Talk:Allen J. Greenough

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This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because <1. President of one of the largest corporations in the United States for more than a decade, i.e., Pennsylvania Railroad; 2. Executive involved in one of the largest corporate bankruptcies in the United States at the time, 1970, i.e., failure of Penn Central Transportation Co., 3. Article fills gap in current corporate history list on Wikipedia's own Pennsylvania Railroad history page, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Railroad under Corporate Officers and notice that Greenough is listed as the LAST president of the 150-year-old institution, 5. Involvement, as president of Pennsylvania Railroad, in demolition and urban renewal of Penn Station in New York City into today's Madison Square Garden [section has not yet been added to Greenough biography but why would anyone bother to add to Wikipedia given speedy deletion tags thrown up by user's totally unfamiliar with the subject matter and unqualified to comment?, see http://nyc-architecture.com/GON/GON004.htm orhttp://www.subjectverb.com/www/writing/pennstation.pdf for information on Greenough's involvement in the transformation of Penn Station into New Madison Square Garden Qy0f (talk) 06:46, 18 December 2011 (UTC) JP3 — Qy0f (talk) 06:46, 18 December 2011 (UTC)>[reply]

PS Sent email to Slambo and JGHowes for review of page by people more familiar with the subject matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qy0f (talk • contribs) 07:10, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have been notified of this page's existence and contention. I have a number of additional references and I plan to help work on improving this article to current WP standards this week. Slambo (Speak) 15:43, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because <6. Article fills gap in Wikipedia's own list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_railroad_executives; 7. Recommend Wikipedia editors start handling specialized page reviews instead of grab bag reviews by amateurs Qy0f (talk) 07:38, 18 December 2011 (UTC) JP3>. — Qy0f (talk) 07:38, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Greenough's biographical entry from the 1968 edition of Who's Who in Railroading reads thus:

Greenough, Allen J[ackson] (September 20, 1905, to 1974).

Special Consultant, Penn Central.
Office: 230 Park Avenue, New York, New York.
Born: San Francisco, California, September 20, 1905.
Son of: Ernest Allen and Nellie (Jackson) Greenough.
Married: Jean Lytel, April 8, 1933.
Children: Allen Lytel, Norman Jackson.
Education: Princeton Prep School, Princeton, New Jersey, 1923; Union College, Schenectady, New York, Bachelor of Science in Civil Engineering, 1928.
Career: 1928, as assistant on Engineering Corps, Pennsylvania Railroad; subsequent all with Pennsylvania; 1929 to 1933, assistant supervisor, track; 1933 to 1939, supervisor, track, Cincinnati, Philadelphia and New York divisions; 1939 to 1945, division engineer, Columbus and Pittsburgh divisions; 1945 to 1946, superintendent, Wilkes-Barre Division, Sundbury, Pennsylvania; 1946 to 1947, superintendent, freight transportation, Chicago; 1947 to 1948, superintendent, Maryland Division, Baltimore, Maryland; 1948 to 1950, general superintendent, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania; 1950 to 1951, assistant general manager, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; 1953 to 1953, general manager, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania; 1953 to 1955, vice-president, Eastern Region, Philadelphia; 1955 to 1959, vice-president, transportation and maintenance, system, headquarters, Philadelphia; 1959 to 1968, president and director, Pennsylvania Railroad.
Director: Lehigh Valley Railroad; Detroit, Toledo and Ironton; United New Jersey Railroad and Canal; Manor Real Estate; Girard Trust; Corn Exchange Bank; Merchants Warehouse Company, and trustee, Penn Mutual Life Insurance.
Member: New York Railroad Club; American Railway Engineering Association; Presbyterian; Republican; Mason, Sundbury Lodge 713; Williamsport Consistory; Thirty-second Degree Zembo Temple.
Clubs: Round Hill Club; Pine Valley Golf Club; Rolling Rock Club; Metropolitan; Presidents; Chi Psi (Executive Council).
Home address: Round Island, Greenwich, Connecticut.