Talk:2006 Pacific typhoon season

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Seasonal summary[edit]

As you might have noticed, Momoko has added the JMA's seasonal summary [as of 4 November 2006] as a source for many updated pressures and winds. Here's a rundown of the season for anyone interested:

TYPHOON COMPARISON: SEASON 2006
POST-OPERATIONAL INFORMATION USED WHERE AVAILABLE

UNOFFICIAL COMPARISON! SHOULD NOT BE USED AS OFFICIAL INFO.
DUE TO INCONSISTENCIES IN ARTICLES V.S. NEWS OR OFFICIAL SOURCES, DEATHS/MISSING PERSONS TOTALS MAY NOT MATCH

STORM        SUBMITTED      NUMBER       WINDS (KT)       PRESSURE (HPA)       REPORTED    REPORTED
                 BY                     JMA-10   JTWC-1   JMA   NRL/FNMOC       DEATHS   +  MISSING
                                                                                   (PRELIMINARY)
CHANCHU     MACAU CHINA     0601/02W      95      135     930      904            113    +    195
JELAWAT     MALAYSIA        0602/03W      40       45     996      991              7    +      1
EWINIAR     MICRONESIA      0603/04W     100      130     930      910             40    +      1
BILIS       PHILIPPINES     0604/05W      60       55     970      978            672    +    208
KAEMI       REP. KOREA      0605/06W      80       90     960      954             38    +     35
PRAPIROON   THAILAND        0606/07W      65       70     970      972             88    +      8
MARIA       UNITED STATES   0607/09W      70       65     975      976           NONE
SAOMAI      VIETNAM         0608/08W     105      140     925      898            458    +    110
BOPHA       CAMBODIA        0609/10W      55       50     980      987           NONE
WUKONG      CHINA PR        0610/11W      50       50     980      987           NONE
SONAMU      DPR KOREA       0611/12W      35       45     992      991           NONE
IOKE        CENTRAL PACIFIC 0612/01C     105      140     920      900           NONE
SHANSHAN    HONG KONG CHINA 0613/14W     110      120     919      922             11
YAGI        JAPAN           0614/16W     105      140     910      898           NONE
XANGSANE    LAOS            0615/18W      90      125     940      916            279
BEBINCA     MACAU CHINA     0616/19W      40       45     986      991           NONE
RUMBIA      MALAYSIA        0617/20W      45       35     985      995           NONE
SOULIK      MICRONESIA      0618/21W      75       90     955      954           NONE
CIMARON     PHILIPPINES     0619/22W     105      140     910      898             19    +     15 
CHEBI       REP. KOREA      0620/23W     100      125     925      916              1
DURIAN      THAILAND        0621/24W     105      135     915      904           >819    +   >772
UTOR        UNITED STATES   0622/25W      85      100     945      944             30    +      8
TRAMI       VIETNAM         0623/26W      35       30    1000     1000

TOTAL                        23/25       110      140     910      898          >2575    +  >1353
                                      HIGHEST   HIGHEST  LOWEST   LOWEST

Chacor 14:50, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There must be a mistake in there; there's no way NRL said that Sonamu's minimum pressure was 911 mbar! —Cuiviénen 21:29, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I have to agree with Civinenen, 898 for Yagi and Cimaron 900 for Ioke, 904 for Chanchu and Durian seem awfully off. And how does a tropical storm get 911mbar?Mitchazenia(8000+edits) 21:34, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
991, sorry, my error there. Otherwise all are correct. Values were taken from the ATCF archives on NRL. – Chacor 23:52, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Not a problem. Mitchzenia, the average surface pressure is lower in the Northwest Pacific than the North Atlantic, so storms regularly achieve lower pressures there. 898 mbar is not remarkable for a WPac storm. —Cuiviénen 02:40, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Also, looking at those death tolls, Kaemi and Prapiroon should probably have articles if we can get enough data together. —Cuiviénen 02:43, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Table updated to add death toll. – Chacor 00:27, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re-updated using China yearly report. – Chacor 15:17, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Updated. – Chacor 14:17, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Updated to take Durian's latest figures into account - 801 dead 778 missing. – Chacor 10:25, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Durian toll now 819 dead. – Chacor 14:50, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Non-NMHS TD?[edit]

Should this be in the article? Since it wasn't monitored by a RSMC or NMHS, or by the JTWC, it's not official for any particular area, and it didn't have any impact whatsoever. --Coredesat 08:05, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it should be included, although this brings up the question of what to include and what not to include. Hurricanehink (talk) 14:59, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, though the TCOP does say that systems monitored by the NMHSes (CMA, KMA, TMD, Singapore, etc.) are considered official for those areas, so they may merit inclusion. --Coredesat 07:45, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Interesting Cimaron tidbit[edit]

Just as a point of interest, it's possible that Cimaron had surpassed Tip's record as strongest typhoon ever recorded. At the time, the SSD ([[1]]) was giving Cimaron unofficial Dvorak numbers of T8.0. This equates to a 858 mbar storm with 196 mph winds. If they still performed recons in the West Pacific, we would know for sure, but unfortunately they go by sattelites only. Cainer91 05:02, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not correct. The SSD/SAB never gave Cimaron anything higher than a T7.5. It was in the remarks for the T7.5 bulletin that they mentioned the possibility of T8.0. But 1) the SSD is not official, 2) there are multiple satellite agencies and no one else mentioned T8.0 and 3) the T8.0 isn't even confirmed, only a "possibility". Chacor 06:15, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
True enough. I still thought it was pretty surprising that they considered that it could of been so powerful. It was a powerful storm, that's for sure. Cainer91 19:39, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A new article for Typhoon Cimaron[edit]

Typhoon Cimaron was an incredible typhoon. Imagine that storm rapidly intensified, lowering its pressure by a steep 65hPa in just about a day. Secondly, if the former Typhoon Xangsane wreaked havoc in Manila and its suburban environs, then this one swirled in Northern Luzon, causing similar effects as the other did. So, to have more info about this storm, we are to make an article for this one. Please name it Typhoon Cimaron(2006). Pika ten10 —Preceding comment was added at 02:58, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This one is labeled as a Category-5 typhoon, thus designating it a major storm. All major storms must have an article in this encyclopedia since they did significant damage to the affected areas. Pika ten10

Be bold and make it! Cimaron is actually relatively minor compared to some storms without articles, its a loooong slow process.--Nilfanion (talk) 10:27, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You know I'm just soliciting for your opinion as well as your help for this article. If you have seen my statement "...we are to make an article..." earlier, then you may have understood my point better. I can't do the article myself, so please pardon me... User:Pika ten10 —Preceding comment was added at 09:34, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Track maps[edit]

I noticed Kaemi's section differed from the track map, and realized the whole season's maps are out of date. I'm working on updates for these maps. 2005 seems to have the same issue. Potapych (talk) 20:38, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All the weary dead links have been removed[edit]

As part of the drive to eliminate backlogs, this article showed up prominently in several months due to its 30 dead links. I checked the first 15, of which none were at the Internet Wayback Machine. After that frustration, all the dead links had to go. I see now why this is a Start class article, but to be fair, a couple of its main contributors are no longer part of the project. Thegreatdr (talk) 21:24, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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What do you think?[edit]

@Jason Rees: Hi and what do you think? I've made decent amount of changes to this article and my goal is to make this article bump up from a "Start" class to a "GA" (or at least a "C" and I'm happy about that already), especially how it says "High" in importance. If the article does not deserve a GA yet, what should I do to make it much better. If one of them is sources, where could I go? Thanks. Typhoon2013 (talk) 09:39, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Compare the article to 2002 Pacific typhoon season, and you'll see what work needs to be done. For starters, make sure every section is sourced, and that all information is covered by those sources. Remove any references to the meanings of names in the sections. Make sure you use JMA data when discussing storm histories, supplemented by other warning centers when appropriate (JTWC/PAGASA mostly). All storms need to have their impacts researched. Most of the impact is outdated or missing info from other countries - Ewiniar's section doesn't even mention the thousands killed in North Korea! The article can't be rated higher than Start class at the moment, given the sheer amount of info missing. But don't let that dissuade you. Getting season articles to GA is tough, but not impossible. And it's certainly easier when most of the articles in the season are already GA. Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 17:15, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much! I'll make sure everything what you said is done. :) Typhoon2013 (talk) 20:36, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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