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Requested move 8 May 2023[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: No consensus to move the the proposed title. More RMs can be started for the alternatives (non-admin closure) >>> Extorc.talk 11:16, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2023 Atlanta shooting → 2023 Midtown Atlanta shooting – While one can say that this is the only notable shooting in Atlanta, specifying the place within Atlanta could improve the precision of the title (WP:PRECISE), and don't forget that Atlanta is a very big city. Other sources, such as the local Atlanta Journal Constitution (which refers to it as the "Midtown Shooting", see [1]), FOX 5 ([2]), CNN ([3]), PBS ([4]), the Washington Times ([5]), WPXI Pittsburgh ([6]), and USA Today ([7]). InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 20:28, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support will only help readers. In ictu oculi (talk) 21:00, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per InvadingInvader. Mooonswimmer 00:10, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. "Midtown" Atlanta would be unknown to a majority of readers. Whether uptown, downtown or midtown, it still happened in Atlanta. Also, the article on the neighborhood says "exact geographical extent of the area is ill-defined", so midtown lacks accuracy. WWGB (talk) 00:48, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wikilinks can solve this problem. If you don't know where Midtown Atlanta is, you can read about it on Wikipedia by clicking the link. In any case, Atlanta calls that part of its city Midtown, per sources above. Wikipedia doesn't exist to correct locals of a city on what they call parts of their town. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 02:14, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose because we don't usually have article titles like that. Obviously this won't be Atlanta's only shooting this year, but it's the only notable one so far, so the title shouldn't be unnecessarily lengthened. Jim Michael 2 (talk) 09:55, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Hello. Sadly this may not be Atlanta's only shooting. I think the name of this article should be 2023 Northside Medical Building Shooting OR Atlanta Northside Medical Building Shooting. That is specific. Naming article 'midtown' or 'atlanta' are too general. 2601:152:C00:67B0:C9B6:6F6F:BD15:8CBA (talk) 10:38, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No-one other than locals would enter that title. Atlanta hospital shooting would be better, per WP:CONCISE. Jim Michael 2 (talk) 10:51, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Medical Building Shooting" sounds like someone shot a building. WWGB (talk) 10:54, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bullets are often fired into buildings during shootings that take place in or immediately outside them. Whatever the new title might be, shooting shouldn't be capitalised. Jim Michael 2 (talk) 11:17, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per Jim Michael. We do not usually do things like this for articles. For example, the article about the 2019 Dayton shooting is not called the 2019 Oregon District shooting or something similar. Lettler^{hello • contribs} 14:05, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Alt proposal: 2023 Atlanta hospital shooting, or a WP:NOYEAR variant if it is decided that the subject qualifies for NOYEAR, per @Jim Michael 2. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 16:25, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per Jim Michael.

Support InvadingInvader's alternative proposal. --RaskBunzzz (talk) 04:41, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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