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To ChrisO, Why do you change my disambiguation page. The term "Arabian Gulf" has been used for 2 meanings. Why do you insist in ignoring one of its meaning? --212.238.143.99 12:23, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

It looks like this page is edit locked. So, I'll suggest here that the second entry, about "Arabian Gulf" being a contested term for "Persion Gulf" should include a link to the Dispute over the name of the Persian Gulf article. --66.81.77.97 07:55, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

      • persian gulf is persian gulf and it will be***

—Preceding unsigned comment added by AmirHS20020 (talk • contribs) 02:20, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Arab Gulf is NOT the Arabian Gulf

Arab Gulf is a Gulf in Egypt west of Alexandria. funny how some members are paranoid about the persian gulf till they denied the existance of any other names of it, yet they went on ignoring any gulf which has the a r a b letters in it !. dont worry Arab Gulf is in egypt and has nothing to do with iran.

the persian gulf is called arabian gulf in english and alkhaleej alarabi in arabic, while arab gulf is called khaleej al arab in arabic

so linking Arab gulf to here is confusing and need to be corrected thanks. Ioj 15:20, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

follow the links on united nation web site and u will see if it is persian gulf or arabian(haha) gulf! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.98.89.89 (talk • contribs) 2007-10-10T08:17:26

What some naive Arabs incorrectly call Arabian Gulf, is in fact The Persian Gulf. They know it, and the whole world knows it. There is no argument what this body of water is called. Incorrectly calling The Persian Gulf by another name is nothing but wishful thinking for some naive and illiterate people.

Persian Gulf for ever! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.245.98.141 (talk • contribs) 2007-11-11T06:56:17

Persian Gulf will be remained Persian Gulf for ever

The Persian Gulf

arabian gulf does not exist in any part of the World.Please try Persian Gulf

This Article is written and gathered by Pejman Azadi

http://pejman.azadi.googlepages.com/thepersiangulf&itsname

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.217.41.64 (talk • contribs) 2006-07-18T15:19:43

There is actually an Arab Gulf

There is actually an Arab Gulf coming out of the Nile. So I will take the Arab Gulf out of this article.Khosrow II 15:02, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ha ha ha there is no body of water called Arab Gulf. It never existed and it will never exist. that body of water is called PERSIAN GULF. Open your eyes my friend. User:kaaveh 15:20, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

there is an arab gulf. its located where the nile meets the mediterranean sea. hes not talking about the persian gulf, calm down.Khosrow II 15:42, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please also note that the Arabian Gulf is not the larger Arabian Sea. I reccomend that it be stated in this article (when it is able to be edited) that the Arabian Gulf not be confused with the Arabian Sea or the Arab Gulf —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.64.201.157 (talk • contribs) 2007-01-02T01:50:34

"From Greek maps to Bible Old testament it was always persian gulf,though you know before these period of 1400 years Arabs were nobody to be mentionable,they were nobody who can have a gulf on their names,It was ,it's been and WILL BE "PERSIAN GULF" forever in the name of pure Blooded Persians(Aryans),recommendation:For those who are doubtfull:Go and read some history Books(today even some Arabs are literate and can read.)" :A.J —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.99.193.143 (talk • contribs) 2007-01-11T18:33:01

"ARABIAN GULF" is a suitable name. Because most of its coast as well as ilands are inhabitted by Arabs. (Hasan Gilani) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.235.103.27 (talk) 01:04, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is there someone to ask arabians what's the difficulty with "PERSIAN GOLF"? Or i just have to answer? They have not any pride history. all this nations were under IRAN domestic Power.

PERSIAN GOLF is registered not only in international library resources and agencies but also in iranians heart.i call "arabian golf" an untruth name that is made by Israel terrorists to SCHISM between moslems. but what bad that arabians dont undrestand this GAFF.they have proved are so crazy and CREDULOUS. written by SADEQ "[email protected]" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.165.0.193 (talk) 22:11, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Persians Racism in wikipedia

Im new in editing wikipedia.

i think wikipedia have some Persians Racist admins, they keep changing historical facts about Arabic area and anything links to Iran and impose their fairy tales.

1) Iran is not Persia. 2) most Persians are not real Persians Ex. Kuomini claim he is from Propht Muhammed descendant, so this mean most Iran rulers with the Black color Turban are Arabs! 3) "want to be" Persians are less than 20% of Iran population. 4) The shah was a fascist, he changed the name of most cities in iran from Arabic or Islamic names to Old Persian names, Arabic none islamic names are forbidden to use even the Islamic names like Omar, Othman and alot other are forbidden.

God welling i'll show the Persian racism in wikipedia to most popular Arabic internet shows, Tv, Magazine, and media.

Then either wikipedia stop these Admins or add the others view and historical facts or creat 2 versions of a topic.

just read the [WikiProject Iran] and you will notice many silly mistakes that these Nazis Persian admins do not allow you to fix them, Ex. :

"Iranian languages: Balochi • Kurdish • Ossetic • Pashto • Persian • Talysh • Tat • Zazaki"

where is the Arabic?! why they don't let anyone to add Arabic! Arabic is tought in all schools in Iran but still they don't allow you to add Arabic language to that sentence!

and what is persian language?! there is no such thing!

"The geographical spread of Persian: Afghanistan • Australia • Canada • Iran • New Zealand • Sweden • Tajikistan • USA"

Persian is not even a race so how they spread?! ....... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.229.242.86 (talk • contribs) 2006-11-06T10:28:43

I just like how Arabian Gulf sounds, it reminds me of Alladin and the 40 thieves. Persian Gulf reminds me of a Persian rug or cat. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.254.120.180 (talk • contribs) 2006-11-14T12:09:29

"I just like how Arabian Gulf sounds, it reminds me of Alladin and the 40 thieves. Persian Gulf reminds me of a Persian rug or cat."
Okay, you can start your own Racistpedia then. Meanwhile, we are trying to make a neutral encyclopedia here. Ashibaka tock 16:06, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What?

What are you talking about? You're the racist one obviously, as your comments are the racist themselves —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.2.198.2 (talk • contribs) 2006-12-08T13:06:25

Take it easy

Let's take it easy people, nobody is going to be stealing a huge body of water from anyone. :) Baristarim 18:38, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Persian Gulf Has been always Persian Gulf in the whole history.

All the people in the world even arabs know that the southern sea of the great land of Persia (IRAN) is Named and known by Persian Gulf. It's all because of western policies to stimulate arab people to think that Persian Gulf is arabian gulf. They are in a huge mistake. Because no one can change or deny history.Hamidreza tk --Hmrtk 17:50, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

we NEVER let another countries to change persian gulf to arabian gulf that name is fake and in any history books we cant see arabian gulf Reza S.Haghighi 8:18:30 26 March 2007(UTC)

PERSIAN GULF IS PERSIAN GULF

we never should anyone to change persian gulf to arabian gulf.in all of history books we can see that name of that gulf is persian gulf and iranians never let anyone to change that name.Goldenkalagh 08:30, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Arabian Gulf & Arabian Sea

The one who said "nowdays arabs are literate & can read" get your facts right youe impicile, BECAUSE you all in iran use arabic letters & half of your language if not more is based on Arabic language, we taught you to become humanbeings & stop marrying your daughters & sisters & worship fire even though some of you still do it nowdays. & if you hate the word Arabic so much stop learning arabic in your schools. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.6.158.61 (talk • contribs) 2007-04-04T17:44:44

It is the Arabian Gulf by logic & common sense

Just by common sense it is easy to realize that it is The Arabian Gulf & nothing else.

How many arabic countries are facing the Arabian Gulf?? several while only one Iran trying to force it being Persian gulf.

How come the Sea is called Arabian Sea while the gulf/its continuation joining it is called Persian gulf..... it is Arabian Gulf by 300 million arabs & many other countries in the world. Thats quite logical. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.6.158.61 (talk • contribs) 2007-04-05T17:53:53

incorrect information

Please correct the information here because it is definitely wrong....The Arabian Gulf was called as Arabian Gulf long before Gamal Abed El-Nasser, all the arabs call it as The Arabian Gulf because throughout history it has been called like this...simply you can take a look at books written long before Gamal Abed El-Nasser was even born & they say Arabian Gulf so how come you claim he changed it if generations before him used the same term....

If you don't correct this fact at least that arabs always used to call it as Arabian Gulf before Gamal then it would be obvious that you're hiding facts & this is not the purpose of Wikipedia.... isn't?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 193.6.158.61 (talk) 18:15, 5 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Name

We don't have any arabian gulf . It is persian gulf in south of Iran .the arabian gulf is a wrong name for that area.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.240.206.231 (talk • contribs) 2008-03-08T22:50:19

The article says that the term is controversial. One of Wikipedia's core policies is always adhering to a neutral point of view. J.delanoygabsadds 23:02, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Its real Name is Persian Gulf. Arabian Gulf is a fake name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdolvand (talk • contribs) 2008-03-09T12:34:39

Iranians are empiring on the persiaon gulf from 3000 years ago and in the whole history there is named as 'PERSIAN GULF' so arabian gulf is a APOCRYPHAL name that Arabs have made because of political reaons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by R rezaei (talk • contribs) 2008-03-14T03:17:39

the a r a b i a n gulf name is a fake name for pesian gulf. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.62.138.106 (talk) 22:53, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

persian gulf is the internationally recognized name for the gulf south of iran —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.219.56.66 (talk • contribs) 2008-03-23T06:53:12

Search again using Persian Gulf

We don't have any arabian gulf, this name is a counterfeit recently proposed by an English politician to be used as a political weapon Iran. After that, Abd-ol-Naser utilized this name as a pan-arabism slogan to justify himself between arab nations. It is Persian Gulf in south of Iran. The arabian gulf is a wrong name for that area. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mehdi.ebadi (talk • contribs) 2008-04-04T07:26:17

It all started back in 1928 when England (the DAMN Island) pushed then teh King of Iraq to call this body of water by the WRONG name causing conflict so they would stick around. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.176.41.2 (talk • contribs) 2008-04-10T12:19:41

that's wrong!

Arabian gulf does not exist. The right name is persian gulf & it belongs to Iranian people & there is no right for changing this name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.154.52.92 (talk • contribs) 2008-04-10T12:20:32

You freaken Fruit cake. Obviously you lack the proper education to know the correct name of the gulf and hence you're talking out of your scorned behind. Stick your head in your underwear where it belongs you jackass. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.6.232.6 (talk) 05:22, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You Idiot, The UN has already stated that it is called the PERSIAN GULF: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Pg1016.jpg I don't even know why we're arguing about this. It's like saying that Iraq and Iran are the same country.. some uneducated fool may believe this, but it doesn't make it true. You keep telling yourself what you want to believe. At the end of the day, it's still going to be called the PERSIAN GULF. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gloriasep (talk • contribs) 2008-04-11T05:46:08

The Gulf You Are Looking For Does Not Exist. Try Persian Gulf. The gulf you are looking for is unavailable. No body of water by that name has ever existed. The correct name is Persian Gulf, which always has been, and will always remain, Persian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WallpaperDesktop (talk • contribs) 19:25, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am asking kindly of this encyclopedia to delete this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WallpaperDesktop (talk • contribs) 2008-04-12T19:29:17

I am sorry for our arabs brothers but you donot have any gulf in the world you was snoozing when any see or gulf was named please wait while other chance that you may have at other glasical time and then you may can have a gulf for yourseves Remember Persian Gulf is correct no arabian gulf exist around the world Sorry for arabs without any gulf Persian Golf not Arabian golf ERROR in Gulf Name —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.165.50.151 (talk) 21:45, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

sign the petition to Google: petitiononline.com/sos02082/petition-sign.html

The Gulf You Are Looking For Does Not Exist. Try Persian Gulf.

The gulf you are looking for is unavailable. No body of water by that name has ever existed. The correct name is Persian Gulf, which always has been, and will always remain, Persian.

Please try the following:

Click the button, and never try again.

If you typed Arabian Gulf, make sure you read some history books.

Click Search to look for more information on the internet.

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http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=t&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLJ,GGLJ:2008-14,GGLJ:en&q=arabian+gulf —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.165.47.146 (talk) 20:48, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

it's Arabian gulf.A term used by 200 million arabs. Many evidences support this claim. It's Arabian, so Persians stick your heads up your asses and live with it. ARABIAN GULF —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.9.243.111 (talk • contribs) 2008-04-16T18:45:07

LOOK... a rose is still a rose,even if you stop calling it that! it has always BEEN, IS, and WILL BE called the "PERSIAN GULF"

you arabs should get a life because you STILL wont have an IDENTITY nor a HISTORY by making FAKE names....

and you know what? no one gives a shit what 200m arabs call something,because the 200m arabs are wrong!

if you guys suddenley decide to call Los Angeles an arab state from tomorrow just because your STUPID it still wont make any difference there and it certainly wont buy you any RESPECT... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.15.10.233 (talk • contribs) 2008-04-17T07:46:11

proposed text

i hope that you will be able to check my adding on this page, also i will try to send some more in the few days when i could. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lebanese heart (talk • contribs) 2008-04-18T23:41:04

The controversy over the name of the Arabian Gulf / Persian Gulf

The Arabian Gulf is the accredited name in the Arabian countries and some other countries as well, but the accredited name in Turkey and the Ottoman Empire documents Basra Körfezi, means "Gulf of Basra". This place is the water which lies to the east of the Arabian Peninsula and to the west of Iran, it known by different names throughout the history. The total length of the Gulf coast about 3300 Kilo Meter, the share of Iran has about one third ONLY, but the rest of the gulf owned by Arab Countries. The Arabs lived in the both sides of the gulf, in the western section we find (Oman, UAE, Bahrain, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Iraq), but in the eastern side we find Ahvaz and Linga that actually called Arabstan Region by Iranian themselves, because the people who lives there are Arabs, Arabstan Region has been colonized by Iran long time ago, people of that region admitted that too.


some of the current and old names

  • The Arabian Gulf is the approved name in the Arabic language, and in term of use in all of the Arab League countries, also used in another several languages as well, plus it is used by the United Nations in Arabic documentation and the Arabian geographic societies.

“Note”: Arabic language is one of the six used languages in the United Nation.

  • The Persian Gulf is used in Iran (in Iranian newspapers and media that used by Arabic speakers of Iran). It used widely in other languages as well.
  • The Gulf of Basra is the name that was common in the documents belonging to the Ottoman Empire, and it’s still used on a small scale in some foreign countries also some Arab countries too, especially Iraq (but the official name is the Arabian Gulf).
  • The Gulf of Qatief it’s used in some countries too, this name is actually of one of Saudi Arabia cities that consider one of the Arabian Shiite cities.
  • The Gulf of Iraq
  • The Gulf of Oman
  • The Gulf of Bahrain
  • Islamic Gulf has been raised by some Islamic thinkers to Khomeini but he rejected that name.
  • The Gulf it’s used widely today in the geographical maps to avoid the Arab - Persian problem, which it’s not satisfied both of them.


stories of some names

  • The oldest known name is the name "Sea of God" until the third millennium BC, then it became called the "Sea of great sunrise" until the second millennium BC, then it named "Sea of Alkeldan" in the first millennium BC. Then it became called the "South Sea" during the second half of the first millennium BC.
  • The Assyrians, Babylon’s and Acadian called it "South Sea" or (lower sea), and it's opposite the upper sea what it calls today The Mediterranean Sea. It also called by the Assyrian "sea Mur" (bitter sea)

The Persian called it "Persian Sea". It was known in the first place by the Persian King Darius (831-486 BC) in his speech "on the sea which links between Egypt and Persia." And it is seems that Alexander the Great was the first for such designation fired after journey, prince of sea Niarchos in 326 BC. He came back from India then when he was by the coast to the Arabia, he did not know the Arab side of the Gulf, and that what made the Alexander to call it by that name, and remained via inheritance, Through Greece leaked the name for West and it was used by some of the Arabs as well.

  • The Romans called it the "Arabian Gulf" and one of those who launched name is Pliny the Younger in the first century AD, Pliny said Khorramshahr is a town located in the far side of the Arabian Gulf, where the start of the most prominent Arabia, which is built on an artificial high and The Tigris River on the right side as the River Aulaus to the left The area on which it is based - which is three miles in length-lies between those two rivers and nearby converged. Established at the outset the Great Alexander, and ordered that it be called Alexandria, However, the flooding of the rivers destroyed. Antioukhos rebuilt it and called it by his name, and Since they demolished for the second time, Pasines built it again and resided on the banks of rivers, dams respond water and called it by his name, The length of this dam three miles and presented a slightly lower but at The first time it was more than 1 mile, also it has its own port over there.
  • The Arabs called it "Gulf of Basra" or "Gulf of Oman", "Gulf of Bahrain" or "Gulf of Qatif" because these three cities was taken to allow vessels and giant controlled waters also the name of "Sea of Basra" refers to the Islamic conquest in the era of Omar bin al-Khattab. We find that the first Grammarians such as "Alkhlil Ben Ahmed Alfarahidy" used it, and the Geographers such as "Yaqout Alhamauy" and historians such as "Khalifa bin Khayyat" and religious scholars such as Ibn Taymiyya. Although the name "Sea of Persia" commonplace in the Islamic era, especially among Muslim Persians and Some of them even use both names in the same page some Arabs called it "Iraq Gulf" during the "Abbasid succession", but Dr. Emad Hafiz said that "The name of the Arabian Gulf has been known before the Islam and continued after the Islam to the population of the Arabian peninsula and its environs".
  • The Turkish called it "Gulf of Basra" during the Ottoman Empire that covered most of Arabian countries at that time, even today in Turkey it’s called the same.


The dispute over name

’’’Scientific Dispute’’’ Some western researcher started to abandon the name Persian Gulf, Among those

  • The English Roderick Owen, who visited the Arabian Gulf and issued a book on 1957 that called "bubble-Gold documents Arabian Gulf", he said that when he visited the Arabian Gulf and he though it’s the Persian Gulf because he didn’t see any other name in the geographical maps except this one. When Roderick Owen was close to the area of the gulf he said the most correct name "Arabian Gulf" because most of the population on both coastline are Arabs either the Arabian countries or the Iranian side (Arabstan). He said: «The facts and fairness require calling it Arabian Gulf».
  • The French writer “Jean-Jacques Berrebi” said it’s Arabian Gulf, in the book he wrote it about the events of the region and the strategic importance, says: «the section that passes by Karun River from Ahvaz Region with the bottom section of Mesopotamia the geographic and economic unit.

Actually Ahvaz region is part of Fertile Crescent, which begins when the Palestinian plains and ends when it passes by Lebanon, Syria, Iraq».

  • The Historian Carsten Niebuhr from Denmark, which came to the Arabian Peninsula in 1762, says: «I can’t pass by this region and keep silent similar to others, about the most important colonies, which despite being organized outside the boundaries of the Arabian Peninsula, in fact it’s closest to it (Arabian peninsula), I mean the Arab residents of the southern coast of Persia, they are often allied with the Senate neighboring countries, also the different circumstances to indicate that the Arab tribes settled in the Gulf before the Islamic conquests, moreover it has always maintained its independence, It is ridiculous that portray Geographers a part of the Arabian lands under the control of Persian Kings, while those kings were never able to be the masters of the sea coast in their own country, Persians was reluctant to keep this coast belong to the Arabs».
  • The French Jean-Pierre a professor of National Institute for Eastern Languages and Civilizations also wrote in Paris in January 1990 a study in the French Magazine Allomond about the gulf and a nomination of the Arabian Gulf name, then the Iranian embassy protest, and they wrote stuff against him, also Pierre response to them but he was supported by scientific arguments, also he show a maps for Oconnor لوكانورthat comes from the end of the 16th century that using the Latin name “Sein Arabique” means (Arabian Gulf), he said : "I have found more than a map and Document at the National Library in Paris proves conclusively the name of the Arabian Gulf, all opposed the viewpoint of Iran."

The writer confirms his point of view about Johen Speight جوهين سبيد map’s that published in 1956 under the name of the Turkish Empire as indicated in the map designation "Bahr Al Qatif," then Arabian Gulf. Jean-Pierre refute all Iranians fabrication, he also confirms that the name "Persian Gulf" common among newly coordinates Europeans especially Italy, came as a result of the Persian Empire achievements while colonizing and being more strong and bigger, but the Arabism of the Gulf have been mentioned in the writings of the Roman historian Bilby during the first century. المؤرخ الروماني بيلبي

  • The Researcher Dr. Ibrahim Khalaf al-Ubaydi says: " The modern scientific studies confirm that the name of the Persian Gulf doesn't have any link to reality, because it's Arabian since prehistoric, even if Iranian controlled the gulf in a limited period, that is not an evidence to say it is a Persian, Moreover, the Arab tribes are living in both sides of the Gulf since antiquity, the tribes still living in the east coast that occupied by Iran until today, in spite of Iranian policy to Convert this people to the Persian identity to obliterate their national identity"

That is why many of atlases and European geographical references (such as Guinness Aoniffersales Hachette and most European encyclopedic), since of the second half of the 20th century began, they started to use the historical-geographical balanced expression «Arab-Persian Gulf», also The «National Geographic Society» that publishes «National Geographic Magazine» “which is the main reference of geography in the United States”, to develop the name of the Arabian Gulf under the name of the Persian Gulf, on the other hand some of the western Universities and organizations preferred to use the term (The Gulf) without mention of the word Arabian or Persian, Such as, Times Atlas of the World and also the Louvre museum.

’’’Political dispute’’’ The French writer Michel Foucher has a point of view on the name of the gulf as well, if you take a look at his book “boundaries and borders” what is called in French (Fronts et Frontieres), that the gulf has became the Persian Gulf because of the strong & historical influence of Iran, specially during (time of the Shah) when he found the support from the American strategy that based on supporting him and his army to achieve regional security in the protection of oil, This is confirmed by Nabil Khalifa, a Lebanese writer on strategic affairs, in Dar Al-Hayat newspaper (14/08/05) : «the dispute between Arabs and Iranians simply not on the names, But it is reflects a political conflict and national dimensions and contents of a strategy, the summary is “who have the domination of the Gulf”, the waters, islands, oil, the strategic position, and it wealth».

’’’Viewpoint of Iran’’’ Iran believes that it has the right to control the rest of the Arabian Gulf, and considers its western shores they were colonies belonging to the Kingdom of Persia before Islam, as it considers the "Persian Gulf" is the only name that called for that Gulf, and denies the existence of any other name. when the National Geographic Society announced for writing the name Arabian Gulf beside Persian Gulf, in it new Atlas, also pointed to the dispute over the three islands between Iran and the United Arab Emirates and considered «The Lesser Tunb and Greater Tunb and Abu Musa occupied by Iran and the United Arab demands for sovereignty», the Persians became mad, then they Indictment the “National Geographic Society” receive of bribes, As well as accusing it of «influence of the Zionist lobby and the oil dollars of certain Arab governments decided to distort historical facts are undeniable» but in fact Israel used the term "Persian Gulf", Iranian officials said that «Zionist plot to separate the ranks of Muslims», whereupon the Iranian government to take action to prevent the National Assembly of Geography from the sale of publications and maps in Iran, As prevent any representative person to enter Iranian territory, also the minister of the Iranian Parliament Haddad Adel called the people in the country to defend Persian Gulf, also He gathered the Iranian opposition with their Various classes on the Persian Gulf, on the other hand the National Assembly of Geography tried to explain the reasons for adding the term "Arabian Gulf" to the Persian Gulf, That there are known marine arm Arabian Gulf, We must differentiate between them and the Arabian Sea that located between the Strait of Hormuz and the Indian Ocean, But the Iranians are not prepared to listen to any justification because the name of the Persian Gulf «become an integral part of national identity Iranian», On June 15, 2006, Iran Prevent The Economist magazine from entering the country simply because they use the term “The Gulf” without mentioning the Persians.

’’’Viewpoint of Arabs’’’region The Arabs believed that the name "Arabian Gulf" historical and old, also two third of the gulf coast are owned by Arab countries while Iran possesses only about one third, Even that third of the coast of Iran is still inhabited by Arab tribes (even though many of them expelled from their lands after the Iranian invasion), whether in the north (Ahvaz Region) or south (to the east coast of Bandar Abbas, while it was under control of Qawasim State until Iran occupied it.

reasons of the dispute

  • Many observers questioned the impartiality of the name "Persian Gulf". Where they see that the dispute over the name reflects the conflict politically and nationally is the dimensions and contents of the strategy. Therefore, Iran strongly rejects any other terms, including more neutral name: "Gulf" (The Gulf) without mentioning the word Arab or Persian. Even went so far as to prevent the magazine The Economist from entering Iran simply because they included a map of the neutral name. As well as popular calls to boycott British Airways due to use it.


  • That the name Persian Gulf drawing in United Nations documents in English, meant to prevent any other organization to use the name Arabian Gulf. This is also true for other languages evidence that the United Nations itself used the term Arabian Gulf in their Arabic. It is known that the Arabic language is one of the six official languages of the United Nations
  • Peoples used many different names to describe the Gulf, from the age of the Sumerians and Babylonians to the present time. Designation and return to the era of Arab Gulf Greece and the Romans before Saddam much.


  • Gulf Arab custom of sometimes timeworn behalf Alarthre Erythraean Sea, which is a word derived from Erythros which means "red" in Greek [32]. The termed Straspon (64 s. M - 19 m) the Red Sea, and in other times was also designated by the Gulf Arab states. In an interview from the town of Maysan (ie Muhammarah) stating, "It falls on the city and ultimately maximum of the Persian Gulf." The change refers to the place in which the term "sea Alarthre" gradually, says Guinness Colombia from the sea Alarthre (Cross): "Without a source of the name is clear. Used in the old reference to the Indian Ocean, and then later of the Persian Gulf, and finally to the Red Sea" [33]. According to many sources, this term (sea Alarthre) had used of the Greek Hurdotos to refer to the Red Sea (current) and the Arab Gulf and the Indian Ocean together, as any Red Sea and the Arabian Gulf with the Indian Ocean online [34]. However, after expansion of the Greek military leadership of Alexander the Great, returned sending Nyarkos s in 326. M. India fleet of Coast to the Persian did not recognize the Arab side of the Gulf, which called Alexander to be called Gulf name of the Persian Gulf. Historians Greece rejoiced residents in Egypt to adopt the name of the Egyptian Red Sea (Sea Kulzm) and the Arabian Gulf. This transition has been gradual and not complete. Where the remains of Roman BLANEY used the term Arabian Gulf to describe Khuzestani city near the mouth of the River Tigris. As well as maps of European stayed Bay sometimes refer to the Persian Gulf and the Gulf Arab sometimes. Insisting that the Gulf Arab refers to the Red Sea without other current, which is the sign of the confusion could not understand the words of the first.

see also

The Arab Gulf is NOT the Arabian Gulf

I am reviving a previous subject (DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE PERSIAN GULF NAMING DISPUTE HERE):

  • Arab Gulf is a Gulf in Egypt west of Alexanderia.
  • its located where the nile meets the mediterranean sea.
  • That means that the redirect for Arab Gulf is false.
  • Please also note that the Arabian Gulf is not the larger Arabian Sea. I reccomend that it be stated in this article (when it is able to be edited) that the Arabian Gulf not be confused with the Arabian Sea or the Arab Gulf

Please note that the above bullets are quotes from different users in the old thread. Reffer to the history for their identities. The last bullet was mine.

That means that the redirect for Arab Gulf is false.

I will copy the above onto the article for Arab Gulf.

Please respond below: —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.102.210.163 (talk) 00:20, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

THERE IS NO arabian GULF. YOU SHOULD CALL IT PERSIAN GULF. THIS IS THE FIRST AND LAST NAME OF THE GULF. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FaSHiST (talk • contribs) 2008-04-23T16:27:14

Arabin gulf isn't true. if you want to find complete information change your keyword to PERSIAN GULF. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Falsafioon (talk • contribs) 2008-04-30T08:39:55

Those that (seem to) insist on the redirect are:

Please contact these.--208.102.210.163 (talk) 01:01, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All Persian people refer the name of mentioned gulf to the history documents as of 2500 years ago, I wonder who were the real inhabitants of around this gulf before 2500 years ago which Cyrus destroyed their civilisations...!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.241.38.57 (talk) 15:20, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Persian Gulf only!

arabian gulf doesn not exist, please remove the fake map inserted in your lecture!

all history experts of famous universities know that in history we didn't have any gulf with arabian name in this area. arabian gulf is located in egypt west of alexanderia and also red sea.

Persian Gulf is the only name for this Gulf.

Persan Gulf forever!87.247.189.210 (talk) 06:30, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

what you mean about this page? persian gulf isnt a new name or something just created by anger or politics... you cant change names by unreasonable issues,why all these happend?maybe arabian countries dont like persian people,names or history but its childish to do what they did to changing the name of persian gulf which would be ever persian like all those historical,documented,real source in this world...

persian gulf indicates a sign of huge history ,background of those years that no one can take it from history ....

so just try to save trustworthy like before my wikipedia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.47.246.132 (talk • contribs) 2009-04-30T21:33:15

Persian Gulf

Arabian Gulf is incorrect Name , this plce correct name is Persian Gulf —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.241.11.209 (talk) 11:55, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Arabian Gulf" or "Gulf" does not exist in any part of the World.

Arabian Gulf !!!"

where is Arabian Gulf !?!

"Arabian Gulf" or "Gulf" does not exist in any part of the World. "Persian Gulf" is an appropriate name for a gulf located in south of Iran, in Middle East. Iranian Culture is an ancient and historical one and nobody can deny it. Considering Iranian Culture as ancient and historical culture is undeniable. So, never do replace the name of "Persian Gulf" or "Pars Sea" with a new and improper title like "Arabian Gulf". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.241.11.209 (talk) 12:10, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We haven't any arabian gulf in the world. The gulf in north of Arab countries is Persian Gulf. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Majid.nasirinejad (talk • contribs) 08:39, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

'ARABIAM GULF is the fake name for PERSIAN GULF which is used by Arabs and is completely wrong .according to ancient documents (maps,books,etc)this gulf has always been called Persian gulf. ''''''' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.126.18.3 (talk) 14:23, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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