Talk:Al-Burda

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Is the burdah controversial ?

Where is the controversy? Can you provide any sources to back the claims of the text that you have added? I have removed the text from the article and place it below:

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This poem is considered controversial by some, not because of the content, but because of divinity that some Muslims have associated with it. It implies that it is not sufficient to pray to Allah alone, but that by simply reciting this poem miracles can happen. This kind of thinking attributes divine power to the poem and distracts from the truth that at the end of the day power is with Allah. Some people people effectively worship the poem and that goes against the fundamental tenets of Islam.

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--Barastert 04:07, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not to mention, that paragraph features blatant POV. --Salleyye 04:20, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The "so-called benefits" should be removed. There is no source for it.

Further: there is controversy directly related to the content, despite what Barastert has said. See http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/115502 as a starter reference, for instance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wth1982 (talk • contribs) 00:24, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

English Title[edit]

Would it be OK to add or "Poem of the Cloak" to the opening line as this is how I was introduced to it and how in UK "english" circles I think it is more widely known?

Qaṣīdat al-Burda (Arabic: قصيدة البردة‎, "Poem of the Mantle" or "Poem of the Cloak")

(Msrasnw (talk) 14:10, 14 September 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Controversial Poem[edit]

This article should highlight that this poem is very controversial among the Muslim community. I agree with Wth1982 when he posted this article which refutes this poem as kufr:

http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/115502

If there is no objections, I will briefly add why the poem is controversial and can be seen as kufr

Omegadramon (talk) 19:50, 3 April 2013 (UTC)Omegadramon[reply]

Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: article moved, unopposed after two weeks. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 11:03, 15 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Qaṣīda al-Burda → Al-Burda – per WP:Commonname, there is no need to append the title of this page with "Qaṣīda" which is Arabic for poem that is additionally spelled with phonetic diactcrics (ṣī) that are not normally used for Arabic titles, because those are not generally transliterated in the title. Additionally saying "Qasida al-Burda" is wrong grammatically in Arabic because it should be "Qasidat al-Burda". Al-Burda is a notable enough topic that there is no need to refer to it otherwise. An instance of needless WP:PRECISION, that is like saying "the state of Germany" instead of just "Germany". Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 08:12, 8 July 2014 (UTC) Tachfin (talk) 01:23, 30 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Sunni Muslims[edit]

Just curious. Why the emphasis on the poem being venerated by Sunni Muslims (several times throughout the article)? First, there is no evidence cited for this. Second, why is this important?