Talk:Fall of Constantinople

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Unit conversion[edit]

> weighing 500 kilograms (1,100 lb) over 1.5 kilometres (0.93 mi)

If you do not have data that those projectiles which broke the Theodosian Walls were thrown for 1.497km (or so), and weighed 498.9kg (or so), then those "500 kilograms" are "1000 pounds", and "1.5 kilometres" are "1 mile" - because "500 kilograms" and "1.5 kilometres" clearly look like approximations

Serbians[edit]

There are no valid sources talking about 1500 imaginary Serbian Cavalry helping in the battle. Why has it still not been removed? Even if there were Serbs taking part in the battle they were taking part as Ottoman Janissaries.

Reference formatting[edit]

I've just edited this article to fix an sfn multiple-target error, and in the process noted that the article uses several forms of reference for "reused" sources with different page numbers: {{sfn}}, {{rp}} and unformatted shortened footnotes (e.g. this reference). Which format should we standardize on? If we reach a consensus here I am happy to do the legwork to convert the references to a common format. My personal preference would be {{sfnp}}, which is similar to the unformatted shortened footnotes but with a link, but the most used style in the article currently is probably {{rp}}. Thanks, Wham2001 (talk) 10:07, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Since nobody has chimed up here in a week and a bit, I shall go with sfnp. Best, Wham2001 (talk) 18:17, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"45,000–50,000 Janissaries"[edit]

What an exaggeration. How did Mehmed have such numbers? There weren't even such numbers in janissary corps' peak. Can someone find proper sources? Looks like such a mess. Beshogur (talk) 14:44, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Serbia, vassal of Ottoman Empire[edit]

  • "Thus local rulers - whether Byzantine princes, Bulgarian, and Serbian kings..[..].. accepted the status of vassals of the Ottoman sultan" "The Ottoman Empire, 1700-1922, Donald Quataert, page 26
  • "The historical battle was probably a tactical draw, but Serbia's losses at Kosovo left it unable to resist the Ottomans further, so it became an Ottoman vassal...." --Serbia: A Modern History, Marko Attila Hoare
  • "..Dubrovnik's annual tribute to the Ottomans rose in 1471 from 3,000 to 8,000 ducats. In addition to payment, vassals were expect to provide troops..." --"A Concise History of Serbia", Dejan Djokić, 141.
  • "Bayezit's army seems to have been composed primarily of vassal troops, particularly those sent from Serbia." --"History of the Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey, Volume 1, Stanford Jay Shaw, page 35.
  • "...Serbia (though soon having to become a vassal state of the Ottomans) hung on as a principality for another half century." -- "Yugoslavia and Its Historians: Understanding the Balkan Wars of the 1990s", ed.Norman M. Naimark, Holly Case
  • "After the Battle of Kosovo in 1389 the remainder of Serbia became a Turkish vassal state..." --"East Central Europe in the Middle Ages, 1000-1500", Jean W. Sedlar, page 23.
  • "To give a striking example, Stefan Lazarevic, the Orthodox Christian Prince of Serbia and an Ottoman vassal..." --"The Second Ottoman Empire: Political and Social Transformation in the Early Modern World, Baki Tezcan, page 88.

So much for "propaganda".--Kansas Bear (talk) 20:46, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]