Talk:Akami−Uapishkᵘ−KakKasuak−Mealy Mountains National Park Reserve

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Did you know... that once established, Labrador's Mealy Mountains National Park Reserve will be the largest National Park in Atlantic Canada?

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On 1 June 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Mealy Mountains National Park Reserve to Akami−Uapishkᵘ−KakKasuak−Mealy Mountains National Park Reserve. The result of the discussion was moved.

References, and new news[edit]

Can someone add this to the references and maybe update the first paragraph.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/labradors-mealy-mountains-named-canadas-newest-national-park/article25808694/

Sten gp (talk) 11:40, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

These announcements need to be read carefully. The national park reserve (it is NOT a national park) has not yet been created. No bill has been tabled in parliament, so there is no existing park reserve. See the news release, here, noting the last point under Quick Facts: "Harper Government Announces Creation of a National Park Reserve in the Mealy Mountains of Labrador", Parks Canada news release, July 31, 2015.

Also, the name of the proposed NPR is not Mealy Mountains. It is Akami–uapishku - KakKasuak - Mealy Mountains National Park Reserve. Yoho2001 (talk) 06:16, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 1 June 2024[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 19:14, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mealy Mountains National Park Reserve → Akami−Uapishkᵘ−KakKasuak−Mealy Mountains National Park Reserve – Move to official government-designated English-language name. Similar case to Baaj Nwaavjo I'tah Kukveni – Ancestral Footprints of the Grand Canyon National Monument. Could not move it myself due to the uncommon ᵘ character. QuincyMorgan (talk) 14:45, 1 June 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). QuincyMorgan (talk) 23:08, 1 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 11:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I understand WP:OFFICIALNAME and I don't think that applies here. Leaving off the front part is not like saying "Pennsylvania" instead of "Commonwealth of Pennsylvania", it's more like calling the province "Newfoundland" instead of "Newfoundland and Labrador". It's missing a core part of the name, and in doing so erases important context. The name is intentionally inclusive of the cultures historically and currently occupying the area. The full name is what people would expect to see on maps, guidebooks, signage, etc. QuincyMorgan (talk) 23:26, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not voting either way, but I wanted to note that sources such as this say that the park is known in short as Mealy Mountains National Park Reserve, which makes it a valid argument for WP:CONCISE. It's not quite the same as "Newfoundland and Labrador", since "Newfoundland" and "Labrador" are separate physical entities that are both in the province. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 00:46, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Newfoundland and Labrador" is the official name of the province, as recognised in the Constitution of Canada. It would not be appropriate to use only part of that name. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 12:47, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Protected areas, WikiProject Newfoundland and Labrador, WikiProject Geography of Canada, and Canadian Wikipedians' notice board have been notified of this discussion. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 11:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would ask that the following project also be notified of this move request: Wikipedia

WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North AmericaPortal. Thanks! Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk)< Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 16:33, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Forgot to ping @SafariScribe: Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 18:09, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Responses to Move Request

Support The reason the name is long is that it includes elements of two Indigenous languages and one European language. That was done to recognise the different names that the different communities use to describe the area. All three components are part of the name. I don't think Wikipedia should favour the European language and ignore the Indigenous languages, which is a form of erasing the Indigenous presence from the area. Nor do I think we should allow an American magazine to determine the common name of a park in Canada. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 12:39, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support - the park reserve is listed by this name in the featured list of national parks of Canada, I didn't realize it's a piped link. This is the park's proper name, and we normally use proper names for Canadian national parks. Their titles often incorporate Indigenous names, but the only similar page I know of that combines multiple Indigenous and European languages is Skmaqn–Port-la-Joye–Fort Amherst, which isn't a park but is a national historic site. Anyway there doesn't seem to be any evidence for "Mealy Mountains" being a preferential common name anyway; it was probably created at this title because the full title matches a title blacklist entry, so an admin or pagemover will be needed to perform the move. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 16:33, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.