderne" has some usage. I already asked a while back, at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/Archive 69#Is WPA Moderne the same as PWA Moderne?, whether other NRHP editors knew of any differences, and was cautioned not to conflate the two. There may be differences. In the absence of further information, I think it best to open a separate section on WPA Moderne, which had no mention in this article before.

Two articles in progress, coming to mainspace soon, which refer to WPA Moderne are:

--Doncram (talk) 20:50, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

They're technically different government programs, but I don't think they're actually referring to different architecture. I collapsed a lot of this stuff together because different authors were calling the same styles of buildings slightly different names and acting as if it was novel. Otherwise, sources in the page already, such as the Fullerton Heritage site, use WPA/PWA interchangeably.[1] Or, to look at it the other way, what actually makes them distinct? I'd expect there to be sources discussing the differences between the two program's architecture if they were significant. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^talk 22:44, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ummm, Tulsa?[edit]

You didn’t mention Tulsa in this article. Thankfully many of the Art Deco buildings survived the urban renewal efforts of the 60’s. As a child I witnessed the implosion of some of those gems 🥺 2A00:1028:8398:1C6A:E8B5:9527:DB91:96CF (talk) 09:12, 28 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]