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[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_adminship/Daffy123&diff=903011066&oldid=903009996 Mr. Reputable].--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 23:10, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_adminship/Daffy123&diff=903011066&oldid=903009996 Mr. Reputable].--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 23:10, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
*Well deserved, of course. [[User:Usedtobecool]], my reputable days are over, but that's OK. To answer one of your questions, Eric C. and I go back a long time, we have written together, including some things that we are still proud of. That Eric would possibly violate a topic ban isn't necessarily something I need to involve myself in: he is probably the most-watched editor on Wikipedia, and as you saw was dragged to arbitration immediately. Plus, I hadn't seen him in a while--and seeing an old friend again is always a cause for you. When you get to be our age you'll appreciate that more, perhaps. Thanks Bbb--you know I am always happy to see your comments. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies#top|talk]]) 00:57, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

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Note to self

Category:Articles with a promotional tone from December 2017

Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda

Martinevans123 (Santa's Hard Brexit Grotto) ... sends you ...


... warmest seasonal wishes for ...... Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda.

Merry Christmas Baby... and hoping that you have a good New Year  !!

Merry Christmas !!!

CAPTAIN RAJU(T) is wishing you a Merry Christmas!

This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

Spread the Christmas cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas3}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

You can help Drmies retain that youth cred, lurkers.

… and you can have the kudos of doing better than I did, too, for whatever that is worth. ☺

We don't want xyr fellow youths to find Drmies editing any more articles about very dead people, especially very dead people where Doktoro has to consider the moral qualities and large muscular person (and indeed sweet voice and missing teeth) of a man that Joseph Cooper Walker had never met and credited a "friend" for knowledge thereof. Doktoro does not need such stimulation at xyr age.Doktoro's fellow youths do not rispec' knowing the teeth of very dead people, and rispec' from one's peer group is important. Doktoro is neither friend of Walker nor Dorothy.

So gently guide Dr mi estas away, and shield xyr eyes; and please find a historian who does not simply regurgitate a clearly unreliable 18th century memoir. You might observe that I have found a clearly annoyed Ulsterman that doesn't like the memoir, and quite a lot of people over the centuries that have plagiarized it without attribution. So the bar is rather higher than an off-handed Google Books search now. Those of you with High Beaming, Tex-Mex Lexus, JSTORrery, and the like might care to use your exceptional capabilities.

Uncle G (talk) 10:46, 2 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There was once a collector named Ralph, who had a Bronze horn on a shelf. —

This article is about the Army major, for his grand-nephew the major-general see Ralph Ouseley.

Ralph Ouseley (1739-05-07[1][2]–1803[2]) was an Irish antiquarian and major in the British Army.

Family

His brother was John, who was father to Gideon Ouseley and grandfather to major-general Ralph Ouseley.

Ralph himself had several children by two wives. By his first wife Elizabeth Holland of Limerick (whom he married on 1763-04-01) he had three daughters and two sons, William who became an orientalist and Gore who became a Baronet.[1][2] Elizabeth died on 1782-11-28, and he took a second wife, Mary Collins, with whom he only had 1 surviving child, Joseph Walker Jasper Ouseley who also became an orientalist.[2]

He lived in Limerick and in Dunmore, County Galway.[1]

Antiquarianism

Ralph was a member of the Royal Irish Academy and was a collector and an antiquarian.[1]

He was published several times in the Transactions of the Academy, including for example Ouseley 1788 which recounted his discovery of three Later Bronze Age horns in Carrigogunnell, County Limerick.[1] A partial account of his personal collection of antiquities was reported by Charles Etienne Coquebert de Montbret, who visited him in 1790.[1]

References

  1. ^ a b c d e f Cahill 1993, p. 5.
  2. ^ a b c d Foster 1881, p. 477. sfn error: multiple targets (2×): CITEREFFoster1881 (help)
Reference bibliography
  • Cahill, Mary (1993). "Some unrecorded Bronze Age gold ornaments from County Limerick". North Munster Antiquarian Journal. 35: 5–22. {{cite journal}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • Foster, Joseph (1881). "Ouseley". The Peerage, Baronetage, and Knightage of the British Empire. Vol. 2. Nichols and Sons. {{cite encyclopedia}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)

Further reading

This submission to Articles for creation will be rejected by Doktoro for not rhyming.

— He said to his son, "Look what we've done! —

Joseph Walker Jasper Ouseley (1800-06-21[1]–November 1889[1]) was a British orientalist and a colonel in the British Army.

The son of Ralph Ouseley by his second wife Mary Collins, Joseph was educated in Limerick.[1][2] He joined the British Army as an ensign in 1819, in which he reached the rank of colonel by the time that he retired.[2][1] He never saw combat.[3] After being posted to the Bengal European Regiment in India, he became a military attaché in oriental languages, having tutored himself during the sea voyage from home in 1820 and then having attended the College of Fort William in Calcutta, from which he graduated with honours in Arabic and Persian.[2][1][3]

He became a professor of Arabic, Bengali, Maharati, and Persian at the College of Fort William in 1825, and was Superintendent of the Mysore Princes from 1838 to 1844.[1] Returning home to Britain in 1844, he became an examiner at Haileybury College until 1859, and then from 1862 to 1883 was a civil service examiner in Arabic and Persian languages.[2][1]

The Joseph Walker Jasper Ouseley scholarships to the School of Oriental and African Studies at the University of London, intended to fund the studies of Arabic, Persian, Hindustani, and other languages, were endowed in his name by Mary and Louisa Ouseley.

References

  1. ^ a b c d e f g Riddick 1998, p. 279.
  2. ^ a b c d Foster 1881, p. 477. sfn error: multiple targets (2×): CITEREFFoster1881 (help)
  3. ^ a b Ouseley.
Reference bibliography

Further reading

  • Cust, R.N. (1890). "Notes and News". Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society. 22: 217 et seq. {{cite journal}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • Buckland, Charles Edward (1906). "Ouseley, Joseph W. J.". Dictionary of Indian Biography. London: Swan Sonnenschein. p. 325. {{cite encyclopedia}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
This submission to Articles for creation is not modern enough for Dr mi estas. Come in to the 20th century, dude!

— I'll not keep the news to myself."

Maybe someone else will have more Limericks for Doktoro. Uncle G (talk) 18:41, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Very nicely done, Uncle. Bravo, and thank you. Drmies (talk) 21:41, 9 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
There once was a man from Nantucket
Whose work was so fine that he stuck it.
He just said, counting stars,
As he sat on his arse,
"If it's nommed for delete, I'll say file a complaint at AN/I, thanks!"
Martinevans123 (talk) 18:58, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

An Ulsterman named Francis Bigger …

It is because you like Limericks. So there were three Limericks for you. Uncle G (talk) 00:53, 9 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This page is about the antiquarian from Belfast. For the Irish politician from Belfast that he is confused with, see Joseph Biggar.

Francis Joseph Bigger (1863[1]–1926-12-09[1][2], both in Belfast[1]) was an Irish antiquarian, revivalist, solicitor, architect, author, editor, Member of the Royal Irish Academy, and Fellow of the Royal Society of Antiquaries of Ireland. His collected library, now distributed across several public institutions, comprised more than 18 thousand books, journals, letters, photographs, sketches, maps, and other materials. His house in Belfast was a gathering place for Irish nationalist politicians, artists, scholars, and others. He was a prolific sponsor and promoter of Gaelic culture, authored many works of his own, founded (or co-founded) several institutions, and revived and edited the Ulster Journal of Archaeology.

Namesake confusion

The Belfast politician Joseph Biggar changed the spelling of his surname from Bigger to Biggar (when he converted to Catholicism), which caused people some confusion in the spelling of Francis Joseph Bigger's surname.[2] It is spelled Bigger.[2]

Life

Bigger was born in 1863, in Belfast on Little Donegal Street.[2] He was educated at the Royal Belfast Academical Institution, which had been founded by his grandfather in 1810, and one of whoe governors was his father.[2]

He joined the Belfast Naturalists' Field Club, and was later its secretary and its president.[2] He became a solicitor in 1888,[1] and was also a freemason.[3] He also helped to organize the Glens Feis, a feis at Cushendall, out of a desire to promote Gaelic culture that also saw him join, and become a member of the executive committee of, the Gaelic League.[2][3]

He revived the Ulster Journal of Archaeology, after a hiatus of 30 years, which he then edited from 1894 to 1914.[1][2] His interest in archeology remained noted by archeologists a century later, with sites that he had dug being known informally as "well and truly Biggered".[4]

In 1911 he bought Jordan's Castle in Ardglass which he restored, and bequeathed to the state.[2]

As an architect, he wrote a complaint to the Irish Independent, published on 1907-03-02, about plans for some cottages; in response to which the Independent invited him to present his own plans, which he drew up and the Independent then published as Labourers' Cottages for Ireland (Bigger 1907).[5] Writer Jonathan Bell characterized these as the plans of an "eccentric antiquarian", as they deliberately excluded sinks from the design, Bigger claiming that "washing up is usually done in a bucket".[6]

Regular visitors to his home in Belfast, Ardrigh House number 737b on Antrim Road, were Douglas Hyde, Roger Casement, and Francis McPeake, for the latter of whom Bigger arranged lessons in Irish traditional pipe music from John O'Reilly of Galway, paying for the lodgings in Belfast of McPeake and O'Reilly, and giving additional money to O'Reilly's family.[2][4] (A description of Ardrigh House can be found in chapter 4 of Joseph Connolly's Memoirs, Connolly, J. Anthony Gaughan 1996, p. 76, listed in further reading.[4] Bigger himself spelled its name "Airdrie" in correspondence[4], and it was demolished in 1986 in order to build a block of flats.[7])

There is a long list of such visitors, including Stephen Gwynn and Padraic Colum.[8] Bigger founded the Ulster Literary Theatre in 1902 in partnership with another such, Bulmer Hobson.[9] He financed another visitor's, Herbert Hughes's, Songs of Uladh which was published in 1904 and was a the result of a holiday to Donegal taken by Bigger, who brought along Hughes and the two brothers John Patrick Campbell and Joseph Campbell.[8] Hughes noted down the meloies of various folk songs during the holiday, which were then published in the Songs with words by Joseph and illustrative woodcuts by John.[8]

He strove to improve the standards of public houses, founding the Ulster Public House Association (a.k.a. the Ulster Public House Trust or Ulster Public House Reform Association).[2][4]

Works

A strong supporter of the revival of Irish language and culture, he wrote on those and many aspects of the archaeology of Northern Ireland.[1] His best-known work is The Ulster Land War of 1770, and he also edited and contributed articles to the aforementioned Ulster Journal of Archaeology.[1]

Other works include his booklet The Hills of Holy Ireland, a diatribe against the British rule of Ireland that was based upon a lecture that Bigger gave in the Linen Hall Library, which was on display in the Belfast Central Library from 2007 to 2008 as part of an exhibition.[2] He also wrote pamphlets entitled Irish Penal Crosses and The Northern Leaders of 98, a novel Aeneas O’Haughan, a collection of fireside stories Four Shots from Dawn.[4]

With Herbert Hughes, Bigger also made a collection of just under 175 rubbings of the heraldic designs engraved on gravestones in County Antrim, which they published in the Ulster Journal of Archaeology in 1900 and 1901.[10]

There is a partial list of Works by Francis Joseph Bigger at Open Library. Others not listed there and not aforementioned include:

John Smyth Crone edited his Articles and Sketches (Bigger 1927), a selection of just some of his work, that was published after his death.[11]

Other people's works that they dedicated to Bigger include Cathal O'Byrne’s As I Roved Out and George A. Birmingham’s The Northern Iron.[4]

Collections

A catalogue of his personal collection at his death is in Hackett, Moore & Lauder 1930, which runs to 302 pages. This comprised a significant fraction of the 1956 Catalogue of Belfast Central Library[4], the Bigger Collection having been presented to the Belfast Central Library by Bigger's brother (Lietenant Colonel F.C. Bigger) a year after his death.[2][3][11] The collection in the BCL runs to 10,000 books and journals, 3,500 letters of correspondence, and 180 boxes of scrapbooks, maps, and pamphlets.[2] A further collection of 5,000 photographs is held separately at the Ulster Museum.[2]

The bookplates that he used for his books have the motto: "Giving and Forgiving".[2]

The curator of the 2007–2008 exhibition about him at the Belfast Central Library, Roger Dixon, described him as a "one man Irish Cultural Institute" in an accompanying pamphlet entitled Ireland's Cultural Visionary.[2]

In the National Library of Ireland, photographs of his home, family, and associates are Ms. 21,543; and miscellaneous papers of his are Ms. 21,542. Other papers of his are held at the Linen Hall Library and at the Public Records Office of Northern Ireland.[11]

References

  1. ^ a b c d e f g Cleeve & Brady 1985.
  2. ^ a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q Clements 2007.
  3. ^ a b c Bardon 1992, p. 420.
  4. ^ a b c d e f g h Stewart.
  5. ^ Gailey 1984, p. 274.
  6. ^ Bell 2002, p. 50.
  7. ^ Bardon 1992, p. 419.
  8. ^ a b c Dibble 2013, p. 60.
  9. ^ Bardon 1992, p. 421.
  10. ^ Patterson 2012, p. 136.
  11. ^ a b c McCorley.
Reference bibliography

Further reading

In dictionaries of biography
See also the ones in the reference bibliography.
Contemporary obituaries in scholarly and professional journals
  • "Obituary: Francis Joseph Bigger". Irish Builder (68): 964. 1926-12-25. {{cite journal}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • "Obituary of Francis Joseph Bigger". Journal of the County Louth Archaeological Society. 6 (2): 103–105. December 1926. {{cite journal}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)CS1 maint: date and year (link)
  • "Obituary of Francis Joseph Bigger". The Journal of the Royal Society of Antiquaries of Ireland. 6. 17: 73. 1927. {{cite journal}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)CS1 maint: date and year (link)
  • "Obituary of Francis Joseph Bigger". The Breifny Antiquarian Society's journal. 3: 227–228. 1927. {{cite journal}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • Crone, John Smyth (1927). "Necrology: Francis Joseph Bigger. With portrait". Journal of the Cork Historical and Archaeological Society. 2. 32: 113–117. {{cite journal}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • C., A.A. (January 1927). "In memoriam: Francis Joseph Bigger. With portrait". The Irish naturalists' journal. 1 (9): 179. {{cite journal}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)CS1 maint: date and year (link)
Other biographies
  • Dixon, Roger (July 1998). Moffatt, Chris (ed.). "Apostle of the Living Legend: Francis Joseph Bigger, Belfast's turn of the century cultural Don Quixote". Fortnight (372): 12–14.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: date and year (link)
  • Dixon, Roger; Dixon, Terry (Spring 1994). "F. J. Bigger, Romantic, Enthusiast, and Antiquary". Causeway: 5–7. {{cite journal}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)CS1 maint: date and year (link)
  • Beiner, Guy (2012). "Revisiting F. J. Bigger: A "Fin-de-Siècle" Flourish of Antiquarian-Folklore Scholarship in Ulster". Béaloideas. 80. Folklore of Ireland Society: 142–162. {{cite journal}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • McBrinn, Joseph (2016). "Francis Joseph Bigger (1863–1926)". In Quinn, James; Maume, Patrick (eds.). Ulster Political Lives, 1886–1921. Dublin: Royal Irish Academy. pp. 49–52. ISBN 9781908996855. {{cite book}}: External link in |chapterurl= (help); Invalid |ref=harv (help); Unknown parameter |chapterurl= ignored (|chapter-url= suggested) (help)
  • Phoenix, Eamon (2005). "Francis Joseph Bigger: Historian, Gaelic Leaguer, and Protestant Nationalist". In Phoenix, Eamon; O'Cleireachain, Padraic (eds.). Feis Na NGleann: A Century of Gaelic Culture in the Antrim Glens. Ulster Historical Foundation. pp. 65–77. ISBN 9781903688496. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
On Bigger's collection, house, and his individual works
This submission to Articles for creation is not a Limerick. He was an Ulsterman.

{{Irish-bio-stub}}

This one is huge. The lurkers might want to chip in here. I've given you a good substub. But there's no mention of Roddy McCorley, the granite block of St Patrick, the Gaelic football club, the Irish Folk Song Society, the Irish Peasant Home Industries, the Belfast Art Society, or the Irish Decorative Art Association. Uncle G (talk) 00:53, 9 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

… once went to school, and had a granddad.

David Bigger, Ulster merchant and grandfather of Francis Joseph Bigger, founded the Carnmoney Cotton Printing Mill, was one of the original governors of the Royal Belfast Academical Institution in 1910, and was one of the founders of the Linen Hall Library in Belfast.[1][2]

References

  1. ^ Phoenix 2005, p. 66. sfn error: multiple targets (2×): CITEREFPhoenix2005 (help)
  2. ^ Young 1892, p. 323. sfn error: multiple targets (2×): CITEREFYoung1892 (help)
Reference bibliography
  • Phoenix, Eamon (2005). "Francis Joseph Bigger: Historian, Gaelic Leaguer, and Protestant Nationalist". In Phoenix, Eamon; O'Cleireachain, Padraic (eds.). Feis Na NGleann: A Century of Gaelic Culture in the Antrim Glens. Ulster Historical Foundation. pp. 65–77. ISBN 9781903688496. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • Corporation of Belfast (1892). Young, Robert Magill (ed.). The Town Book of the Corporation of Belfast, 1613–1816, edited from the original, with chronological list of events, and notes. Belfast: Marcus Ward. (The Town Book of the Corporation of Belfast at the Internet Archive)

Further reading

{{Irish-very-dead-person-bio-stub}}

This submission to Articles for creation is a bit thin. Perhaps what we want is the biographer, instead.

Robert Magill Young (1851[1]–1925[1]) was an Irish architect, historian, author, antiquarian, justice of the peace, member of the Royal Irish Academy, and a Fellow of the Royal Society of Antiquaries of Ireland.[1] He co-edited the Ulster Journal of Archaeology with Francis Joseph Bigger from 1895.[1]

His father was Robert Young, one of the partners in Ulster architectural firm Young and Mackenzie, a firm that Robert Magill later joined.[2]

Works

References

  1. ^ a b c d Newmann.
  2. ^ Curl 2006, p. 872.
Reference bibliography

Further reading

In dictionaries of biography
See also the ones in the reference bibliography.
  • "Young, Robert Magill". Dictionary of Irish Architects 1720–1940. Irish Architectural Archive. {{cite encyclopedia}}: External link in |chapterurl= (help); Invalid |ref=harv (help); Unknown parameter |chapterurl= ignored (|chapter-url= suggested) (help)
Other biographies

{{Irish-very-dead-person-bio-stub}}

This submission to Articles for creation is a bit thin, too. But at least the trail of dangling hyperlinks finally peters out at Arthur Deane, Kate Newmann, and James Stevens Curl, ne?

The Ulster Literary Theatre has bypassed Articles for creation, because it was about plays and writing and history and stuff, and no-one is interested in that here. I argued that Doktoro might be tricked into it if it were misrepresented as popular culture … of 1909, having xem think that it would help that youth cred, but failed to make the case. Uncle G (talk) 03:46, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Ha, so I saw that the day after you put it up! I did see it. No, biographies are my favorite, as everyone knows, and dead Irish people, well, it just doesn't get better than that. Drmies (talk) 20:24, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Course correction

No, no, no, Doktoro! If you want the youth cred then you need to focus upon finding sources for Jada Facer (AfD discussion) not very dead priests. Do not even let the fact that those of us without all of that High Beaming, Tex-Mex Lexus, and JSTORrery cannot read the likes of doi:10.2307/29740597, whereas you can, distract you. Nor http://allhallows.ie/cms/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/The-Missionary.pdf . Nor even David Bigger and Robert Magill Young. Uncle G (talk) 09:27, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Look, Uncle, I'm not trying to get youth cred here--I get plenty of that when I wear my Migos shirt to class. I happen to have an interest in missionizing; the Irish have been at it for over a millennium, and if I ever drag myself away from Wikipedia I'll be writing about German missionaries in Africa. Drmies (talk) 16:25, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's sad: my JSTOR lite doesn't have that journal. Drmies (talk) 16:28, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Careful

The wikified law of 22 Prairial can be directed at typo fixers too, you know  :) ——SerialNumber54129 18:13, 12 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Adriaan de Bruin

On 13 June 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Adriaan de Bruin, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Adriaan de Bruin was enslaved in Africa but ended up in Hoorn in the Dutch Republic, where he married a local woman and ran a tobacco shop? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Adriaan de Bruin. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Adriaan de Bruin), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent stats for a good one! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:47, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Holy moly, Gerda Arendt--thanks for all your help! Drmies (talk) 13:44, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
moar moly: the young Nepalese human rights' activist which you helped also made the stats, and guess what, even a dancer praised by Max Brod who (the dancer) had a tough life due to the Nazi regime. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:27, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I saw that. Ha, Wikipedia is not for activism--but still. Drmies (talk) 19:57, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Words in Foreign

If fr:Les Cent Contes drolatiques#Études is anything to go by, we are missing Les Cent Contes drolatiques. What we lack is a French Professor. Uncle G (talk) 00:28, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • We used to have one (or, a student at least)--I forgot their name. Drmies (talk) 01:14, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ha, what are the odds? Today I had a copy of the Decamerone in my hand, the Norton Critical Edition. Drmies (talk) 01:17, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • You know, I wouldn't mind writing that up if I actually read the book. Drmies (talk) 01:23, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Pitcher (container) and Jug

Hi Drmies, Hope you're well! As real life & the backstage wiki are just tooo exciting at the moment, I've been taking a look at these - like all our basic tableware articles they are pretty shit. So, in American, is there a minimum size for a pitcher? What do Americans call the little milk jugs in a tea set or at a restaurant?

I've also recently got to know about the charming Dutch Maiden (Nederlandse Maagd), after starting (yup, gulp) Personification, and adding to the riduculously-named Liberty (goddess), a relative of the Maiden. I bet there's a lot more to say on these, if you feel like it. Johnbod (talk) 15:15, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe a creamer or just a pitcher. Geoff | Who, me? 15:48, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see little milk jugs here: Americans are too obsessed with GERMS and whatnot. At Starbuck's and such places they keep the milk/cream (really, half and half) in thermos bottles that hold maybe three or four cups. At many other occasions it's just powdered stuff--I know, barbaric. I'd say something isn't a pitcher unless it holds at least a quart, and I think it must have a wide top, so you can stir the lemonade or sweet tea. A jug, isn't that something with an ear? Shaped like a gourd? As for Dutch maidens, besides my mother and aunts I know only one: Frau Antje. Shame I never got that on the front page. Drmies (talk) 16:33, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Pitcher (container) and Jug should be merged into a single article on containers for serving beverages. bd2412 T 16:47, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with bd2412 here. The articles are redundant as heck. Wikipedia articles are about concepts, not words, and it's largely the same type of container. The only real difference is that they're all called jugs in the UK, while the US call one with a large top opening a pitcher (and thereby the use of "jug" implies a smaller opening like a milk jug or growler.) still not enough to need two articles. oknazevad (talk) 16:59, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! A merge is an option, especially as ewer goes to American jugs. Creamer could join them, with cow creamer kept apart. Johnbod (talk) 17:20, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you all. See, collaborative editing can work. Drmies (talk) 04:14, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That would be all fine and dandy except …

Two changes in form may be noted. […] The second is the change from the spouted pitcher to the medieval jug.
— Cherry, John (1991). "Pottery and Tile". In Blair, W. John (ed.). English Medieval Industries: Craftsmen, Techniques, Products. A&C Black. p. 205. ISBN 9780907628873. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)

That is from a chapter of an English book by someone who used to be keeper of Medieval and Later Antiquities in the British Museum, talking about Stamford Ware. Xyr statement would not make sense if there were no technical difference in U.K. English between a pitcher and a jug. Uncle G (talk) 23:55, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You've got mail

Hello, Drmies. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.Doug Weller talk 17:08, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Doug, I'm wondering if our email server doesn't simply have problems with gmail accounts. I've emailed the head for ITS, and the helpdesk, but haven't heard back yet. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 19:55, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nah. I get too many e-mail I don't want for such problems to exist. Of course, I don't what kind of problems you're talking about, but lately I barely know what anyone is talking about. BTW, I have a nasty sore throat. Fix it! --Bbb23 (talk) 15:47, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Calling me a poof doesn't help.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:09, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
lets see if some pixie dust will help. I hope you get to feeling better soon Bbb23. MarnetteD|Talk 18:25, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion

Information icon Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 01:59, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Is it a bagless English Professor Vacuum?

If I mention this here, at the very eye of the cyclone that is attempting to suck the English Professors in, they will circle around it and never be able to reach it. Books being blown around by the English Professor Vacuum are a dangerous thing, anyway. They could hit someone. Uncle G (talk) 13:42, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

COI/sockpuppet account

Hi, I see you've edited the Seth Abramson page and reverted poorly sourced puffery from the page in the past. I strongly suspect that the account SanFran55 is a COI account or a sockpuppet of this account[1]. This account exclusively adds poorly sourced puffery to the Abramson page, as well as attempts to remove RS content which does not reflect well on Abramson (e.g. his conspiracy theorizing). Is this something you can look into? Snooganssnoogans (talk) 18:25, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • In principle yes, but I've edited the article a bit just now, and it's probably more useful to ping the ones who were active on the SPI; I think CU was run, and maybe there's a record... Sorry, dinner time now! Drmies (talk) 22:51, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What to do now?

For the past week or so Joseroyal has my attention. He comes up with rather useless edits. I went to the whole process of giving advice and giving warnings, but he seems totally unresponsive. Besides adding pre and post nominals to articles, he also adds unused fields to infoboxes, often just with the value "m". And today he started removing valid red links.

I can go on with bluntly reverting him, but I doubt that he will learn anything from that. Do you have any trick in the book to get the attention of the person behind the account? The Banner talk 08:35, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Changing Jesuit high schools, and trade schools, into universities seems to be systematic and not a passing thing. Uncle G (talk) 09:21, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • OK but what's so bad here? Anthony Raj is indeed the current principal, according to the website. I don't see problems with the infobox parameters--and Uncle, maybe they changed the infobox template because they were looking for some parameters that weren't in the other one? They do appear to be totally uncommunicative, and that's a bad thing; that, combined with the edit warring and the repeated warnings for those nominals, is highly disruptive. I think you can tell them that, and such continued disruption will lead to a block. Drmies (talk) 14:41, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding sandbox page deletion

Just saw the communication by your authority. I have read the links attached. I wish to add that I am a learner and not a paid editor. I am also not Shripad Vaidya. As per the guidelines received from you it is correct that article / page created by me in my user sandbox seems to be a resume rather than article. I will study other articles format and will change the info accordingly. Please not that I will never try to publish this article until and unless I correct all the points objected. But for that I need my written article back so as to get it corrected. It may take some time, may be few months, to complete it. Please guide how I can retrieve the article. MA$HRVA (User talk:MA$HRVA) Write Right!! 18:33, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Please ask the administrator who deleted it. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 00:10, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know …

… that when her doctor asked Patty Willis (AfD discussion) whether she could find his office she reportedly replied ″I landed a plane on Pico Boulevard, so I think I can find it with my car.″?

Uncle G (talk) 18:37, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) 1984?? Have you ever been to Pico Boulevard?--Bbb23 (talk) 00:53, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT 1...that Patty Willis and her sister Betsy Howes Sergeant were willed "one-half of my real and all my internal personal estate" by her mother's nephew Eliakim Willis, who also left his "wearing apparel" to his brothers Ebenezer and Jireh Willis, "to be equally divided between them"?
  • ALT1a that in Malden, Massachusetts, the generation preceding Patty Willis apparently gave their menfolk names like Eliakim and Jireh? Drmies (talk) 00:52, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Those alternatives simply don't fly. Uncle G (talk) 09:00, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Aw come on. "Internal personal estate"? ITS A WINNER. Drmies (talk) 15:04, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"Exhortation" as published in shape note form in William Hauser's The Hesperian Harp. "L.M." means long metre. The words here are by Isaac Watts.

Eliakim Doolittle (1772-08-29 in Cheshire, Connecticut[1] – April 1850 in Argyle, New York[1]), the younger brother of Amos Doolittle, first cousin of composers Reuben Munson and Amos Munson, and uncle of senator James R. Doolittle, was a composer, schoolteacher, and singing teacher.[1][2] His most well-known composition was the hymn tune "Exhortation",[3] a fuging tune that was first printed in The Musical Harmonist (Jenks 1800) and later included in The Sacred Harp.[4]

The son of Ambrose Doolittle and Martha Munson, he attended Yale University (then Yale College), gaining the reputation as a composer, but did not graduate, and became a school- and singing- teacher.[3][5] He married Hasadiah Fuller in 1811, with whom he had six children (1 son and 5 daughters), and lived in Hampton, New York.[3]

His Psalm Singer's Companion (Doolittle 1806) was 41 compositions (covering 48 pages) of psalm music for four voices,[5][3] out of a total of 45 works that he composed.[6]

Such works included Solemnity, another hymn tune published in Asahel Benham's Social Harmony in 1798, and the war song The Hornet Stung The Peacock that celebrated the sinking of HMS Peacock.[7]

Later in life he was to suffer from what is now understood to be dementia and lived in Pawlet, Vermont,[3] which 19th century chronicler of that village Hiel Hollister described graphically as "nervous and sensitive, impulsive and excitable, in tattered garb, with untrimmed locks and beard, in a state bordering on insanity, he wandered through our streets for many a year",[2][3] before entering the Washington County poorhouse in Argyle where he eventually died.[3]

References

Cross links

  1. ^ a b c Britton, Lowens & Crawford 1990, p. 254.
  2. ^ a b Hollister 1867, p. 71.
  3. ^ a b c d e f g Steel & Hulan 2010, p. 112.
  4. ^ Hatchett 2003, p. 121.
  5. ^ a b O'Brien 2008, p. 14.
  6. ^ van Boer 2012, p. 164.
  7. ^ Gleason & Becker 1981, p. 55.

Reference bibliography

  • Britton, Allen Perdue; Lowens, Irving; Crawford, Richard (1990). "Eliakim Doolittle". American sacred music imprints, 1698–1810: a bibliography. American Antiquarian Society. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • Gleason, Harold; Becker, Warren (1981). Music Literature Outlines. Vol. 3 (2nd ed.). Frangipani Press. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • Hatchett, Marion J. (2003). "Commentary on Tunes and Texts: Exhortation". A Companion to the New Harp of Columbia. University of Tennessee Press. ISBN 9781572332034. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • Hollister, Hiel (1867). "Music". Pawlet for One Hundred Years. Albany, New York: J. Munsell. pp. 69–73. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • O'Brien, Donald C. (2008). Amos Doolittle: Engraver of the New Republic. Oak Knoll Press. ISBN 9781584562061. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • Steel, David Warren; Hulan, Richard H. (2010). "Biographical sketches of the composers". The Makers of the Sacred Harp. Music in American life. University of Illinois Press. ISBN 9780252077609. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • van Boer, Bertil (2012). "Doolittle, Eliakim". Historical Dictionary of Music of the Classical Period. Scarecrow Press. ISBN 9780810873865. {{cite encyclopedia}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)

Further reading

  • Fawcett-Yeske, Maxine; Kroeger, Karl, eds. (2011). "Introduction to this volume". Eliakim Doolittle (1772–1850) and Timothy Olmsted (1759–1848): The Collected Works. Music of the New American Nation: Sacred Music from 1780 to 1820. Vol. 15. Routledge. pp. xxi–xxiv. ISBN 9781135623777. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • Doolittle, Eliakim (1806). The Psalm Singer's Companion. New Haven. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • Jenks, Stephen (1800). The Musical Harmonist, Containing Concise and Easy Rules of Music, Together with a Collection of the Most Approved Psalm and Hymn Tunes, Fitted to the Various Meters; Most of Which were Never Before Published. New Haven, Connecticut: Amos Doolittle. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
This submission to Articles for creation is about a teacher who writes; an alien idea here at AFC. It is yet another missing article that we did not even know to be missing. But it isn't David Bigger or Robert Magill Young, at least.

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MfD nomination of Wikipedia:Wikipedia does not need you

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Congratulations!

Mr. Reputable.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:10, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Well deserved, of course. User:Usedtobecool, my reputable days are over, but that's OK. To answer one of your questions, Eric C. and I go back a long time, we have written together, including some things that we are still proud of. That Eric would possibly violate a topic ban isn't necessarily something I need to involve myself in: he is probably the most-watched editor on Wikipedia, and as you saw was dragged to arbitration immediately. Plus, I hadn't seen him in a while--and seeing an old friend again is always a cause for you. When you get to be our age you'll appreciate that more, perhaps. Thanks Bbb--you know I am always happy to see your comments. Drmies (talk) 00:57, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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