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Soviet propaganda?[edit]

In the face of the mythology spread by the Soviets around events like the Battle of Prokhorovka, I find it hard to take this story at face value, especiall given the mentioned sources. --Cancun771 (talk) 17:20, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I can confirm that this action is mentioned on pages 106-107 of Beevor's "Stalingrad", though the 1077th are not directly mentioned by name, it is just said that female anti-aircraft crews fought the 16th Panzer division. The major source of information he cites is not soviet, but the records of the 16th Panzer division itself. Metacosm (talk) 22:16, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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--JeffGBot (talk) 22:10, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

More research[edit]

This article needs more research. Where did the battle take place? Did the 1077th really exist (there are no definitive proofs as far as I can tell that this is the name of this unit)? As far as I can tell we should see this battle in a more broader view. The 16. PzDiv succeeded in making a corridor to the Volga, becoming isolated in the process. This happened on the 23th of August, and they were relieved by the LI. AK on 30 August. (http://www.stalingradbattle.nl/deslag/aankomst.htm) Presumably it was in the making of this corridor that the battle against the AA-batteries took place. A soviet map (http://www.armchairgeneral.com/rkkaww2/maps/1942SW/Stalingrad/battle_volgadmin_ru/10.HTM) shows the breakthrough (but I don't know just how reliable it is). I do not speak russian, so I don't know what the translations are, but another map (http://www.armchairgeneral.com/rkkaww2/maps/1942SW/Stalingrad/ostrov42.gif) says 'unman' means AT-artillery regiment. Supposing 'an' means something like 'regiment' or 'artillery regiment', we could say that all the abbreviations on the first map ending on 'an' means something like that. On the map, we can find 409, 436, 1046 an, and 1/1103, 2/1103, 1/1105, 2/1105, 1158 nan. Are these AA-artillery regiments? We also notice that nowhere on the map the number 1077 is visible. Either the 1077 didn't exist, or 'an' and 'nan' are medium or heavy artillery regiments, and AA isn't depicted on the map. Anyway, our research continues --BlackEagle17 (talk) 10:34, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What looks like the pseudo-English word "unman" is the Russian acronym for "fighter anti-tank artillery regiment" (conveniently in that same order: u = fighter, n = anti-, m = tank, a = artillery, n = regiment). What looks like "an" is the acronym for "artillery regiment." What looks like "nan" is the acronym for "cannon (or gun) artillery regiment."

--Dave Zobel (talk) 16:23, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]