Talk:Blake Geoffrion
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A fact from Blake Geoffrion appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 9 March 2011 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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Prod/notability
[edit]I'm removing the prod tags -- he's an edge case to be certain, but I think the combination of his being a potential fourth-generation NHL player, a US junior national teamer, and the first Tennessee-trained player to be drafted into the league pushes him slightly above the notability waterline. VT hawkeyetalk to me 03:12, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- Notability is not inherited...and the Tennessee-trained thing isn't notable. --Smashvilletalk 03:45, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
...First player from Tennessee...
[edit]I removed this part about being the first player from Tennessee to win the Hobey Baker, it wasn't in the reference cited at the end of the sentence, and the lead says he was born in Florida. I'm guessing it refers to being trained in Tennessee, but couldn't find a citation for it, and it looks strange with the different birthplace. Canada Hky (talk) 15:05, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- His official hometown is listed as Brentwood, Tennessee [1] --Smashvilletalk 21:10, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Fourth generation player?
[edit]This would be more accurate if the descending line wasn't broken. Blake's paternal grand-mother (Boom Boom's wife) never played a game in the NHL. Nor did Blake's paternal great-grandfather (Boom Boom's father). GoodDay (talk) 18:21, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
- That's just opinion. Reliable sources say he's fourth generation, and given his great-grandfather played, reliable sources are accurate. He is still directly descended from Howie Morenz. Resolute 18:24, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
- Factually though, in direct descent from Morenz, Blake Geoffrion is a third-generation player (as Morenz's daughter never played a game). GoodDay (talk) 18:27, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
- No, factually he is fourth - his father, grandfather and great-grandfather all played. That it doesn't all travel down the paternal line is not relevant. Resolute 18:33, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
- Disagree, as Dan Geoffrion's mother never played in the NHL. There's no direct line of 4 individual NHL players. GoodDay (talk) 18:40, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
- There is a direct link as 50% of genetic material comes from each parent and his father, grand father and great grandfather all played in the NHL. I think your splitting hairs with who is biologically related to whom.--Mo Rock...Monstrous (leech44) 19:03, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
- There's no genetical link between Howie Morenz & Bernie Geoffrion. The sources say Blake is a fourth-generation NHL player & I can't dispute what the sources say. But genetically speaking, he's simply not a fourth-generation NHL player. GoodDay (talk) 19:06, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
- there is a genetic link between Blake Geoffrion and Howie Morenz, however. And frankly, I think this is arguing for the sake of arguing. Resolute 20:06, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
- As far as hockey players are concerned, there's a generation skip between them. Anyways, I won't be deleting - even though the sources are inaccurate. GoodDay (talk) 20:14, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
- there is a genetic link between Blake Geoffrion and Howie Morenz, however. And frankly, I think this is arguing for the sake of arguing. Resolute 20:06, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
- There's no genetical link between Howie Morenz & Bernie Geoffrion. The sources say Blake is a fourth-generation NHL player & I can't dispute what the sources say. But genetically speaking, he's simply not a fourth-generation NHL player. GoodDay (talk) 19:06, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
- There is a direct link as 50% of genetic material comes from each parent and his father, grand father and great grandfather all played in the NHL. I think your splitting hairs with who is biologically related to whom.--Mo Rock...Monstrous (leech44) 19:03, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
- Disagree, as Dan Geoffrion's mother never played in the NHL. There's no direct line of 4 individual NHL players. GoodDay (talk) 18:40, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
- No, factually he is fourth - his father, grandfather and great-grandfather all played. That it doesn't all travel down the paternal line is not relevant. Resolute 18:33, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
- Factually though, in direct descent from Morenz, Blake Geoffrion is a third-generation player (as Morenz's daughter never played a game). GoodDay (talk) 18:27, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
I'm with you, GoodDay. To be a fourth generation player, Bernie would have had to be Howie Morenz's son. If Ron Hextall's son plays in the NHL, he will be the first true fourth generation player.Hellbound Hound (talk) 04:42, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
For what it's worth, I agree with the doubters, which is why I came to the talk page in the first place. The lineage is broken. Morenz and Boom Boom would have to be blood relatives for the statement to be accurate. 208.65.64.18 (talk) 14:17, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
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