Talk:Al Ahed FC

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Al Ahed FC/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 20:54, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Will do a review on this. MWright96 (talk) 20:54, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Lead

• "Ahed are also affiliated with Hezbollah. Recently, Ahed have developed a fierce rivalry with Nejmeh, which are also based in Beirut." - more concise; Hezbollah, and are fierce rivals with fellow Beirut club Nejmeh.

Early history

• "However, due to the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982, the club stopped its activities." - better and more neutral The club stopped playing as a consequence of the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982.
• The references attached to the sentence should be in numerical order
• "However, the match ended 1–1, and Ahed were not promoted to the Premier League." - better; The match ended 1–1 to prevent Ahed from being promoted to the Premier League.

Lebanese Premier League (1992-2005)

• "because the club's leaders wanted a name" - its to avoid close reptition of "club"
• "After two seasons in the top flight," - more formal Premier League
• "but were then promoted back to the Premier League." - more neutral before they earned promotion back
• "but were then promoted back to the Premier League.[4][3]" - refs should be in numerical order
• "Sherri resigned from club president " - as
• "Ahed won two FA Cups and one Federation Cup.[4][3][5]" - same issue as the third point in this sub-section

Domestic and contintental success (2008–present)

• "Under the presidency of Tamim Sleimen," - not mentioned by the www.rsssf.com source attached to it. Please use another source to verify this portion of text
• "Ahed became the three-time defending champions, a position held only one other time" - more concise and formal; a position held once before
• "they kept nine clean sheets, including five consecutive ones in five knock-out matches," - better to avoid some close reptition of the sources; they had nine clean sheets, including five in a row in five knockout matches,

Stadium

• Perphaps give a brief mention of Hezbollah are to the casual reader?

Supporters

• "Ahed's fan base mainly comes from the Shia community in Beirut." - Ahed's fan base primarly consists of Beirut's Shia community.
• "he team has strong ties with the Shia militant group Hezbollah," - delink Hezbollah because it is already linked in the previous section; also what Hezbollah means should be mentioned in the stadium subsection

Asian record

• "knocked them out 3–4 on aggregate." - more formal; eliminated them

References

• Reference 1 should include the language it was written in and the work
• Reference 2 should include the date it was published and the author who wrote the article
• Reference 3 is lacking the author who wrote the piece and it should mention that it is written in Arabic
• Reference 14 should include the fact the source is written in German
• References 18 and 23 requires the work or the publisher of the citation
• References 11, 12, 13, 16, 17, 20, 23, 27, 28 should include the date they were published
• References 27, 28 and 29 should mention that they are written in Arabic

Overall the main issues concern the prose, grammar of the writing and the formatting of the references used in the article. Will put on hold for the time being. MWright96 (talk) 07:55, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

@MWright96: Firstly, thanks for taking your time to review the article, much appreciated! The issues should be solved. I have changed the "Domestic and continental success (2008–present)" section a bit (Sleiman was appointed president in 2014, not 2008, so the section had to be reworded a bit). Also, ref. 3 doesn't have a date of publication. Everything else should be fine. Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 11:39, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

@Nehme1499: Am satisfied with the changes made and will promote to GA status. MWright96 (talk) 17:57, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:39, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

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• ... that Al Ahed FC is the first Lebanese association football club to win the AFC Cup? Source: The AFC
  • ALT1:... that Al Ahed FC's stadium has been accused of being a missile cluster? Source: Babagol.net

Improved to Good Article status by Nehme1499 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:17, 13 February 2020 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: I am happy with this one. No need to do a QPQ because you do not yet have 5 DYKs. I personally prefer ALT0 because it is a positive comment. Although ALT1 is likely to attract far more views, I think it could be understood as being similar to repeating an untrue rumour (although of course it is true that the untrue statement was indeed made, and cited). But that is just my opinion. Both ALTs are acceptable for DYK. Thank you for this detailed and useful article. Storye book (talk) 15:08, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

You have perfectly summarized by thought process! While the first puts the club in a more positive light, the second is more "clickbait". I'm indifferent between the two, maybe more inclined towards the first. Thanks for taking your time to review this nomination! Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 17:03, 16 February 2020 (UTC)