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Cover page[edit]

Hi, I've added a cover page image (Vol. I 1846) per Academic Journals/Writing guide#Cover, although according to that it should go in the infobox. The coat of arms currently in the infobox seems out of place for readers not familiar with the journal's cover page, but I didn't want to overwrite the image without consulting other editors. A modern cover page would also be suitable but I do like the historical aspect of the first cover page, although it's not as colourful.

Possibly modern cover page in the infobox, 1846 cover page as article illustration? The motto could also feature more prominently in the info box as the cover page caption - see The Red Dragon for instance.

What do other editors think?

Please also comment on the accuracy of the motto translation. Would "Wales Past, Wales Future" be more appropriate? Thanks. :) ~ RLO1729^💬 01:50, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@RLO1729: Thanks for the work you've put into sprucing up the page. You're absolutely right about the coat of arms. Let's definitely use the 1846 cover page somewhere. I like your suggestion of using a modern cover in the infobox and the historical one in the article. Richard Nevell (talk) 10:35, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome Richard. Do you have access to a modern cover page image to upload? There are some on the journal webpage but I'm not sure about copyright. ~ RLO1729^💬 10:49, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I expect all of them will be under copyright, but we could use one under fair use. That's what has been done at Medieval Archaeology (journal). Richard Nevell (talk) 11:33, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm new at this but reading through the Fair use criteria I'm not sure it would meet the "Can this non-free content be replaced by a free version that has the same effect?" test because we have the vol 1 page. (It could be argued we only want the modern version because it's more colourful.) Unless you disagree, I think the only way to use a modern image would be to obtain Creative Commons permission from the journal. Thoughts? ~ RLO1729^💬 11:58, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think you're right, fair use is a thorny area and one I will probably never fully master. I've been in touch with the editor of the journal in the past, and while they're very helpful I'm not sure getting a CC version of the cover will be possible as the main issue is the image used on the front. We might have to make do with the page from volume 1 for now. Richard Nevell (talk) 14:00, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm no expert either, but I don't think the "fair use" issue is as much of an obstacle as you both suppose. Articles on other periodicals (and I'm thinking here more of popular magazines than scholarly journals) appear to get away with a relatively recent cover image, at very low-res, on the grounds that it is non-free, but is "used for purposes of illustration in an educational article about the entity represented by the image" and "used as the primary means of visual identification of this article topic". See e.g. Private Eye, Radio Times, Hello! (magazine). GrindtXX (talk) 15:42, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I moved the 1846 title page to the infobox. A modern title page can be inserted if it becomes available. Also added a gallery of 19th century journal images available on Commons. Let me know if it works or not, happy to revise/remove as needed. ~ RLO1729^💬

PS: Any thoughts on the motto? Do you know if the Association has given its interpretation? ~ RLO1729^💬 02:59, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Scope section[edit]

The Scope section currently has few supporting citations. One solution would be to illustrate each of the claims made about article types etc with examples from the journal. I will work on this over time but other editors are of course very welcome to contribute. Thanks. ~ RLO1729^💬 05:07, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]