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NHL Conference Finals moved to NHL conference finals[edit]

Maybe I missed it. But when was an RM held to move NHL Conference Finals to lowercase NHL conference finals? I'm asking, because I don't remember it happening. GoodDay (talk) 20:23, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't remember either. User:Dicklyon, can you point us to the discussion? Masterhatch (talk) 20:28, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, KHL Conference Finals unilaterally moved to lowercase KHL conference finals, without benefit of an RM. GoodDay (talk) 20:40, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have page mover rights, otherwise I'd revert it right now. Masterhatch (talk) 20:43, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've requested those page moves be reverted. This includes Conference Finals, which was (without benefit of an RM) moved to lowercase Conference finals. -- GoodDay (talk) 20:45, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's better lowercase. SportingFlyer T·C 21:15, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No RM was held. Unilateral page moves aren't the best route. GoodDay (talk) 21:19, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No RM was held. That's not generally needed unless controversy is expected. After the recent RM at NBA conference finals, it seemed the relevant issues had been sufficiently aired and the consensus to follow MOS:CAPS sufficiently strong, that there would not be a reason for anyone to object here. GoodDay's desire to see an RM is not on objection to lowercase, just a wikilawyering impediment to progress. Does anyone have an actual objection to lowercase here, or a reason to make this controversial? If so, just say so, and let's do an RM. If not, a simple move has taken care of it. Dicklyon (talk) 22:26, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We had a similar discussion at @Amakuru:'s talkpage, concerning unilateral page moves & why you shouldn't be doing them. Yet (again) you go ahead & do more of them. GoodDay (talk) 22:37, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You said, "No RM was held. That's not generally needed unless controversy is expected." Wow, you really thought there'd be no controversy? I doubt that. You know full well that this is controversial. Masterhatch (talk) 22:59, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I thought the issues in controversy were well aired and settled. What issues remain, in terms of reasons that someone would argue for capitalization here? So far nobody has said. Dicklyon (talk) 23:16, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, not well aired. This project was never notified about the NBA conference finals discussion at all. How would anyone who doesn't follow basketball know about it? Assuming the result of one RM automatically applies to other pages that were not part of the RM is an error of policy. RMs only apply to the pages that are part of that discussion. Multi-page moves require multi-page RMs. You of all people should know that you should not be making unilateral page moves. If you can't show the patience to post an RM, you really need to reassess whether or not you have the ability to collaborate as needed on Wikipedia. oknazevad (talk) 14:58, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is a constructive page move. Lower case is best as per MOS:CAPS. Flibirigit (talk) 23:19, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not without going the RM route. GoodDay (talk) 23:25, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please stop arguing repetitively. Repeating the same statement in a single thread is disruptive. Flibirigit (talk) 00:08, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Umm, GoodDay's right. It needs to go through a requested move. Whether or not it should be capitalised or not, the fact is, the previous RM said keep capital letters. Masterhatch (talk) 15:32, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The page was moved a year to do the day of the last requested move by the same user who started the discussion. GoodDay was absolutely right to request the move be reverted. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:06, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New RM is now open at Talk:NHL Conference Finals#Requested move 1 March 2024. Dicklyon (talk) 04:47, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That closed as moved, so now it's NHL Conference Finals. Y'all might want to do similarly with KHL Conference Finals and the Conference Finals disambig page that I had moved before. Dicklyon (talk) 06:05, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think you meant it's now at "NHL conference finals". PS - By all means, open an RM at its KHL counterpart & an RM at the disambiguation page. GoodDay (talk) 06:08, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, what a slip. Now at NHL conference finals. I'll leave the KHL and disambig to you. Dicklyon (talk) 08:06, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Heads up—looks like gymrat16/Moka Mo/whatever sockpuppet is back[edit]

I see two substantial IP edits to Alexander Ovechkin and Anze Kopitar that use run-on style edit summaries in the same style as gymrat16, and the latter even specifically refers to gymrat16 in the edit summary. I don't have time to parse the two edits at this moment, but I thought I'd flag that we may have yet another sockpuppet. You'd think he wouldn't be so obvious as to refer to himself in the edit summaries.... 1995hoo (talk) 16:39, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Appears to be site-banned Moka Mo signed out, for sure. GoodDay (talk) 16:51, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That stuff you just deleted from your talk page was pretty $%^ing funny if he's trying to say he's not the same person.... 1995hoo (talk) 17:15, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've requested semi-protection for those bio pages, as the individual is now edit-warring. GoodDay (talk) 17:16, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They’ve just openly admitted to being Gymrat at WP:AN, so that’s that. The Kip 19:15, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think we need to take this to ANI. Unless SPI is more appropriate? Conyo14 (talk) 17:30, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Update I noticed The Wordsmith blocked the mobile IP for 72 hours. I shall place an SPI report for both IPs though. Conyo14 (talk) 17:38, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not familiar with this sockmaster, but yes it seems like an obvious logged-out sock. SPI is definitely a good idea so it can be logged. If there are pages that need temporary semiprotection, you can ping me here and I'll take care of it. The WordsmithTalk to me 17:42, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Moka Mo SPI opened. Conyo14 (talk) 17:47, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

One of the IPs edited Marchand's page (I reverted that IP's changes) and that same editor also made an edit to United Airlines fleet, which was also reverted and an editor in that page indicated that IP is a sockpuppet of Leon103102 (talk · contribs) (I do not know anything about this particular editor aside from its interest in aviation by looking at editing history). – sbaio 19:24, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if that sock is related to the above. But from what I know, Gymrat16 has been hotheaded since being blocked, so maybe it's them. However, feel free to SPI them. Conyo14 (talk) 20:54, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Similar activity at Drew Doughty's page. GoodDay (talk) 19:15, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The sock appears to be displaying competency issues, too. GoodDay (talk) 19:41, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting to me to hear that I'm somehow "abusing my power," given that I don't have any power in the first place. 1995hoo (talk) 20:52, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Semiprotection applied on those articles. The WordsmithTalk to me 19:38, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And so it continues at the Chicago Blackhawks, Ryan O'Reilly & Ryan Kesler pages. GoodDay (talk) 21:24, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Should this be taken to ANI or is the SPI adequate enough action for now? The Kip 21:27, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Some kinda wide-range block is required. The sock isn't taking no for an answer. GoodDay (talk) 21:30, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I’ll get an ANI report typed up later today. The Kip 22:01, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No need: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#IP-hopper continuing to disrupt Conyo14 (talk) 23:18, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RM opened at NHL Conference Finals[edit]

An RM has been opened at the NHL Conference Finals page. GoodDay (talk) 04:44, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was just about to say that: Talk:NHL Conference Finals#Requested move 1 March 2024. Dicklyon (talk) 04:46, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins#Requested move 29 February 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:10, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RSEQ women's ice hockey[edit]

The article RSEQ women's ice hockey needs to be renamed or clarified or something. The RSEQ is three leagues, the highest level being a conference in the U Sports, but this article is about the second highest of these leagues, in which many players play before entering the U Sports. The title suggests that the article is about all three leagues, or about the university league. Wheatzilopochtli (talk) 18:34, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

With this in mind, I suggest we make some changes to the league abbreviations in stats tables for RSEQ players, as I am doing in Draft:Jade Downie-Landry. U Sports players typically show U Sports or CIS in the stats table, but NCAA players show the conference and there is really no reason for this inconsistency that I can tell. Wheatzilopochtli (talk) 18:36, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of National Hockey League arenas[edit]

What do other editors think about adding interior images to List of National Hockey League arenas? It was added and then I reverted it, but an IP editor restored it so to avoid any edit wars I want to see opinions here. – sbaio 11:22, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My instinct was to be for it, but after looking at the article in its current state, they all look the same save MSG. I'd remove it. Wheatzilopochtli (talk) 15:31, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Kraken's home rink, is something like Ringo Starr's description. Both are/were the oldest in their group, yet also the youngest (i.e. last) to join the group. GoodDay (talk) 16:04, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I checked over the IP's contrib history. Appears they've been adding a lot of images in sports pages, without seeking a consensus first. GoodDay (talk) 16:16, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sbaio, @Oknazevad @80.57.47.217

  • Strongly opposed When I redesigned the pages 10+ years ago [1],[2] (yes, that is my IP address before I created an account) it was with the intention of having exterior images only since interior images all look the same and one cannot tell if you're in New York, Kalamazoo or East Bum-F*** China. The exterior images show architectural style and ambient surroundings. It is also why the page List of indoor arenas in the United States only has exterior images in addition to my placing a note in there to post only exterior images. If you want to post interior images, go to each of the individual pages and create a gallery. As for the MLB, NFL and MLS stadiums, they may be interior images but they also show the exterior surroundings with the exception of domes/retractable roofs. Roberto221 (talk) 09:52, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Opposed - I agree with Roberto221. The interiors of hockey arenas are essentially similar. The exteriors are more interesting. PKT(alk) 14:07, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Include. As I said over on the corresponding NBA list discussion, one cannot get the architecturally distinct element of both the interior and exterior in one pic, so one of each is needed. And, yes, the interiors are distinct enough to need pics. These aren't arenas from the days when interiors were all uniform, even cookie cutter, concrete tiers. oknazevad (talk) 14:53, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, the building images work well, but add at least one full hockey-rink image near the top for visual explanation and community interest. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:00, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - The interior images look virtually the same. GoodDay (talk) 15:26, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Metropolitan & Atlantic Divisions[edit]

Looking at the 2013–14 NHL season to the 2023–24 NHL season pages. Why do we list (in the Eastern Conference standings) the Metropolitan Division ahead of the Atlantic Division? Shouldn't it be in alphabetical order. GoodDay (talk) 22:35, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Last time you asked this question, one editor suggested that the divisions were listed from west to east. Although for historical purposes I'm a little partial towards a geographically based order, I'm not strongly opinionated on it. isaacl (talk) 22:56, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think we need a FAQ on this WikiProject, seeing as my memory sometimes eludes me. GoodDay (talk) 23:17, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't matter which order is followed, as long as it's done consistently season-to-season. The current order is fine as it is. PKT(alk) 11:47, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Female player categories for redistribution[edit]

As per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 February 21#Category:Professional Women's Hockey Players Association players, entries in the category need to be dispersed. I have been asked to help, but have little free time until the weekend. If anyone at this project could assist, please comment at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Working/Manual#Other. Thanks. Flibirigit (talk) 22:44, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand why the category is being dispersed. The PWHPA was a league that these players played in, not just an advocacy group. Wheatzilopochtli (talk) 00:59, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article Professional Women's Hockey Players Association stated in the introduction, "The Professional Women's Hockey Players Association (PWHPA) is a nonprofit organization dedicated to advocating for the promotion of professional women's ice hockey.". Absolutely nowhere in the opening sentence does it state this organization is a league, futhermore it clearly uses the words "nonprofit organization dedicated to advocating". If you feel that anyone misinterpreted the article, I suggest rewriting it, have it peer reviewed, then appeal for the category decision to be revisited. Flibirigit (talk) 01:20, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Take a look at the stats section for any of the players in the categories, such as Ella Shelton. You'll see that the PWHPA held games and functioned as a league.
From the PWHPA article: "The PWHPA launched a "Dream Gap" tour, meant to highlight the disparity in support between men's and women's hockey and to increase support for the latter. As the PWHPA boycott stretched beyond a single season, the Dream Gap tour became an annual "season" of exhibition tournaments." Wheatzilopochtli (talk) 01:25, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll add that the PWHPA is treated like a league in a lot of ways, including that its seasons have articles Wheatzilopochtli (talk) 01:32, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think some arguments in the deletion discussion were missed. Although the first season didn't have stable teams, the subsequent ones did, and the last one had a named championship, so even if it was more like a company league than a fully professional one, it does share characteristics of a sports league. Also, I think it is a defining characteristic for a player to be a member of the association, given how it kept players from participating in the NWHL/PHF and thus led to the current PWHL. isaacl (talk) 17:40, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, it's pretty obvious that the closer missed a lot of relevant facts in the discussion that it operated as a league for a couple of seasons, albeit a temporary one. That makes it a relevant category that the players played in that "league". oknazevad (talk) 18:01, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To clarify, I wasn't referring to the closer. I think no one made the appropriate case for keeping the category, based on the historical relevance of being a member of the PWHPA, and as a secondary factor, the nature of its competitions. isaacl (talk) 18:25, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is not obvious, since the article is written poorly. The introduction to the article makes no indication that it operated as a league. Please improve the quality of the article, and comment at the first link in this thread. Flibirigit (talk) 18:26, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To clarify - you may comment at the link at the end of the first comment in this thread, i.e. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Working/Manual#Other. – Fayenatic London 12:10, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've reopened the discussion, please comment at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 11#Category:Professional Women's Hockey Players Association players. — Qwerfjkltalk 16:56, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anaheim Ducks alternate captains[edit]

@5.20.151.184: again, you're making changes to the Ducks roster, without discussing it first. This is the second time, you've changed the alternate captains this season. At least bring your reasons for doing so 'here', before making such changes. GoodDay (talk) 16:03, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PS - I've contacted the IP about their changes to the Ducks roster in January 2024 & their excuse for not discussing their changes, was that their English wasn't good. GoodDay (talk) 16:07, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AIV this is no longer in good faith. Conyo14 (talk) 16:43, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good day. i give arguments here. First three assistans were - Fowler, Henrique, Terry. In October Henrique missed one game with Dallas and there assistant was McTavish Oct.19. ONLY in one game. After game with Nashvill Nov.15 Terry was deprived "A", and it was given to Silfverberg. When Henrique was traded and his "A" goes to Gudas. So McTavish was "A" only Oct.19 and Terry hasn't "A" for 4 months. It's no rotating. Today three assistants in Anaheim are Fowler, Gudas, Silfverberg. I see every Anaheim's game. Thank you 5.20.151.184 (talk) 18:13, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"I see every Anaheim game", isn't good enough. An editor can't be a reliable source. Furthermore, each time you make these bold changes? You fail to do so at their respective bio pages, the List of current NHL captains and alternate captains, thus creating inconsistencies. I'm wondering if there might be a partial WP:CIR issue here. GoodDay (talk) 18:18, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to accept your changes at the roster template & invoke them at the aforementioned list page & bios, for consistency's sake. Though again, the "I see every Anaheim game" isn't a great source. GoodDay (talk) 18:55, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Task Forces[edit]

I have a rather simpler question. What exactly are the requirements for making task forces? Do you just really need to be passionate about a team? Thanks. XR228 (talk) 23:24, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft capitalization[edit]

I moved a few pages like 1991 NHL dispersal and expansion drafts to lowercase, but then noticed there are a whole bunch of different lines of NHL articles with Draft capitalized. Are any of these consistently capped in sources? Dicklyon (talk) 22:05, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Was an RM held to have those pages moved? GoodDay (talk) 22:30, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I reversed your unilateral page move there & the one concerning the CFL & MLS. Please, if you want such sports related pages moved? go the RM route. GoodDay (talk) 22:40, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Are you saying that you think those are better capitalized? Or just don't want to see over-capitalization corrected without wasting a whole bunch more editor time? Dicklyon (talk) 23:03, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I do believe (at least concerning sports pages) that you were asked to not make unilateral page moves. Open up an RM at NHL Entry Draft, including all kinds of NHL related Drafts. Open up an RM at CFL Draft, including all kinds of CFL related Drafts. Open up an RM at 2014 MLS Expansion Draft, including all kinds of MLS related Drafts. It's not that difficult to do. GoodDay (talk) 23:10, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"sport related", "NHL related". Something missing? Tony (talk) 03:57, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Wordsmith:, @Amakuru: What's your view? Should the RM route be taken? GoodDay (talk) 23:14, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We already had a noconsensus at the Amateur Drafts pages, so it was clearly not an uncontroversial move. To proceed as if it was does not appear genuine, unless it was forgotten about, which is possible I suppose.18abruce (talk) 23:31, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't recall that one, and can't find it, but maybe there was. Anyway, I wasn't going to jump on the NHL Entry Draft without more discussion. Currently, in hockey it's just 1991 NHL dispersal and expansion drafts that I moved and that GoodDay reverted. I don't see how that could be considered a proper name, nor can its parts "dispersal draft" and "expansion draft" which are mostly lowercase in sources. I think he just likes to see RM discussions for some reason, so I guess we'll do that. Dicklyon (talk) 02:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I went ahead and started that RM discussion that GoodDay wanted, at Talk:1991 NHL Dispersal and Expansion Drafts#Requested move 17 March 2024, on 14 NHL article titles. Dicklyon (talk) 02:35, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@GoodDay: I haven't studied the evidence, but there's been enough controversy over this type of thing lately that I definitely think an RM is permissible and probably advisable. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 13:29, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2. Divisioona, II-divisioona or Rautaliiga[edit]

The Finnish 4th tier of ice hockey, which is formally referred to as "II-divisioona" or 2. Divisioona" has an another name, which might be even more common than those previously mentioned. The league is often called "Rautaliiga" (Finnish for "Iron League"). Should we change that name or do we keep it as it is now. For example Liiga is called Liiga here because thats the common name, even though it is supposed to be SM-liiga.

Here's some links where the term Rautaliiga is used: [3], [4], [5], [6], [7] Poriman55 - Meddela mig! 10:14, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article Class for seasons[edit]

The 2021–22 Seattle Kraken season is rated as a Stub–class article. However, the 2023–24 Seattle Kraken season is rated as C–class. Should it be this way? There needs to be some consistency for this. I personally believe that they should be C–class. Thank you. XR228 (talk) 01:40, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have reclassified both as start-level. Both articles are lacking siginificant prose to explain the lists and charts. Flibirigit (talk) 02:11, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just curious, do mean when you say that they need "significant prose?" They are just charts with standings and games, and they are cited. Should there be a few more lines at the top to get the article to a higher class? Thanks. XR228 (talk) 04:28, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Season articles rarely get past "Stub/Start" simply because the article has the schedule, stats, transactions, placement in the standings, and draft picks. It does not go into detail what happened throughout the season, why trades were made, how the this seasons' team made an impact to the world. It simply collects the details of the season of the team. The Class system is described here: Category:Ice Hockey articles by quality. Conyo14 (talk) 04:49, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi all, I have started a discussion on Talk:United States women's national ice hockey team regarding the Topscorer / Most Points Stats for the US women's team. Could somebody help to clarify? Xgeorg (talk) 07:52, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of NHL statistical leaders[edit]

Need some eyes at List of NHL statistical leaders, as IP is making updates. Not certain if their attempt updates are accurate or timed correctly. GoodDay (talk) 01:11, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like they've stopped. Conyo14 (talk) 02:37, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Universidae in stats table[edit]

I was adding a stats table to Akane Shiga and I wasn't sure whether to include the FISU World University Games in the international stats table. Elite Prospects categorizes it with minor international tournaments, such as the Hlinka Gretzky Cup, which is usually included here, and the World Junior A Challenge, which is sometimes included here. I would have just added it to the table, but as an under-25 tournament it doesn't fit neatly into our scheme of totaling junior and senior competitions separately. It feels weird to add it and not include it in either total, and incorrect to add it to either the junior or senior totals. The other options would be to leave it in the medal table (it was already there for Shiga) but omit it from the stats tables, or to remove it from the medal table. Wheatzilopochtli (talk) 19:24, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

EYOF and Olympic Qualifiers[edit]

Simple question: should the European Youth Olympic Festival and Olympic qualifying tournaments be included in stats tables? Sometimes they are (e.g. Lenni Hameenaho and Sanni Vanhanen), but in most cases they are not.

In a similar vein, is there anywhere where it is expressly written that youth statistics are trivial? I want to remove them from Vanhanen's article but I anticipate pushback from the creator of the article Wheatzilopochtli (talk) 19:30, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nebraska Night Owls[edit]

Came across this nonsense: Nebraska Knight Owls - trimmed some outright CRYSTAL and falsehoods, it should probably be nuked but maybe someone else wants to take a crack at it. Echoedmyron (talk) 14:10, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Considering their addition of “Cody Taylor” as GM, this appears to be the same user as SpeakingConsequences, who was banned a few months back for inserting made-up content into articles. I’m gonna PROD the article (there’s nothing in it that justifies a separate article from Potential National Hockey League expansion) and open an SPI. The Kip 14:38, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
SPI has been opened at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SpeakingConsequences. The Kip 15:45, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, good catch - you know I thought "Cody Taylor" sounded familiar but couldn't place it, now I'm remembering the prior hoax additions. Echoedmyron (talk) 17:14, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Turns out our pal here is a notorious sockmaster with 38 confirmed socks, and hockey’s just his latest target. Both accounts have been blocked. The Kip 03:20, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh my, this is definitely someone looking for a regional ban at this point. Conyo14 (talk) 15:15, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Opened up an LTA case/file at Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/ProTaylorCraft. The Kip 05:16, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ultras draft[edit]

I invite everyone who knows anything about ultras groups in ice hockey to contribute to Draft:Ultras (ice hockey) Poriman55 - Meddela mig! 15:40, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]