Talk:Anti-Hungarian sentiment/Archive 1

This archive contains discussion from November 2009 to May 2011.

Rename

Antimagyarism is not used too often, also it may not be clear for English speakers. Qorilla (talk) 20:09, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Magyar is a very common term in English for the Hungarian language or Hungarians.--189.33.2.165 (talk) 11:56, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Magyar is used sometimes, but the word "antimagyarism" is not. Qorilla (talk) 11:58, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough, but if English-speakers understand 'Magyar' they would understand 'antimagyarism'. I am not saying term itself is common or even used at all.--189.33.2.165 (talk) 23:10, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Most English speakers can't even pronounce "Magyar", I personally have never heard the word antimagyarism ONCE. 97.118.63.76 (talk) 02:54, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

References do not support the existence of a form of anti-Hungarian prejudice. For further reading it is indicated a Hungarian library. The existence of such a form of prejudice should be checked for references in academic journals. As it is now, the article seems to be part of a Hungarian agenda. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.80.17.53 (talk) 03:13, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Page deletion

This article should be deleted. It contains biased information and it serves only as Hungarian chauvinistic propaganda. --maxval (talk) 12:37, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

I dont know how to use properly the deletion tag, plz help. --maxval (talk) 19:42, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Please, read WP:AFD.--Yopie (talk) 20:29, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

It looks like a decision was made to delete this page in 2007 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anti-Hungarian sentiment. Why is it still with us? maxval is now trying to get the page deleted with WP:PROD. That doesn't sound quite right to me but the fact that page still exists does not sound right either. I don't know what's going on here but I don't think I'm going to wade any deeper into it. Despite reverting my changes, I don't think that you'll get very far with WP:PROD. You probably need to take this to Wikipedia:Deletion review --Kvng (talk) 21:11, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

OK. Thank you. --maxval (talk) 06:03, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Sources

The current article is just a bunch of random newspaper quotes, it should be rewritten from scratch. Before realizing I won't have the time to do so, I collected a few reliable sources about anti-Hungarian sentiments in the post-communist Slovakia, Romania and Serbia; maybe someone else can make use of them.

• Assessments from University of Maryland "Minorities at Risk" project
  • Hungarians in Slovakia
  • Hungarians in Romania
  • Hungarians in Serbia
• Katherine Verdery: Nationalism and National Sentiment in Post-socialist Romania, Slavic Review, Vol. 52, No. 2 (Summer, 1993), pp. 179-203 (needs JSTOR access)
• Jeremy Stewart: Anti-Hungarian sentiment in the nationalist Romanian media: Revista Romania Mare as a study, East European Quarterly, Jan 2008
• Human Rights Watch World Report 1992 (this part)
• Library Of Congress Federal Research Division Country Studies, Romania (has a few words about the Romanian Cradle organizing the Ethnic clashes of Târgu Mureş)

(Many other sources can be found in the articles about Hungary–Slovakia, Hungary–Romania and Hungary–Serbia relations.)

--Tgr (talk) 13:27, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Article needs to be improved quite a bit

In addition to general cleanup, I would say that there needs to be more of a focus on three main issues:
1) In the nineteenth century, it was widely perceived that the Hungarian upper class or nobility collaborated with ethnic Germans to repress Slavic nationalisms within the Austro-Hungarian empire, and many Slavic nationalists hated Hungarians for that reason.
2) In the 20th century, there was antagonism over competing Hungarian nationalist and Romanian nationalist claims to Transylvania.
3) In the 21st century, the Slovakian government has made efforts to deny the language rights of ethnic Hungarians in Slovakia. -- AnonMoos (talk) 10:45, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

What is this article supposed to be about?

This article currently looks like a coatrack being used to expose politicians' anti-Hungarian statements, which seems quite inappropriate. Is there a single reliable source whose focal topic is "Anti-Hungarian sentiment"? Reading the message above this, if material can be found to cover all three of those points I get the feeling they'd be better off as separate articles, otherwise this article will always be a coatrack opening up the floodgates to insignificant media storms about Jan Slota et al. - filelakeshoe 20:34, 9 May 2011 (UTC)