Talk:2017 in North Korea

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Carl Vinson[edit]

The Carl Vinson didn't go to Korea after all[1].--Jack Upland (talk) 21:07, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed; timeline updated with this piece news now. Thanks. (talk) user:Al83tito 04:42, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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South Korea and International column[edit]

I have now seen that the article was tagged with suggested cleanup, saying "unclear why South Korea and International are listed." The rationale is that there are developments that originate outside North Korea that are directly connected and of relevance to North Korea.

If North Korea launches a missile, that is within the control of North Korea and would be nested on the left side. And if for example, the UN Security Council approves a resolution admonishing NK that they should not conduct those tests, that would be on the right side. If a country decided to toughen its sanctions against North Korea, that would also be historically relevant and be nested on the right side.

All the examples above are directly relevant to the history of North Korea in 2017. They belong in a timeline about North Korea in 2017. And, instead of having them combined into a single column list, they are better organized in two columns to distinguish between North Korea's own actions, and the international community interacting or reacting to North Korea. Al83tito (talk) 19:06, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that makes sense.--Jack Upland (talk) 23:11, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have gone ahead and removed the tag on top of the article. I have also added this to the article, under a new subsection Inclusion and organization of events, to avoid further confusion:

This timeline categorizes 2017 events relevant to North Korea in two groups: North Korea's own actions and internal developments (left column), and the international community interacting or reacting to North Korea (right column). For example, if North Korea launches a missile, that is an event originating in North Korea and would be nested on the left side. And when the United Nations Security Council approves a resolution admonishing North Korea in connection with its tests, that is an event originating from an outside entity but directly relevant to the country, and is listed on the right side.

This is a stable, well researched, and in my opinion well organized article. It has over 250 cited sources, and has existed for over 6 years. Before tagging it again a constructive discussion should be had here in the talk page to reach consensus on what improvements are necessary and shortcomings justify a tag. Thank you. Al83tito (talk) 17:14, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well done. NK is unique in that we have very little internal information. Hence the SK and international community column.--Jack Upland (talk) 00:41, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]