Talk:0-4-0

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Sections removed[edit]

I removed two recently added sections and stored them here, pending possible discussion.

0-4-0 Electric locomotives[edit]

I have two issues with this:

This type of article can do very well without a gallery. Really! It can also do very well without pictures of locomotive classes that are not specifically discussed in the article.
Electric and diesel four-wheeled locomotives are rarely described as 0-4-0, rather as B or Bo. The only diesel in the article so far is probably there because it has coupled wheels.

Following is what I removed.

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Hellingly Hospital Railway 0-4-0 electric locomotive
English Electric 0-4-0 electric locomotive
North Staffordshire Railway 0-4-0 battery electric locomotive

The UIC classifications B or Bo are commonly used for 0-4-0 electric locomotives.

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Suffixes[edit]

I believe this section rather belongs in an article describing different locomotive types, in a section on tank locomotives, than in a wheel arrangement article, since otherwise it will have to be repeated in virtually every wheel arrangement article.

Following is what I removed. (One that's missing is the IST suffix - Inverted Saddle Tank.)

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The following suffixes are those used by the Industrial Railway Society.

Steam[edit]

For a steam tank locomotive, the suffix usually indicates the type of tank or tanks:

0-4-0T = side tanks
0-4-0ST = saddle tank
0-4-0WT = well tank

Other suffixes include

0-4-0VBT = tank locomotive with vertical boiler
0-4-0F = fireless locomotive
0-4-0TG = geared steam tank locomotive

Internal combustion[edit]

For a diesel locomotive, the suffix indicates the transmission type:

0-4-0DM = mechanical transmission
0-4-0DH = hydraulic transmission
0-4-0DE = electric transmission

For a locomotive with a petrol engine, the "D" is replaced by "P".

Electric[edit]

For an electric locomotive, the suffix identifies the power supply system:

0-4-0BE = battery electric
0-4-0RE = third rail electric
0-4-0WE = overhead wire electric

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Comments are welcome. -- André Kritzinger (talk) 19:33, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think you are right - the electrics illustrated are not 0-4-0. Also the suffix material does not relate only to the 0-4-0 article. There is a section of the Whyte notation article dealing with suffixes which could be extended. I further suggest that the following sentence be added to the beginning of the section dealing with diesels to clarify why it has been included. 'Diesel (and electric?) locomotives with wheels linked by a coupling rod are also described as 0-4-0.'--Das48 (talk) 07:25, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Novelty was a tank engine[edit]

Unless I'm grossly mistaken, Erickson's "Novelty" was a four-coupled tank engine run long before 1850. I'm not editing the article though b/c some editor will just ramdomly change it back Shushimnotrealstooge (talk) 15:14, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]