Talk:Alexis Bachelot

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December 25, 2011Good article nomineeListed
January 15, 2012Peer reviewReviewed
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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Alexis Bachelot, who led the first Catholic mission to Hawaii, was suspected of being a covert agent of the French government by some Hawaiian chiefs?
On this day... A fact from this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on February 22, 2021.
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GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Alexis Bachelot/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Redtigerxyz (talk · contribs) 17:22, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rate Attribute Review Comment
1. Well-written:
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.
  • Do not start paras with pronouns like "they". Start with nouns
  • Link seminary of Piepus
  • explain names with a short summary or relevance like "the King of Hawaii Kamehameha II". I have added summaries to some names. Please check. Please add for Hiram Bingham I, Patrick Short, Abraham Armand and other jargon like Ayuntamiento
  • "the departure of its priest" ? departure to some place (France for e.g.) or the archaic meaning as death???
  • Add info about transition of power in Hawaii. Unclear about the years of influence of Kamehameha II , Kaʻahumanu etc. Possibly add years.
  • "his leaders did not try to prevent him from doing so" his???? unclear
  • Add death date and place in the main text
  • I do not see the term "Prefect Apostolic of the Sandwich Islands" in main text (non-lead). Add it there. When did he become this?
  • "Later life": when did the confinement end?
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
  • Add ref for birth date, death date
2c. it contains no original research.
3. Broad in its coverage:
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). "Persecution" 's 1st para hardly has anything to with Bachelot and mostly deals with Boki and the chiefs. Condense.
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
7. Overall assessment. GA PASS.
  • Comment Thanks for starting the review, this has been a fun article to work on. Thinking about Hawaii is a good way to get through the winter :) I tried to remove the paragraph-beginning pronouns, let me know if you see any that I missed. I should have a decent amount of time to spend on this over the rest of the week, so detailed feedback on the article is more than welcome. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:40, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for the detailed comments and copyediting, I think I took care of your comments--but I'll try to take another look in a couple days. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:51, 25 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • My comments have been addressed. GA PASS. Congrats. Great job. Redtigerxyz Talk 15:51, 25 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for the review, it was a pleasure to work with you. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:49, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Subjunctive[edit]

The sentence "King Kamehameha III agreed to allow the priests to stay in Honolulu until they could find a ship to transport them elsewhere, under the condition that they refrained from proselytizing" should end "under the condition that they refrain from proselytizing" which is proper use of the English subjunctive. (The verbrefrain in this case is not expressing a fact that happened, which would be the past tense, or the conditional, which would be expressed with would after if.) See specifically the use of the present subjunctive with conditions. μηδείς (talk) 17:56, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Noted, thanks for the fix. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:00, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]