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[[User:Clovermoss]] submitted the following nomination for [[WP:Editor of the Week|Editor of the Week]]:
:I nominate Nick Moyes to be Editor of the Week for his 10 year effort in helping newcomers adjust to Wikipedia. He is incredibly welcoming to new editors, going above and beyond normal to help, and is always willing to share his knowledge and experience. He is the top editor for the [[WP:Teahouse]], making over 1,800 edits to the project page. He's also made improvements to the project itself and has contributed to many nuanced discussions in order to do so. Nick Moyes is also an adopter in the [[Wikipedia:Adopt-a-user|Adopt-A-User]] program, and I'm one of his three adoptees. Nick Moyes is a talented editor with expertise and interests in several areas. [[Falconry]], [[Flora]] and [[Mountain climbing]] are just a few. Nick has also organised [[Wikipedia:GLAM|Glam]] events in RL, and generally promoted and supported Wikipedia in the real world. I have to be concise, even here, as Nick has made so many valuable contributions that it's almost impossible to summarize the quality of everything he's done.
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Richard Nevell (WMUK) (talk) 13:55, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Richard Nevell (WMUK): I got the email telling me I've got mail from you, but I can't find your actual message in my Inbox. So, could you either try again, or DM me via Twitter, please? (I have just discovered my webmail company appears to have deleted virtually every one of my past messages - and yours is probably amongst them.) Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 20:56, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It might have ended up in spam! I just re-sent the message so hopefully that's got through. Richard Nevell (WMUK) (talk) 15:55, 4 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019

Hello Nick Moyes,

Backlog

Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.

Coordinator

A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.

This month's refresher course

Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired Ballonman, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for making the occasional mistake while others can learn from their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.

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Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon (you will need to have 'Nominated for deletion' enabled for this in your filters) may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders using Twinkle. They require your further verification.

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Please be sure to look for the tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. WMF policy requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:15, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks and essay

Hi Nick. Thanks for your support at RfA. It's truly appreciated. You might also be interested reading in the essay I alluded to in reply to you. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 02:21, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Thank you very much for providing me with many options to check out, I am working through them already. I will provide some feedback as soon as I can. 
Tvincent88 (talk) 02:52, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much for this, Tvincent88. If you let me know the best (and maybe the worst ones) I promise to view them and to offer the best to others at the Teahouse. Nick Moyes (talk) 06:29, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Hi Nick, Thanks for welcoming me!, you know what, I got a nomination posted! lol, it's the death of Tonga's Prime Minister, nothiing happy, but well, lol. Thanks again! --CoryGlee (talk) 10:21, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey that's fantastic news (for you, that is!). A great achievement for a new editor to get a post on the main page. You'll go far! Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 10:28, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

TheWikiWizard - September 2019

Hello, Nick Moyes! Here is the September 2019 issue of TheWikiWizard.

We Hope you like this month's issue! If you'd like to discuss this issue, please go to this issue's talk page. Happy Reading! Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 21:44, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Derby Railway Engineering Society (DRES)

Hi Nick

Thank you for contacting me.

I would really appreciate some help on getting the DRES page published. I clearly am not having much luck at the moment! There is additional content I wish to add about the Society including: a summary of the history of the society, what the society does today and a list of past presidents. This will also include external references to books, newspaper articles, websites, the society web site and archive material from the society. How many of these do I need to reference before the article becomes acceptable to Wikipedia?

Kind regards

Mark Zawisza — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markz55 (talk • contribs) 12:56, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Markz55. Now it's a draft, you can work on it for as long as you wish without anyone bothering you (unless you add copyrighted content). Drafts generally only get deleted if they go untouched (unedited) for 6 months. So feel free to add other encyclopaedic content when you have the time. The really key thing, however, is that you cannot base an article on an organisation's own website - that's purely free promotion. It is essential to be able to show references which evidence that other, reliable souces have written about DRES in detail. These don't have to be online, but they must be published and potentially available. Private Society archives or other unpublished documents just dont cut it. A 1920s D.E.T. notice of a forthcoming meeting, or brief summary of a past one are not sufficient. There will be many other groups (eg Midland Railways Natural History Society - now Derby Nat.Hist.Soc.) which would face similar challenges to meet the organisational notability criteria laid out in WP:NORG. So start by looking for three or more good independent references before spending time on adding minor detail.
BTW:I saw you had another article draftified about a Hotel. This stands more chance of being accepted, especially if you focusand expand on the historic Grade II listed conservation status and link to that definition. I'd be happy to give it a look over once you're happy youve investigated all possible historic sources.
Finally, it helps a lot if you sign every talk page post. Just add four keyboard tildes (like this: ~~~~) right at the end. Forgive all my minor typos here - am rather busy redecorating, and am on a tiny mobile device, and in a rush. Nick Moyes (talk) 13:33, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nick

Many thanks for the prompt reply. Most helpful.

I have updated the draft about DRES now to include more information about the society and I have included external references (books and websites) which mention the society in detail. Would you be kind enough to have a look and see if this "cuts it". I presume you still have access to the draft?

Thank you for mentioning the Grapes Hotel. I will try and find a bit more about it from a conservation point of view. I will update it and come back to you.

Kind regards

Markz55 (talk) 15:07, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Edmund de Waal copy edit

Hi Nick, Thanks for your help so far with editing advice and for sending me in the right direction for more information on what makes a good Wiki entry. I have spent some time in the last couple of days giving the Edmund de Waal entry a good copy edit to try and make it more neutral in tone, and by adding some further references as per your advice. I was wondering if you had the chance, could you have a look over the entry for me? I'm sure there is probably room for more edits to condense the text, but I was cautious not to remove too much information in case it was deemed necessary. I am more than happy to take on any further edits and advice you may have. :-) Fieldguide (talk) 08:37, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

My first wiki birthday...

Has happened! I can now say I've been on Wikipedia for slightly over a year. Clovermoss (talk) 01:47, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yay - congratulations, Youve cone a long way in that time, haven't you? I've nearly completed my reply to you on our dedicated talk page. You'll see that I said I'll ping you when its complete. Nick Moyes (talk) 02:12, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've discouraged a new editor and I don't think I've done enough to make up for it or if that's even possible to do

Hi, Nick. I've made a mistake. I wrongly assumed that AMarkMcLean might be a paid editor, when they're just a new editor interested in improving the Wikipedia article. I feel terrible about it, but I'm not sure what else to do. I replied on their talk page and made a comment on the COIN noticeboard about my mistake [10], but I'm afraid that it might not sound sincere coming from me. I'm aware that mentioning their username will give a notification; which is part of the reason I'm asking for your advice, as I was hoping that someone like you could be more welcoming than I have been in this situation. Clovermoss (talk) 00:05, 22 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Clovermoss: I think you've done your best to say sorry. I've made equally embarrassing errors, and apologising is all one can do. Or try this. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 17:59, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I have done my best, but I still regret making that mistake in the first place. I feel like I'm a bit of a failure, you know? I think it bothers me so much because it's the complete oppisote of what I'm trying to do. I want to be welcoming and all that, I'm someone who enjoys helping others. I guess everyone makes mistakes, and I'm kind of relieved that you aren't angry at me for making one, but it's definitely a mistake I want to avoid making in the future. I hope that my apology was read. I guess there's no way to know that unless I get a reply, but I just wish that even if they have no plans to ever edit again, at least my apology had been received. So they knew how sorry I was. Clovermoss (talk) 20:55, 24 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Clovermoss: Listen, as you go through life you'll be bound to make mistakes. It's what people do. When you're young, those little mistakes can seem huge - but they're not really, and they shouldn't let them eat you up inside. The most important thing that you can do is to recognise your mistakes when you make them, and say sorry whenever you can, both in real life and here. That you have done, so you should not berate yourself. Learn from life's errors, but I can assure you that the only people who never make mistakes are the people who never do anything. You know, it's lovely when someone comes back and says 'I forgive you', but the greatest thing of all is the person who says 'sorry' to start with. I shall only get cross with you if I find your one mistake here puts you off from developing as a great editor. I have huge confidence in you.
Look, we are all quick to judge others, and sometimes to come to the wrong initial view. Want to know what my biggest mistake and biggest regret on Wikipedia is? It was at the Teahouse, in full public view, about 18 months ago, when an editor who I remember thinking at the time was going to be trouble, came to ask a question there. For some reason I was very condescending and scathing of their actions, and, having checked for copyvios in their work, I accused them of breaking our policies. They said they hadn't, but I insisted (because the evidence as I saw it at the time pointed clearly to them having done so. So I accused them of outright lying. They continued to deny it and another experienced editor came to my support and also accused them of copyright violations. Oh, that made me feel clever (and right). Gotcha! Luckily a third editor saw things differently and far more clearly, and pointed out my error. The copyvio content that I thought they had added had actually come from that article originally and had been used elsewhere. It had been in that article long before it was placed on an external site. I was mortified! How could I have been so wrong? I felt terrible, and matters were made worse by me having to leave immediately afterwards to join the family for evening dinner. I made a very hasty holding reply, suggesting that I might indeed have been wrong, then returned a few hours later to investigate, and saw I had been wholly and utterly in the wrong. Not only that, but sarcastic and bombastic, too. Now, I could have said 'my bad' and moved on and not cared about their feelings, but I felt this (probably young) person deserved far better from a Teahouse host, despite my overall distrust of their editing motives - and perhaps it was that which had clouded my initial judgement of their edits. So I wrote them a heartfelt apology, not only publicly at the Teahouse, but also directly on their talk page. Things that have been said can never be unsaid, but they can at least be apologised for, and that's how we should all behave on Wikipedia in my view. And you've done that. The good news is: nobody dies from our small mistakes! You can see more of this sorry mistake of mine, and my apology  at the Teahouse and direct on their user talk page. The fact that about three days later they were indefinitely blocked as a sock puppet didn't make me feel any better for my error, nor vindicated me in any way. I messed up. But these things happen to us all - learn from them and improve for next time - that's all any human can do. To be honest - it's the people who don't care about their mistakes and their impact on others that are the real concern. You're doing just fine! Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 01:38, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Do articles like this belong in WP?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_people_from_Jammu_and_Kashmir&curid=401745&diff=917445959&oldid=916518353 I can think of thousands of communities and states across the world which could have an article like this, and the list of people with WP articles is staggering. Most seem to be local functionaires. Again if these people meet the criteria for notability then so does so many others, including you Gees maybe even me ;)Oldperson (talk) 21:41, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, Oldperson. (You know, it seems somehow discriminatory calling you by your chosen username!) It's a good question, but the answer is "Yes, it does belong on Wikipedia". When it says "List of people from...insert placename here", it really means "List of notable people who already have an article on Wikipedia about them from...insert placename here".
Here are the first 500 search results for articles of that name. And all these 'List of ' pages can be placed into sub-categories of Category:Lists of people by place. The larger the place, the more sensible it is to subdivide them into smaller, more manageable regions. Of course, if you find an entry there which has neither a wikilink nor a citation to prove notability, then feel free to remove them with the appropriate edit summary. Many people like to add names as redlinks, but these generally shouldn't be accepted without a supporting reference. You can read a little more about what's ok at WP:LISTPEOPLE. I note that the diff you sent me was of someone who had removed a person from such a List. I checked it and agree that there was no evidence in the article that they came from that part of India. Sadly, nobody's written about me, nor added me to any interesting lists. Where I come from we're all so dull that there isn't even a 'List of' article about our area! Best wishes, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:36, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oldperson is quite appropriate. I am 8o years of age, and I am sure that you have reviewed my user page. I am lucky to still be around. My expiration date was May 2018, so I am good.Thanks for answering my question. I get flabberghasted by the wide variety of articles on WP.

I of course googled you and saw your youtube presentation. I think you deserve an article and volunteer to write it, if you wish. Just don't know where to start. I would say that you are extremely modest and would probably be guffawed (out of jealousy may be?) by other admins and editors, but could blame it on me. So where do I start? I could use a good project, while waiting for a snail mail package from Wright Patterson AFB,Ohio public affairs. Subject: List of Aerospace Primus persons. They weren't even aware that there was such a thing.Oldperson (talk) 22:56, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It's kind of you to think that about me, but no, Oldperson, I certainly wouldn't meet our notability criteria, unless I start going on another a killing spree, even if perhaps two or three of the things I've helped create over the years do. I have held back on writing about one of them myself as I would have a bit of a WP:COI, so, unless you fancy writing about two hundred years of botanical publication of a part of the UK you've probably never heard of, I really wouldn't both if I were you! Come to think of it, I've been in many local newspapers and local TV over the years quite a bit (and even had an hour's 'Desert Island Discs-type programme about me on local radio, there's absolutely nothing whatsoever about me that's sufficiently notable by Wikipedia's standards. Unless, that is you go looking for the front page photo of me on the cover of the rather salacious The Sunday Sport national newspaper a few decades ago. But, as I was painted blue/green, dressed up as an alien, standing in front of this world famous painting, along with a news story about beings from another planet buying up the earth's artworks, it's unlikely that any citation you might provide would ever be regarded as a WP:RS! I think you'll have far more success extracting information from the Air Force Base - though I'm not sure I understand quite what you're seeking there. I do think it's brilliant how you've picked up editing Wikipedia, and it's certainly a great way to keep the mind sharp and active, especially in the face of the challenges you'd had to put up with in recent times. Keep on keeping on! All the very best, Nick Moyes (talk) 00:01, 24 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Shite (using Brit euphemisms), if you "ain't" notable per WP standards then most of the WP:BLP's I've seen, especially on the link that I referenced definitely aren't. That said and done. Aerospace Primus is a select group of persons started by the Air Force R&D Command, which has since morphed into the USAF Systems Command, which has morphed into USAF Air Material Command. It's purpose was to honor the contributions of persons (men) who made contributions to the American aerospace program by being the first thus Aerospace Primus, amongst the honorees were Ed White (astronaut), Chuck Yeager, Joseph Kittinger, it also includes "nobodies" like TSgt James Howell who made the first faster than speed of sound, ejection from an aircraft (he was a live test dummy). Of course the Soviet Union beat America to many of the claims, but I think that the criteria for the inductees was that they were the first American whose feats contributed to the American aerospace program. There are a number of firsts that would also qualify,like those in the Apollo program but I never heard of the program after Ed White, thus my inquiry to Wright Patterson. I suspect that I will be disappointed, so I am not hanging onto the mailbox. I will just have to find something else that will pique my imagination.Oldperson (talk) 01:37, 24 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Poveglia

I saw that you replied to my conversation with Poveglia. It seems like he was trying to help me, but the user was blocked for sock puppetry, making me feel a little betrayed. Should I have trusted this user? Interstellarity (talk) 14:56, 24 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Interstellarity: That's a moot point. Many very good editors get blocked and a few break our rules by trying to return to continue editing under another name. Some get away with it for quite a while. They are reasonable, constructive, yet are evading that block. Were they to be trusted? well, in so far as they behaved competently, then, yes. But can they be trusted not to do it again, who knows? I've had a number of young editors, some of whom I've spent many frustrating hours trying to sort out to get back on the straight and narrow, only for them to turn out to be blocked for sockpuppetry (eg JJBullet) or others for offensive outburts to others. I've never felt betrayed and I don't think you should either - just disappointed. Often, at the back of one's mind one asks 'why does this new user seem so competent?'. And it's surprising how frequently the answer is that they turn out to have been active here before. But you know that we always ask everyone to Assume Good Faith, so no, don't feel betrayed. Should you have trusted them? Well, if there was no evidence to the contrary - yes, you should have, and I assume you did. There's no shame in that. Nick Moyes (talk) 15:32, 24 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nick Moyes, Hopefully, I can move on from this after this user got blocked. Interstellarity (talk) 16:21, 24 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I see absolutely no reason for you not to. Don't take it to heart! I do remember seeing the name 'Quixotic Potato' some time back, now I've come to look into them. regards,Nick Moyes (talk)

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Administrators' newsletter – October 2019

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2019).

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  • Following a discussion, a new criterion for speedy category renaming was added: C2F: One eponymous article, which applies if the category contains only an eponymous article or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories.

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Wiki Adventure

Reading your response to Greg Dahlen on the Teachouse I thought you might be able to answer my question. I have created 5 Articles to date and edited more than 1000, been an editor since at least Apr 2018. Then last week a Wiki Adventure Template showed up. Do you know why Is everyone getting a template, or only certain chosen ones? I felt insulted so I deleted the template. Do you know why I received it? ThanksOldperson (talk) 16:36, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again Oldperson. Users are welcome to delete most things from their userpage, and you did right with that template. Actually, it was the work of a now indefinitely blocked editor who seemed to take delight using WP:Twinkle to leave those messages on random users' talk pages, like this on yours. So it wasn't some weird automated process, rather the work of some weird person who has now been blocked, both for a lack of competence and for disruptive editing. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 21:06, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Nick MoyesI do believe that I know who the editor was. he was Jack90s15 that template showed up right after I made an edit,and the next edit was his. When I was reviewing ANI or some admin page I saw that he was blocked.Oldperson (talk) 21:21, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Update on Libya Wikiproject

Hello, I have completely formatted the Libya Wikiproject. There is only one if not two active members, so hopefully this brings more active members to the page. Here is the formatted page. I got rid of some of the clutter but I still have to change a couple things. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Libya Max Pigeon (talk)

File:Teahouse Barnstar Hires.png CC BY-SA 3.0 Heather Walls Teahouse Barnstar
Thank you for your help and advice with Wikiproject Libya. I really appreciated it! Max Pigeon i
Thank you. I'd like to suggest you add a Table of Contents (see WP:TOC) - but at present there are too many sub-headings, and not enough main headings. So, for some reason this gas stretched out the TOC - perhaps because of the column layout. You could collapse some of the long lists of articles, and be aware of physical overlapping columns. I'm guessing you've used actual pixel numbers rather than proportions. So, on my tiny phone screen, the participant list is partly obscured by another column. Good luck with all this. Nick Moyes (talk)|
I'll look into it. I am on a computer so for me it looks fine. I'll be sure to look at it on my phone sometime. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Max Pigeon (talk • contribs) 13:19, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2019-41

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Recent changes

Problems

  • There is a problem in the visual editor when you copy or delete text with footnotes. It will be fixed soon. [12]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 October. It will be on all wikis from 10 October (calendar).

Meetings

  • Recurrent item Advanced item You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 9 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • The Community Wishlist Survey has a new format. It will focus on wikis that typically get less support. It will probably go back to the normal format next year. It is not decided exactly how it will work this year. You can leave feedback.
  • The URL of the Wikimedia wiki main pages could be changed. This is because the current URLs cause several problems. For example https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Main_Page would be https://www.wikidata.org/ instead. You can tell the developers if this would cause problems for your wiki.
  • There is a new technical community newsletter. You can read more about the work of Wikimedia's technical community. Subscribe to get the information in the future.
  • Advanced item Outreachy is an internship program for groups who are underrepresented in free and open-source software. There are seven Wikimedia projects about coding, documentation and quality assurance in the next round. Persons who fit the criteria can apply. The last day to apply is 5 November.

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15:35, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:2018/19 Atlantic Sun Conference men's basketball season

Hello, Nick Moyes. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "19 Atlantic Sun Conference men's basketball season".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:19, 11 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Editing News #2 – Mobile editing and talk pages – October 2019

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Inside this newsletter, the Editing team talks about their work on the mobile visual editor, on the new talk pages project, and at Wikimania 2019.

Help

What talk page interactions do you remember? Is it a story about how someone helped you to learn something new? Is it a story about how someone helped you get involved in a group? Something else? Whatever your story is, we want to hear it!

Please tell us a story about how you used a talk page. Please share a link to a memorable discussion, or describe it on the talk page for this project. The team would value your examples. These examples will help everyone develop a shared understanding of what this project should support and encourage.

Talk Pages

The Talk Pages Consultation was a global consultation to define better tools for wiki communication. From February through June 2019, more than 500 volunteers on 20 wikis, across 15 languages and multiple projects, came together with members of the Foundation to create a product direction for a set of discussion tools. The Phase 2 Report of the Talk Page Consultation was published in August. It summarizes the product direction the team has started to work on, which you can read more about here: Talk Page Project project page.

The team needs and wants your help at this early stage. They are starting to develop the first idea. Please add your name to the "Getting involved" section of the project page, if you would like to hear about opportunities to participate.

Mobile visual editor

The Editing team is trying to make it simpler to edit on mobile devices. The team is changing the visual editor on mobile. If you have something to say about editing on a mobile device, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.

Edit Cards

What happens when you click on a link. The new Edit Card is bigger and has more options for editing links.

Toolbar

The editing toolbar is changing in the mobile visual editor. The old system had two different toolbars. Now, all the buttons are together. Tell the team what you think about the new toolbar.
  • In September, the Editing team updated the mobile visual editor's editing toolbar. Anyone could see these changes in the mobile visual editor.
    • One toolbar: All of the editing tools are located in one toolbar. Previously, the toolbar changed when you clicked on different things.
    • New navigation: The buttons for moving forward and backward in the edit flow have changed.
    • Seamless switching: an improved workflow for switching between the visual and wikitext modes.
  • Feedback: You can try the refreshed toolbar by opening the mobile VisualEditor on a smartphone. Please post your feedback on the Toolbar feedback talk page.

Wikimania

The Editing Team attended Wikimania 2019 in Sweden. They led a session on the mobile visual editor and a session on the new talk pages project. They tested two new features in the mobile visual editor with contributors. You can read more about what the team did and learned in the team's report on Wikimania 2019.

Looking ahead

  • Talk Pages Project: The team is thinking about the first set of proposed changes. The team will be working with a few communities to pilot those changes. The best way to stay informed is by adding your username to the list on the project page: Getting involved.
  • Testing the mobile visual editor as the default: The Editing team plans to post results before the end of the calendar year. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: VisualEditor as mobile default project page.
  • Measuring the impact of Edit Cards: The Editing team hopes to share results in November. This study asks whether the project helped editors add links and citations. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: Edit Cards project page.

– PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 16:51, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your Teahouse response

Where did you hear that World War II started in 1941, which you said here? If you were American I would interpret that to mean that is the date we were attacked and joined the war.

But your country was already involved before that. The official date is September 1, 1939.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 22:03, 18 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think you've got the wrong end of the stick, my friend. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:53, 18 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
What do you mean?— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 15:52, 19 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, wait, I looked at the current version of the draftarticle. It was corrected.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:00, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No, wait, I don't see the problem. It never stated (in the earlier draftversion I saw) that World War II started in 1941. It only said he served in the war.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:06, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Forgive me for not replying, nor do I plan to beyond this post. Please just be aware you have been reacting to broad feedback given c.3-4 months ago in good faith, and intended for another editor to consider as they saw fit. I really didn't want to nitpick over or have to justify such feedback. How the editor eventually edited is up to them. Rest assured, I do know when WWII started. Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 17:11, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry. I was just confused when I didn't see anything that was wrong. While I no longer answer questions on The Teahouse since my computer might not be able to handle the large amount of information and it's easier to keep up with what I haven't seen if I only read archives, I do inform people who don't seem to know their question was answered, and sometimes I get asked for advice or know what additional advice they need. It's helpful to know what advice is being given, but it's tricky when you can't see why the advice was given.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:12, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Personal thanks and clarification

Hi Nick!, I wanted to thank you regarding your response to the OCD issue. I can assure you assure you you won't have problems with me, at most, I'd repeat a sentence in the Current Events section where I do most of my work in here, but I quickly remove it, or it's removed by others. Some may not understand it but it's actually out my control. Though I promise I promise to behave at best as I can. Thank you for your kind understanding. :) - Iván - --CoryGlee (talk) 20:15, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@CoryGlee: Oh, I really do hope you didn't think I was suggesting for one moment that everyone with such issues/abilities is a problem editor - and certainly not you. In fact, I read Wikipedia is ideally suited to take great advantage of many of their unique abilities. As I think I said, what I don't feel WMF is good at is helping people like me (white, male, middle class, middle-aged) understand the needs and abilities of our broad spectrum of editor skills. None of us can help having our own inbuilt perspectives on life; we each need to help one another become the best we can be. Kind regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:25, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I thanked you by Wikiedit, but wanted to make it clear that no, I didn't take it as you referring to me as a problem editor my friend :). I just wanted, wanted to make it clear, on the internet I just repeat words but try not to. To. LOL. Thank you again, and great article about the autism spectrum, Wikipedia is really inclusive! :) --CoryGlee (talk) 00:09, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

TheWikiWizard - October 2019

Hello, Nick Moyes! Here is the September 2019 issue of TheWikiWizard.

We hope you like this month's issue! If you'd like to discuss this issue, please go to this issue's talk page. Happy Reading! --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 01:43, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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@Thegooduser and DannyS712: Once again, thank you for your efforts on The WikiWizard. Alsays great to see it! Nick Moyes (talk) 06:33, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank You! Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 23:29, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not quite a wikibreak, but...

On your user page, you state "...up to summer 2019 I shall have less time for Wikipedia work". Summer's already over. Would you mind changing that? Interstellarity (talk) 16:45, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No. I'll change it when I choose to, not on request. Thank you. Nick Moyes (talk) 20:02, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Dream Cave

Hello! Your submission of Dream Cave at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:21, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Review newsletter November 2019

Hello Nick Moyes,

This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon.

Getting the queue to 0

There are now 811 holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action.
Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays.
Want to join? Consider adding the NPP Pledge userbox.
Our next newsletter will announce the winners of some really cool awards.

Coordinator

Admin Barkeep49 has been officially invested as NPP/NPR coordinator by a unanimous consensus of the community. This is a complex role and he will need all the help he can get from other experienced reviewers.

This month's refresher course

Paid editing is still causing headaches for even our most experienced reviewers: This official Wikipedia article will be an eye-opener to anyone who joined Wikipedia or obtained the NPR right since 2015. See The Hallmarks to know exactly what to look for and take time to examine all the sources.

Tools
  • It is now possible to select new pages by date range. This was requested by reviewers who want to patrol from the middle of the list.
  • It is now also possible for accredited reviewers to put any article back into the New Pages Feed for re-review. The link is under 'Tools' in the side bar.
Reviewer Feedback

Would you like feedback on your reviews? Are you an experienced reviewer who can give feedback to other reviewers? If so there are two new feedback pilot programs. New Reviewer mentorship will match newer reviewers with an experienced reviewer with a new reviewer. The other program will be an occasional peer review cohort for moderate or experienced reviewers to give feedback to each other. The first cohort will launch November 13.

Second set of eyes
  • Not only are New Page Reviewers the guardians of quality of new articles, they are also in a position to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged for deletion and maintenance and that new authors are not being bitten. This is an important feature of your work, especially while some routine tagging for deletion can still be carried out by non NPR holders and inexperienced users. Read about it at the Monitoring the system section in the tutorial. If you come across such editors doing good work, don't hesitate to encourage them to apply for NPR.
  • Do be sure to have our talk page on your watchlist. There are often items that require reviewers' special attention, such as to watch out for pages by known socks or disruptive editors, technical issues and new developments, and of course to provide advice for other reviewers.
Arbitration Committee

The annual ArbCom election will be coming up soon. All eligible users will be invited to vote. While not directly concerned with NPR, Arbcom cases often lead back to notability and deletion issues and/or actions by holders of advanced user rights.

Community Wish list

There is to be no wish list for WMF encyclopedias this year. We thank Community Tech for their hard work addressing our long list of requirements which somewhat overwhelmed them last year, and we look forward to a successful completion.

To opt-out of future mailings, you can remove yourself here

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:33, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – November 2019

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2019).

Guideline and policy news

  • A related RfC is seeking the community's sentiment for a binding desysop procedure.

Arbitration

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:15, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2019-45

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • At Special:Contributions you could see up to 5000 edits at the same time if you edited the URL. This has been lowered to 500. This is to stop requests which break the sites. [13]

Changes later this week

  • MediaWiki:ipb-default-expiry can set the default length to block a user for your wiki. You will be able to use MediaWiki:ipb-default-expiry-ip to set a different default block length for IP editors. [14]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 November. It will be on all wikis from 7 November (calendar).

Meetings

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16:48, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

adoption request.

im looking to be adopted. another user is pinging you atm about this. sorry to bother you. DarknessHorses1989 (talk) 19:19, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I will try and answer you on your own talk page. Give me a bit of time, though, please. Nick Moyes (talk) 20:26, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

Hi Nick Moyes, Thank you for your work over at Murray Edwards College, Cambridge, and for the thanks. If the sources don't work out, feel free to remove. Otherwise, I think it's fixed now. :) Zanygenius(talk to me!)(email me!) 00:28, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No, that's fine. Thank you for reverting my edit and for then for adding sources. That's how Wikipedia rolls! Best, Nick Moyes (talk) 00:29, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A survey to improve the community consultation outreach process

Hello!

The Wikimedia Foundation is seeking to improve the community consultation outreach process for Foundation policies, and we are interested in why you didn't participate in a recent consultation that followed a community discussion you’ve been part of.

Please fill out this short survey to help us improve our community consultation process for the future. It should only take about three minutes.

The privacy policy for this survey is here. This survey is a one-off request from us related to this unique topic.

Thank you for your participation, Kbrown (WMF) 10:45, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Workshop for the creation of new Portal Guidelines

Hello Nick Moyes. There is currently a workshop going on about the creation of a new Portal Guideline: User talk:Scottywong/Portal guideline workspace. Your insights and ideas would be appreciated. --Hecato (talk) 16:40, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2019-47

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

Changes later this week

  • You can soon vote on proposals for the Community Wishlist Survey. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can vote on proposals from 20 November to 2 December. This year the wishlist will focus on Wikibooks, Wiktionary, Wikiquote, Wikisource, Wikiversity, Wikispecies, Wikivoyage and Wikinews. You can read more about the format for this year.
  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Meetings

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20:17, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

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Editor of the Week

Editor of the Week
Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week in recognition of helping Newcomers adjust and grow. Thank you for the great contributions! (courtesy of the Wikipedia Editor Retention Project)

User:Clovermoss submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:

I nominate Nick Moyes to be Editor of the Week for his 10 year effort in helping newcomers adjust to Wikipedia. He is incredibly welcoming to new editors, going above and beyond normal to help, and is always willing to share his knowledge and experience. He is the top editor for the WP:Teahouse, making over 1,800 edits to the project page. He's also made improvements to the project itself and has contributed to many nuanced discussions in order to do so. Nick Moyes is also an adopter in the Adopt-A-User program, and I'm one of his three adoptees. Nick Moyes is a talented editor with expertise and interests in several areas. Falconry, Flora and Mountain climbing are just a few. Nick has also organised Glam events in RL, and generally promoted and supported Wikipedia in the real world. I have to be concise, even here, as Nick has made so many valuable contributions that it's almost impossible to summarize the quality of everything he's done.

You can copy the following text to your user page to display a user box proclaiming your selection as Editor of the Week: 

{{User:UBX/EoTWBox}}

Thanks again for your efforts! ―Buster7 ☎ 14:54, 24 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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