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Khalidi-errata[edit]

On Khalidi, 1992, p. 43, he writes that : [Guérin 1874:49] is for this place. That cannot be; that is for the Jericho area. I think it was a printing error for [Guérin 1875:49]...except that is for Saffa, Ramallah, and not this place.....Huldra (talk) 20:58, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Huldra: The Guèrin map at NLI does not have this. The nearest locations shown on the map are Tell Abou-Feradj and Tell el-Meleikeh. Incidentally, for a month or so the maps at NLI did not work for me in Safari on Mac. However they still work in Firefox. Zero^talk 00:16, 21 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Zero0000: yeah, the SWP map 9 does´t have anything either...(only Tell Abu Faraj) and and it usually have the places mentioned in Guerin. I can see the NLI maps fine (Safari 9.1.3 on Mac) ...special Safari version which does not work?

Also, the Guerin-map has "Saffa" in the place of Saffa, Ramallah...so basically: a Khalidi-fail. (Heh; I guess Epson Salts would have argued that Khalidi is a WP:RS, so therefore the Guerin-ref should stay.... </sarcasm>) Huldra (talk) 20:20, 21 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Huldra: I'm using Safari 10.0. It was probably an "upgrade" that caused the problem. Incidentally, Arab al-Safa doesn't appear on mandate-era maps as a village either, though the tribe located there is shown. I think this is a normal pattern in which bedouin encampments are not counted as villages even when they were large and long-established. Because of this, their absence from older maps proves little either way. Zero^talk 21:58, 21 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Zero0000: Ok, I won´t be in a hurry to update Safari, then. And yeah, most of the Baysan district is a bit tricky to expand history-wise. I´m still waiting for that bedouin-history book.....Huldra (talk) 22:09, 21 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]