Talk:All for You (Janet Jackson song)

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References[edit]

Can we add a references section? "Now I'm all for you like Janet." <-- lyric reference in Taylor Swift's song "Snow on the Beach" from her 2022 album, Midnights. Buffyinfaith (talk) 17:14, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Buffyinfaith: First of all, there is a "References" section. It's for the citations. Secondly, a simple lyrical allusion does not establish enough notability to mention this in the article. It should only be put in the article if enough attention has been brought to "All for You", i.e. it experiences a resurgence of interest/popularity. See WP:IPC. ResPM (T🔈🎵C) 17:25, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Benmite (talk · contribs) 04:30, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gonna start reviewing this soon! :D benǝʇᴉɯ 04:30, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Copyvio check[edit]

According to the detector, 36.7%. Good! benǝʇᴉɯ 18:49, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Background and development[edit]

  • Summarize last two sentences as Jackson described it as "a very happy album" that was about "the different levels of love"
  • Include which album of this this was for her with a source
  • Also no need to use that ref twice in consecutive sentences, remove first use
  • The "usually listen to older songs together to find inspiration" sentence is crufty and overlong, change Before starting a new project, Jackson and her longtime producers Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis usually listen to older songs together to find inspiration. One of the tracks the producers played for the singer was Change's "The Glow of Love" (1980)" to Jackson's longtime producers Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis played Change's "The Glow of Love" (1980) for Jackson with all pipe links
  • Remove with lead vocals by Luther Vandross
  • Change Jackson did not know the song, but Jam wanted to sample it as he used to play it when he was a DJ, and thought it was a perfect fit to Jackson's lyrics for "All for You". to Jackson did not know the song. Jam considered it a fitting sample for "All for You" because of Jackson's lyrics.
  • Move All the girls at the party sentence to Recording and composition section
  • Change Jam wrote the line "All the girls at the party" after Jackson had done all the vocals for the track, which she appreciated. It originally came in the middle of the number, but it was moved to the beginning after her manager suggested it would be cool if the song started like that. to Jam wrote the song's lyric, "All the girls at the party", to be included in the middle of the song after Jackson finished recording her vocals, but it was later moved to the top of the song at the suggestion of her manager.
  • Change last sentences (During a photo shoot for a magazine ... to After a photo shoot for a magazine at Jam and Lewis' studio, during which she played the song several times, Jackson told the producers that she wanted to release the track as the lead single from All for You and to be her first song released after being absent from the public eye...
  • An explanation for why she was absent from the public eye at the beginning of the section, as well as how long the "extended period of time" was, would be good.

Release[edit]

  • Back-to-back use of the same dead MTV News ref again, only needs one at the end of the second sentence.
  • Change and delivered to to and sent it to
  • Move refs 6 and 7 to the end of its sentence
  • Move ref 10 to the end of its sentence
  • Something should be included about when it was announced that the album would be titled after the single

Recording and composition[edit]

  • Is Flyte Tyme Studios owned by Jam and Lewis? If so, include that with a source
  • Change It was written and produced by Jackson and her longtime collaborators Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. to It was written and produced by Jackson, Jam, and Lewis. Remove pipe for Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis
  • Move It prominently samples... to right before Due to the sample's...
  • Remove italo disco band from before Change's name
  • Remove comma after by David Barry
  • Change Jam and Lewis provided to Jam and Lewis played
  • Remove first use of ref 21
  • Move Jackson found it "so beautiful" and associated ref to first section next to mention of sample, remove everything else from that sentence
  • Change For The Guardian's Michael Cragg, the track simultaneously references the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s decades musically to According to The Guardian's Michael Cragg, the track simultaneously references the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s musically
  • Move ref 24 to end of sentence
  • Change , writing in another article for the same publication that it "feels like a throwback to the effortless, loved-up optimism..." to and was reminiscent of "the effortless, loved-up optimism..."
  • Remove For his part,
  • Add a before "sex jam..."
  • Change noted that the track to wrote that the track
  • Shorten quoted lyrics from third paragraph, change to Lyrically, the song depicts Jackson flirting with a man at a night club ("Got a nice package alright, guess I'm gonna have to ride it tonight") but getting disappointed by his inability to approach her and ask her to dance ("Can't be afraid or keep me waiting too long, before you know it I'll be outta here, I'll be gone"). benǝʇᴉɯ 18:49, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Change commented that to wrote that
  • Move ref 20 to the end of the sentence
  • Change wrote on to wrote in, what it to that it, said it to wrote that it
  • Remove comma before as well as the singer's...
  • Change last sentence to Jackson based the lyrics on her experiences seeing people at clubs who were attracted to her but too intimidated to approach her, which she described as "pretty funny".

Critical reception[edit]

  • Remove first sentence (no ref)
  • Add comma after ... Clash commented that
  • Remove easily
  • Change part of to one of
  • Change beating heart of the album to beating heart of [All for You]
  • Change swirling to swirl[ing] per ref
  • Remove In a similar opinion,
  • Add "All for You" demonstrated how between opined that... and ...Jackson was
  • Change felt that it employs to wrote that it employs
  • Change For Cyd Jaymes from Dotmusic, "All for You" was a to Cyd James of Dotmusic described "All for You" as a
  • Remove and no mistake missus...
  • Remove noted that Jackson's joyride was "near-tangible" on the song, change and was to described "All for You" as
  • Replace comma with period after '80s-retro collage"
  • Add [from All for You] after to the '70s
  • New paragraph starting with Browne review
  • Change from the same publication to , also for Entertainment Weekly,
  • Change also noted the song to also wrote that the song benǝʇᴉɯ 19:20, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move ref 36 to the end of the sentence benǝʇᴉɯ 23:45, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Change For Cyd Jaymes from Dotmusic, to Cyd James from Dotmusic wrote that
  • Remove comma after "...R&B"
  • Change as well as to and
  • Remove Jackson's joyride was "near-tangible" on ...and (confusing wording)
  • Change both instances of noted to wrote or another word (MOS:WTW)
  • Change comma right before ref 40 to a period
  • Move ref 18 to the end of this sentence
  • Change , classifying the track as to and
  • Add [from All for You] after to the '70s
  • Add commas before and after from the same publication
  • Change from to for
  • Add also before calling it
  • Remove comma before but "the atmosphere..."
  • Change in comparison to compared
  • Add he before felt that
  • Change , writing that he loves the way that Jackson sings to and praised her singing on the song benǝʇᴉɯ 19:05, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Commercial performance[edit]

  • In image caption, add {{tquote|by
  • Remove made radio airplay history, as it (redundant)
  • Remove Lady Gaga sentence (source only mentions the placement of "All for You" on the Radio Songs chart)
  • Change a single that was not commercially available to an airplay-only single
  • Change , as well as the highest entry to and the highest debut
  • Move of the decade behind by a female artist benǝʇᴉɯ 19:31, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikibreak[edit]

@11JORN: I see on your talk page that you're taking a wikibreak, so I'm not sure if you're available to respond to the edits I've made thus far. I'll give it a week and some change to see if there's a response and then continue making suggestions. benǝʇᴉɯ 20:10, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Benmite Hey there! Recently, I actually manage to do some GAR edits and incorporated some of the recommendations above. I'd be more than happy to help assist @11JORN in regards to completing the GAR on their behalf. Dcdiehardfan (talk) 22:07, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's great, thanks Dcdiehardfan! benǝʇᴉɯ 19:41, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Final comments[edit]

I'm going to fail this one for now, mostly due to inactivity. I should have been more diligent with having things suggested on time, though I think once the nominator is back from their break, it should be okay to be renominated and I can finish the edits. benǝʇᴉɯ 00:49, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Benmite, don't forget to submit this and any other reviews you did this month to the backlog drive! -- asilvering (talk) 00:26, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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