Talk:Abigail Kinoiki Kekaulike Kawānanakoa

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Slight problem with line of succession[edit]

yes, it is true about the reason of adoption but I think there needs to be an important note worth knowing. she was adopted by Abigail Campbell Kawananakoa....not Prince Kawananakoa himself. she was of Kaukau ali'i lineage and the fact that she was the one who went to hanai Princess kekau means that she in actuality broke that line of succession. if it was Prince Kawananakoa himself, then sure, nothing would be worth noting about however, that is not the case.

I will not make edits to the article on this so that there are no disputes but this is just a note to realize. but yes, she is still a princess of high rank. 808Poiboy (talk) 19:19, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think the idea is that all family members hold some semblance of rights/notoriety as descendant of Prince Kawananakoa and that Kekau was considered somewhat closer to the senior generation because she was adopted by his widow and her grandmother. No one is arguing that the right to the throne came from Princess Abigail Campbell Kawananakoa's side of the family. And at least within the Kawananakoa family itself, there is no conflict over who is head or first in a hypothetical line of succession. Most of the family live pretty private lives compared to the generations of Prince and Princess David Kawananakoa and his three children. Kekau had been a more public-facing member of that family in the modern time because of her philanthropy and wealth from the Campbell Estate, which she got a larger share of compared to her Kawananakoa cousins since she was consider legally adoptive daughter of her grandmother. KAVEBEAR (talk) 05:12, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
indeed indeed, but, it is something to have worth knowing. depending on who you get hanai by, that can either strengthen or weaken your mana. looking that it was Abigail Campbell and not kawananakoa who hanaied her, that could mean a very big difference in the right to succession. sadly because of this fact, as strong as her geneology was, I think this would of ruined her right as next ruler O Hawai'i Nei.
but as always, she is ali'i, an ali'i nui. we must honor that. Aloha no na ali'i. 808Poiboy (talk) 05:29, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question about Kawananakoa's horse victories[edit]

Hi, I had a question about the content in this article. In the "Equine endeavors" section of this article, there is a claim about Evening Snow's victories. This claim is not cited, but I do not know if it is important enough to be made cited, or could be deleted altogether. Please let me know, thank you. Khyamamoto (talk) 15:18, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]