Talk:Anthea Butler

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Anthea Butler article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography: Science and Academia

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by the science and academia work group.

Religion Low‑importance

	Religion portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Religion, a project to improve Wikipedia's articles on Religion-related subjects. Please participate by editing the article, and help us assess and improve articles to good and 1.0 standards, or visit the wikiproject page for more details.ReligionWikipedia:WikiProject ReligionTemplate:WikiProject ReligionReligion articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article has been marked as needing immediate attention.

United States: Texas Low‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	Texas portal This article is supported by WikiProject Texas.

Women writers Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Women writers, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of women writers on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Women writersWikipedia:WikiProject Women writersTemplate:WikiProject Women writersWomen writers articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

A fact from Anthea Butler appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 21 January 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that in her 2021 book White Evangelical Racism, professor of religion Anthea Butler called American evangelicalism a pro-Trump, "nationalistic political movement"?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2022/January. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Anthea Butler.

Wikipedia

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 00:40, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(

Comment or view
Article history

)

... that in her 2021 book White Evangelical Racism, professor of religion Anthea Butler called American Evangelicalism a pro-Trump, "nationalistic political movement"? Source: [1]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Lay Kay Kaw

Created by AFreshStart (talk). Self-nominated at 15:35, 20 December 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Interesting person and viewpoints, on good sources, no copyvio obvious. The hook is fine. Do we know when she was born where? If not that, when she studied? Any other info about her as a person? - In the lead, I don't think we need "Before becoming an educator". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:57, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Can't seem to find out much more information, sorry. Google snippets says 6 August 1956 for her birthday, but I can't find any reliable sources for that. This Daily Pennsylvanian source (mentioned in the article) just mentions that she is born and raised in Texas, [and] studied theology at Fuller Theological Seminary. Her CV (hosted at the Africana Studies at University of Pennsylvania) it mentions her education: Ph.D. Religion, Vanderbilt University, 2001 M.A. Religion, Vanderbilt University, 2000 // M.A. Theology, Fuller Theological Seminary, 1995 // B.A. Marketing, University of Houston At Clear Lake, 1983. Not sure how reliable CVs are for Wikipedia, but this discussion seems to think so, so I'll be bold and add this ASAP. —🎄☃️❄️ Season's greetings from AFreshStart (talk) ❄️☃️🎄 22:37, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

fine with me, thank you - I somehow thought she was much younger, perhaps just because the article is short ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:08, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment to @AFreshStart and Gerda Arendt: I'd suggest adding "rather than a religious group" to the hook, to add some wonk and quirk :D theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 23:31, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good to me! —AFreshStart (talk) 23:46, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You'd have to word an ALT, to make life easier for tje prep builder, but I prefer it as it is, to the point. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:28, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

added an ALT—my thing with the original is that animosity towards the religious right in the United States isn't known for its scarcity, so I kind of want to try and drive a wedge between this quote and your standard-issue tweet about american evangelicals. arguing that it's not a religious group at core is very different from just arguing that it has nationalistic tendencies. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 11:26, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that in her 2021 book White Evangelical Racism, professor of religion Anthea Butler called American Evangelicalism a pro-Trump "nationalistic political movement", rather than a religious group?

theleekycauldron, I moved your ALT1 down here, - nobody - not even the nominator - should change the top nomination after it has been replied to ;) - Here you go:

I approve it, but find the original much better, because what the ALT says additionally doesn't enlighten us about the subject. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:29, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]