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Comment[edit]

How come th epopulation mentioned in this article (288 000) is smaller than that of Andaman islands alone (315 000) ? --Kummi 20:42, 24 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I do not think the following statement is correct: "It became an Indian union territory (UT) along with the declaration of India's independence in 1947."

The original Constitution of India says in the First Schedule, Part II: The Andaman and Nicobar Islands...The territory which immediately before the commencement of this Constitution was comprised in the Chief Commissioner's Province of the Andaman and Nicobar Islands.

This implies that the Andaman and Nicobar Islands was a Chief Commissioner's Province between 1947 and 1950, not a Union Territory. --Manojb 09:58, 14 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Austrian colony?[edit]

de:Andamanen und Nikobaren states, that the Andamans and Nicobar Islands were an Austrian colony between 1778 and 1783. Does anyone know more about it? Gugganij 11:27, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Danish rather than Austro-Hungarian[edit]

The Austrians claimed the Nicobar Islands as a colony, but this claim was not effectuated as the Nicobars were already a colony of Denmark-Norway. Danes and Norwegians landed their at 1755, and they eventualy left in 1868, followed by Brits in 1868. The colony was supplied with colonists, soldiers and resources from the nearby Danish-Norwegian colony of Trankebar (colony from 1620-1845). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.135.32.57 (talk) 10:15, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Official Languages?[edit]

The languages mentioned on the page as official languages of the ANI are not OFFICIAL. There are significant populations that speak these languages there but the union territory's government does not recognize them as OFFICIAL. The Union Government recognises 22 languages in the 8th Schedule but Nicobarese etc are not on that list. So what list is this refering to? Languages recognised/allowed in legal proceedings are not necessarily OFFICIAL languages —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.199.177.246 (talk) 08:33, 8 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

The official languages are Hindi and English as per the Report of the Commissioner for linguistic minorities.[1] -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 10:58, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]


References

  1. ^ "Report of the Commissioner for linguistic minorities: 50th report (July 2012 to June 2013)" (PDF). Commissioner for Linguistic Minorities, Ministry of Minority Affairs, Government of India. p. 142. Retrieved 14 January 2015.

తెలుగు Kiranindia99 (talk) 18:59, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merging[edit]

This article has very much in parallel with the Andaman Islands article. The two groups of islands have very much a common history. I saw that each one has much useful information which the other does not, and a reader getting to only one would miss the information availalbe in the other. .Adam Keller 08:51, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't really have a problem with merging, though I am concerned that a combined article could get quite large. I presume that, to be consistent, the Nicobar Islands article should be merged as well. Given that much of the history does overlap, there are significant differences in (for example) ecology and ethnology. A combined article would need to have, as well as a section on common history and current administrative status, two large separate sections on the two island groups where they differ.
An alternative would be to keep three separate articles but tidy them up considerably and move information from one to another where appropriate to minimise overlap. Maias 04:19, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Andamans and the Nicobars are both distinct island groups that ought to be treated separately. ANI is a political entity and needs to be retained unless you also delete all the other articles about states and territories of India. Esquimo 08:45, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The best way is as the editors suggest above to keep three separate articles and linked them with each other. The Andamans and the Nicobars are distinct island groups and having different stock of natives.Lustead 16:49, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The name "Nicobar"[edit]

The name Nicobar is not from the Malay (allegedly "the land of the [naked] people"). It may be from Tamil though... I found a reference to that (with sources) here:

"From the thirteenth century, Arab geographers and historians began to call these islands Nakawari, Necuveram and Nakawara,
clearly derived from the Tamil Nakkavaram (Chakravarti 1994:23)".

Opinions, anyone? Martijn →!?← 15:38, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The info on this page is not original.[edit]

http://www.and.nic.in/florafauna.htm I'm not a wikinaut so...........I'll leave it to anybody that will fix it to do it. This page was two clicks away from the homepage yesterday and it is total crap. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.144.224.182 (talk) 15:51, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WP:INDIA Banner/Andaman and Nicobar Islands workgroup Addition[edit]

Note: {{WP India}} Project Banner with Andaman and Nicobar Islands workgroup parameters was added to this article talk page because the article falls under Category:Andaman and Nicobar Islands or its subcategories. Should you feel this addition is inappropriate , please undo my changes and update/remove the relavent categories to the article -- TinuCherian (Wanna Talk?) - 05:33, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright cleanup[edit]

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Education[edit]

Information on education is availaible on the official website at http://www.and.nic.in/C_charter/education/dir-edn.htm

But the question is whether we can copy any material without it being copyright infringement. I think the statistics should be copyable, albeit with different prose. But I am not sure. If anybody is sure about it, please add it to the article.Thanks.--Siddhartha Ghai (talk) 11:11, 9 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And and bar lands[edit]

The infobox has the label, "And and bar lands"... is this correct? FeatherPluma (talk) 15:30, 14 June 2012 (UTC) I have modified the infobox title; please adjust back with comment if this is now wrong. FeatherPluma (talk) 15:34, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox[edit]

Hey, what's going on? I just tried to undo to older version, but infobox still unappear properly. May someone help? Reindra (talk) 14:17, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Languages in infobox[edit]

It is norm to mention official and spoken languages if need be. No need of mentioning a dominant language in infobox. Have removed it for time being. Comments welcome.Magentic Manifestations (talk) 11:32, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The case is different for Andamans as the Government itself in its official website provided a separate Dominant Language segment owing to multiple factors which need not be stated here. I had; in my edit provided the citation link to the actual National Informatics Centre website. -Thank You Mouryan (talk) 11:48, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Andaman and Nicobar Islands/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

I have edited the fauna section of this page being a wildlife biologist and being from port Blair,, do let me know if there are any discrepancies 203.129.205.253 08:08, 23 February 2007 (UTC)Amlan Dutta[reply]

Last edited at 08:08, 23 February 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 07:42, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Paleolithic people? Clarification needed.[edit]

In the 4th paragraph, there is a rather irritating and possibly misleading statement.

That statement - ?The Andaman Islands are home to the only known Paleolithic people, the Sentinelese people, who have no contact with any other people.? needs clarification.

That particular term occurs in this page only. It is nowhere seen on the page of Sentinelese people.

What does Paleolithic people mean? A subset of humanity that follows paleolithic lifestyle Paleolithic Lifestyle? A genetically unique subgroup of humanity? Or, perhaps a isolated group of human that survived throughout the paleolithic age right in this single location and are now known as sentinelese people? No matter what, sentinelese would hardly be classified as the only unique group. Plenty of genetically isolated subgroups to go around. Or, modern day nuts who want to emulate paleoloths.

Is the term Paleolithic people even a scientifically acceptable term to define a tribal community such as this?

The link that it cites, http://www.and.nic.in/andaman/tribes.php gives a 404 Server Error.

Someone needs to fix this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fishoel (talk • contribs) 00:49, 12 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Tamil[edit]

please change ((Tamil)) to ((Tamil language|Tamil))

Can you specify where this change should be made? Tamil shows up four times. JTP (talk • contribs) 19:03, 15 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
never mind, it's fixed now 2601:541:4305:C70:199:680A:79D3:1344 (talk) 19:23, 15 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
 Already done — IVORK Discuss 13:09, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Waves[edit]

Regarding:

"...warned them to evacuate from large waves that follow large earthquakes."

Isn't it about a retracting sea, rather than waves? Wouldn't it be too late if the actual wave is visible?

(There is the same statement in History of the Andaman and Nicobar Islands.)

--Mortense (talk) 17:09, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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future[edit]

2014 Andaman boat disaster


Indian Ocean tsunami: Nicobar Islands lost 97 percent of mangrove cover, uncovered unknown species

https://india.mongabay.com/2018/08/indian-ocean-tsunami-nicobar-islands-lost-97-percent-of-mangrove-cover-uncovered-new-species/

Andaman, Nicobar Islands may not be inhabitable in future due to rise in sea level: IPCC


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/andaman-nicobar-islands-may-not-be-inhabitable-in-future-due-to-rise-in-sea-level-ipcc/articleshow/71298163.cms


Exclusive economic zone

Exclusive economic zones in Andaman Sea:[7] Number Country Area (Km2) 1 India - Andaman and Nicobar Islands 659,590

http://www.seaaroundus.org/data/#/eez

http://www.seaaroundus.org/data/#/eez/357?chart=catch-chart&dimension=taxon&measure=tonnage&limit=10


EEZ area 659,590 km2 Shelf Area 30,403 km2 Inshore Fishing Area (IFA) 29,107 km2 Tropical Coral Reefs 1.820 % of world Seamounts 0.087 % of world Primary production 456.61 mgCm-2day-1 EEZ declaration year 1977

Draft:Islands Development Agency[edit]

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Edit with edit summary "fiction etc"[edit]

TrangaBellam please could you explain this edit where you make a claim of the sourced material being "fiction"? Webberbrad007 (talk) 20:28, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox Replacement[edit]

The {{Infobox settlement}} used on this page is going to be replaced with {{Infobox Indian state or territory}} as per the Proposal and consensus of RFC. Any questions/suggestions? Discuss Here.

You can also contribute by replacing Infobox settlement with Infobox Indian state or territory on other pages , or by improving this one. Tojoroy20 (talk) 16:59, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Replaced — Tojoroy20 (talk) 20:00, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Marathas[edit]

I have removed the following section as no other reliable source exists [yet] supporting the claim that Marathas ever made the Island their base
The islands became a temporary shipping port of the Maratha Empire and its navy in the 17th century. The Maratha admiral Kanhoji Angre established a basic naval dominance in the islands and played a role in the annexation of the islands to India.[1]

the cited source is not WP:RS. it is a random website by non-experts in history ChandlerMinh (talk) 06:34, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Srinivas jambhekar: Hi, it is regarding this addition. While I'd appreciate your efforts, the sources you've used are not reliable as @ChandlerMinh: has pointed out in March 2023. History related content needs scholarly WP:HISTRS complaint sources. So, you have find and replace with such sources, otherwise it will get removed sooner or later for being unreliably sourced. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:57, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Kukreja, Air Marshal Dhiraj (1 January 2013). "Andaman and Nicobar Islands: A security challenge for India". Indian Defence Review. Retrieved 24 November 2021.

Semi-protected edit request on 11 August 2023[edit]

Since 2018, foreigners do not need permit (RAP) to visit Andaman and Nicobar Islands. [1] Minionmaker (talk) 22:21, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 06:33, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://police.andaman.gov.in/index.php/en/public-information/foreigners/for-foreign-tourist.html

Semi-protected edit request on 10 September 2023[edit]

As you all know Andaman & Nikobar is the part of India.You will be surprised to know that the Andaman & nikobar is part of Great Himalayan series( Young folded mountain).They were formed as a result of tectonics movement of Plates (Indo-Australian plate and asian plate).

This was how these islands were formed and they became populated during the freedom struggle against British empire by the India.British constructed a prison on the island(In india known as KAALE PANI KI SAZA),so that no prisoner can come back from there.British started carrying the people to the prison who led the revolution against them,one of the popular prisoner was Veer Savarkar.Most of the prisoner survived their till India got the freedom. ZamnDevish (talk) 16:22, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please formulate your request as "change X to Y" and give sources for what that info. The Banner talk 16:28, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Hey, I'll be reviewing this against the GA criteria. I'll be finishing this within this week. ‍ Relativity 23:16, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Great job. The article is well-written, all concerns have been answered, with adequate sourcing. ‍ Relativity 04:56, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It was good working with you. Probably one of the fastest GA reviews ever! Thanks! Magentic Manifestations (talk) 05:04, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Feedback, Comments[edit]

@Relativity Thanks for taking up the review. I will address each of the comments and revert accordingly. Thanks! Magentic Manifestations (talk) 04:08, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • One of the citations cites [2], which, per [3], isn't reliable.
Have given news sources
  • For the picture of the Barren Island volcano, I cropped an existing picture. My crop is available here. It's better quality than the existing picture. Would you rather that be uploaded?
Changed
  • In the table titled Symbols of Andaman and Nicobar, are these official symbols? Or are they some other type of symbol?
Official symbols; edited to make it clear
  • Indira Point at 6°45’10″N and 93°49’36″E at the southern tip of Great Nicobar, is the southernmost point of India— in the lead; remove the comma
Removed
  • Per MOS:COMMONALITY, 380,000 is preferable to 3.8 lakhs, but for GA status it's not a requirement.
Edited to mention the accurate number
  • Lead: three districts: Nicobar, South Andaman and North and Middle Andaman with the capitals at— add a comma after "Andaman"
Added
  • Danish were the first Europeans to arrive in 1755— change to "The Danish..."
Changed
  • The part that says which became part of the British Raj in 1868 sounds like it's referring to the Danish themselves. It should specify that it's talking about the islands that were previously a Danish colony.
Split the sentences for clarity
  • the three major wings of Army, Air Force and Navy.— in the lead; should be "the three major wings of the Army..."
Reformed the sentence with the correction
  • In the Etymology section— Nicobar which was located in the sea route— should be a comma after "Nicobar" and after South East Asia in the same sentence, specifically to South East Asia was known as Nakkavaram
Added
  • Etymology— In medieval times— what counts as the medieval times?
Added link and time period
  • Etymology— the given name— What is the given name?
Added the name specifically
  • Etymology— termed the island as Necuverann while the islands— comma after Necuverann
Added
  • Early History—Middle Paleolithic— add "era" after it
Added
  • European Colonisation— in the Nicobar Islands— try "on the Nicobar Islands" instead
Added
  • European Colonisation— made a Danish colony— try "made into a"...
Added
  • European Colonisation— Between 1778 and 1783, William Bolts tried to establish an Austrian colony on the island— wait, which island? I thought there were multiple islands?
Added the island name
  • European Colonisation— n 1872, the Andaman and Nicobar islands— captialize "Islands"
Done
  • European Colonisation— single chief commissioner at Port Blair— was the commissioner at Port Blair or were the islands united at Port Blair?
Rewrote, clarification given
  • European Colonisation— construction of Cellular Jail— try "construction of the Cellular Jail" so we know it's a specific jail
Done
  • World War II— Japanese captured Port Blair— try "The Japanese captured Port Blair" or "Port Blair was captured by the Japanese"
Done
  • Post-independence—part D state— could there be an explanation on what a part D state is here?
Have given clarity on the administration
  • Geography— Indira Point at 6°45’10″N and 93°49’36″E at the southern tip of Great Nicobar, is the southernmost point of India— reword to "Indira Point, the southernmost point of India, is located at (then list coordinates) at the southern tip of Great Nicobar"
Re-worded
  • Flora and Fauna— serve as a stopover site for birds— can there be an explanation there what a "stopover site" is?
Re-worded to simpler English
  • Demographics— of the population lived in urban— reword to "in urban areas"
Done
  • Demographics—Hinduism is the major religion of people of the Andaman and Nicobar Islands— Christianity and Islam in that same sentence both have percentages. Would it be possible to get a percentage of the number of Hindus on the islands?
Done
  • Demographics— who spoke Andamanese languages, for thousands of years and were isolated.— reword to "who were isolated and spoke Andamanese languages for thousands of years."
Done
  • Demographics— The Nicobar islands which was part of trade routes and was frequented by travellers were populated— add commas after "Islands" and "travellers"
Added
  • Demographics— before settled by— reword to "before the islands were settled by"
Done
  • Demographics— massive spike in post the 1960s— reword to "massive spike post-1960s"
Done
  • Demographics— the population of indigenous people have drastically and were estimated to be— change "have" to "has" and "were" to "was"
Done
  • Demographics— and were estimated to be— the estimates are for after the drop, correct? If so, specify that.
Re-worded and split the sentence
  • Economy— about 6% of the total land area can be used for agriculture— comma after "area"
Done
  • Economy— and radish,— change to semicolon
Done
  • Economy— sq.km— space after "sq"
Done
  • Tourism— with 94% contribution— reword to "with a 94%..."
Done
  • Tourism— islands under National Institute— reword to "islands under the National Institute"
Done
  • Tourism— Lime stone caves— change to "limestone caves"
Done
  • Education—As of 2023, there are there are 428 schools — "there are there are"?
Removed

@Relativity All changes that have been suggested have been made. Please check the same. Thanks! Magentic Manifestations (talk) 04:44, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination[edit]

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The result was: promoted by Hilst talk 11:37, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Barren Island
Barren Island

Improved to Good Article status by Magentic Manifestations (talk). Self-nominated at 05:16, 13 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Andaman and Nicobar Islands; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  • article was recently promoted to GA, definitely long enough and follows all applicable policies. The hook is short enough and interesting. The image is appropriate and correctly tagged. Please ping me when QPQ is done. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 18:02, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Gonzo_fan2007 QPQ done. QPQ: Template:Did you know nominations/Synodus isolatus
@Magentic Manifestations: Ping did not work since you did not sign your last post, so Gonzo fan didn't see this. Supplying tick: Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 22:59, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We are in WP:QPQ backlog mode. Double reviews are required.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 07:18, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to restore Sammi's tick for this one. According to this link, the nominator has six nominations. Two QPQs are only required for nominators with over 20 nominations. Epicgenius (talk) 18:28, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Grammatical error in the lead[edit]

There may be a grammatical error in the lead section of the article. In the sentence: "In the 11th century CE, Cholas, one of the three Tamil kingdoms, used the islands as a naval base to launch an expeditions in South East Asia.", saying "an expeditions" is incorrect, since an can only precede singular terms, so the an should be removed (or expeditions should be singular if they only launched one). If anyone can do this, that would be appreciated. Thank you in advance, and have a nice day! 90.139.189.126 (talk) 18:09, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Apparently there were 'expeditions' per the article body. Thanks for pointing that out. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:32, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

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