Talk:Antimetabole

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I just came across this one on the Cycling in Chicago article: Carter H. Harrison, Jr., a Chicago mayoral candidate presented himself as "Not the Champion Cyclist; But the Cyclists' Champion." It's not mentioned on his page, however, and I haven't verified it. --bmtm (talk) 16:28, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

How about a mention of the They Might Be Giants song, "I Palindrome I", which, in addition to the title includes the this line:

"Son, I am able,' she said, 'though you scare me.'Watch,' said I

Beloved,' I said, 'watch me scare you, though.' Said she, 'Able am I, Son." Diddydoobop 07:29, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead, that sounds like it works. I love They Might be Giants =]

" "In America, you can always find a party. In Russia, the party finds you!" Yakov Smirnoff "

Does this work as one? It seems parallel, not ABBA word order, but it's on the page and I didn't want to delete without making sure I wasn't missing something... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.252.228.21 (talk) 23:45, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think it works, the pattern is "you can always find a party" versus "the party finds you". Probably have enough examples already.

Is this the same thing as Epanalepsis? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.170.80.217 (talk) 23:30, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What about the antimetaboles in the classic Alice In Wonderland? Maybe an example of that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.5.102.202 (talk) 04:09, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nietzsche: "...if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."drone5 (talk) 17:51, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Metabole[edit]

Why don't we have an article on metabole? Badagnani (talk) 06:22, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reference for Antimetabole distinction from Chiasmus?[edit]

Where in the history of these terms is the distinction that a chiasmus does not repeat words? Apparently, someone simply made this up. I'll edit the pages accordingly when I get time. (Unless, of course, someone provides a GOOD reference for this peculiar idea.) Nehmo (talk) 07:43, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, Nehmo. Both Bing and Google (both with Oxford as source), specifically cite an example with repeated words. Antimetabole is a specific instance of chiasmus, but the more general term should not have the exclusion of repeated words. Gilsinan (talk) 04:00, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Prostitutes and solicitors[edit]

I really did see this scrawled on a toilet wall.

  • Is it better to be solicited by a prostitute, or prostituted by a solicitor?
  • (in another hand) It makes no difference - they're both cunts for hire. -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 17:50, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Seneca[edit]

The quote from Seneca is not antimetabole, but its translation is. The Latin version should be removed and the English retained. 24.190.51.21 (talk) 17:39, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Derivations[edit]

So, it caught my eye that two of our examples are citing sources who were re-using existing material.

1. President Biden's Inaugural Address is cited for the "example of our power" quote is just re-using a line of Bill Clinton's from years prior: https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94045962

2. The Malcolm X line is re-purposing a line from the hit Cole Porter song Anything Goes, which, if Genius.com is to be believed, is recycling an existing joke from a Puritan magazine: https://genius.com/2879570

Should we amend these citations to point towards their origins? -- 07:18, 4 April 2021 96.244.45.52