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Redirects for discussion (RfD) is the place where potentially problematic redirects are discussed. Items usually stay listed for a week or so, after which they are deleted, kept, or retargeted.
- If you want to replace an unprotected redirect with an article, do not list it here. Turning redirects into articles is wholly encouraged. Be bold!
- If you want to move a page but a redirect is in the way, do not list it here. For non-controversial cases, place a technical request; if a discussion is required, then start a requested move.
- If you think a redirect points to the wrong target article, this is a good place to discuss what should be the proper target.
- Redirects should not be deleted just because they have no incoming links. Please do not use this as the only reason to delete a redirect. However, redirects that do have incoming links are sometimes deleted, so that is not a sufficient condition for keeping. (See § When should we delete a redirect? for more information.)
Please do not unilaterally rename or change the target of a redirect while it is under discussion. This adds unnecessary complication to the discussion for participants and closers.
Before listing a redirect for discussion
Please be aware of these general policies, which apply here as elsewhere:
- Wikipedia:Redirect – what redirects are, why they exist, and how they are used.
- Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion – which pages can be deleted without discussion; in particular the "General" and "Redirects" sections.
- Wikipedia:Deletion policy – how we delete things by consensus.
- Wikipedia:Guide to deletion – guidelines on discussion format and shorthand.
The guiding principles of RfD
- The purpose of a good redirect is to eliminate the possibility that readers will find themselves staring blankly at "Search results 1–10 out of 378" instead of the article they were looking for. If someone could plausibly enter the redirect's name when searching for the target article, it's a good redirect.
- Redirects are cheap. They take up little storage space and use very little bandwidth. It doesn't really hurt things if there are a few of them scattered around. On the flip side, deleting redirects is also cheap because recording the deletion takes up little storage space and uses very little bandwidth. There is no harm in deleting problematic redirects.
- If a good-faith RfD nomination proposes to delete a redirect and has no discussion after at least 7 days, the default result is delete.
- Redirects nominated in contravention of Wikipedia:Redirect will be speedily kept.
- RfD can also serve as a central discussion forum for debates about which page a redirect should target. In cases where retargeting the redirect could be considered controversial, it is advisable to leave a notice on the talk page of the redirect's current target page or the proposed target page to refer readers to the redirect's nomination to allow input and help form consensus for the redirect's target.
- Requests for deletion of redirects from one page's talk page to another's do not need to be listed here. Anyone can remove the redirect by blanking the page. The G6 criterion for speedy deletion may be appropriate.
- In discussions, always ask yourself whether or not a redirect would be helpful to the reader.
When should we delete a redirect?
This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Redirect/Deletion reasons. (edit | history) |
The major reasons why deletion of redirects is harmful are:
- a redirect may contain non-trivial edit history;
- if a redirect is reasonably old (or is the result of moving a page that has been there for quite some time), then it is possible that its deletion will break incoming links (such links coming from older revisions of Wikipedia pages, from edit summaries, from other Wikimedia projects or from elsewhere on the internet, do not show up in "What links here").
Therefore consider the deletion only of either harmful redirects or of recent ones.
Reasons for deleting
You might want to delete a redirect if one or more of the following conditions is met (but note also the exceptions listed below this list):
- The redirect page makes it unreasonably difficult for users to locate similarly named articles via the search engine. For example, if the user searches for "New Articles", and is redirected to a disambiguation page for "Articles", it would take much longer to get to the newly added articles on Wikipedia.
- The redirect might cause confusion. For example, if "Adam B. Smith" was redirected to "Andrew B. Smith", because Andrew was accidentally called Adam in one source, this could cause confusion with the article on Adam Smith, so the redirect should be deleted.
- The redirect is offensive or abusive, such as redirecting "Joe Bloggs is a Loser" to "Joe Bloggs" (unless "Joe Bloggs is a Loser" is legitimately discussed in the article), or "Joe Bloggs" to "Loser". (Speedy deletion criterion G10 and G3 may apply.) See also § Neutrality of redirects.
- The redirect constitutes self-promotion or spam. (Speedy deletion criterion G11 may apply.)
- The redirect makes no sense, such as redirecting "Apple" to "Orange". (Speedy deletion criterion G1 may apply.)
- It is a cross-namespace redirect out of article space, such as one pointing into the User or Wikipedia namespace. The major exception to this rule are the pseudo-namespace shortcut redirects, which technically are in the main article space. Some long-standing cross-namespace redirects are also kept because of their long-standing history and potential usefulness. "MOS:" redirects, for example, are an exception to this rule. (Note also the existence of namespace aliases such as WP:. Speedy deletion criterion R2 may apply if the target namespace is something other than Category:, Template:, Wikipedia:, Help:, or Portal:.)
- If the redirect is broken, meaning it redirects to an article that does not exist, it can be immediately deleted under speedy deletion criterion G8. You should check that there is not an alternative place it could be appropriately redirected to first and that it has not become broken through vandalism.
- If the redirect is a novel or very obscure synonym for an article name that is not mentioned in the target, it is unlikely to be useful. In particular, redirects in a language other than English to a page whose subject is unrelated to that language (or a culture that speaks that language) should generally not be created. (Implausible typos or misnomers are candidates for speedy deletion criterion R3, if recently created.)
- If the target article needs to be moved to the redirect title, but the redirect has been edited before and has a history of its own, then the title needs to be freed up to make way for the move. If the move is uncontroversial, tag the redirect for G6 speedy deletion, or alternatively (with the
suppressredirect
user right; available to page movers and admins), perform a round-robin move. If not, take the article to Requested moves. - If the redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject.
Reasons for not deleting
However, avoid deleting such redirects if:
- They have a potentially useful page history, or an edit history that should be kept to comply with the licensing requirements for a merge (see Wikipedia:Merge and delete). On the other hand, if the redirect was created by renaming a page with that name, and the page history just mentions the renaming, and for one of the reasons above you want to delete the page, copy the page history to the Talk page of the article it redirects to. The act of renaming is useful page history, and even more so if there has been discussion on the page name.
- They would aid accidental linking and make the creation of duplicate articles less likely, whether by redirecting a plural to a singular, by redirecting a frequent misspelling to a correct spelling, by redirecting a misnomer to a correct term, by redirecting to a synonym, etc. In other words, redirects with no incoming links are not candidates for deletion on those grounds because they are of benefit to the browsing user. Some extra vigilance by editors will be required to minimize the occurrence of those frequent misspellings in the article texts because the linkified misspellings will not appear as broken links; consider tagging the redirect with the {{R from misspelling}} template to assist editors in monitoring these misspellings.
- They aid searches on certain terms. For example, users who might see the "Keystone State" mentioned somewhere but do not know what that refers to will be able to find out at the Pennsylvania (target) article.
- Deleting redirects runs the risk of breaking incoming or internal links. For example, redirects resulting from page moves should not normally be deleted without good reason. Links that have existed for a significant length of time, including CamelCase links (e.g. WolVes) and old subpage links, should be left alone in case there are any existing links on external pages pointing to them. See also Wikipedia:Link rot § Link rot on non-Wikimedia sites.
- Someone finds them useful. Hint: If someone says they find a redirect useful, they probably do. You might not find it useful—this is not because the other person is being untruthful, but because you browse Wikipedia in different ways. Evidence of usage can be gauged by using the wikishark or pageviews tool on the redirect to see the number of views it gets.
- The redirect is to a closely related word form, such as a plural form to a singular form.
Neutrality of redirects
Just as article titles using non-neutral language are permitted in some circumstances, so are such redirects. Because redirects are less visible to readers, more latitude is allowed in their names, therefore perceived lack of neutrality in redirect names is not a sufficient reason for their deletion. In most cases, non-neutral but verifiable redirects should point to neutrally titled articles about the subject of the term. Non-neutral redirects may be tagged with {{R from non-neutral name}}
.
Non-neutral redirects are commonly created for three reasons:
- Articles that are created using non-neutral titles are routinely moved to a new neutral title, which leaves behind the old non-neutral title as a working redirect (e.g. Climategate → Climatic Research Unit email controversy).
- Articles created as POV forks may be deleted and replaced by a redirect pointing towards the article from which the fork originated (e.g. Barack Obama Muslim rumor → deleted and now redirected to Barack Obama religion conspiracy theories).
- The subject matter of articles may be represented by some sources outside Wikipedia in non-neutral terms. Such terms are generally avoided in Wikipedia article titles, per the words to avoid guidelines and the general neutral point of view policy. For instance the non-neutral expression "Attorneygate" is used to redirect to the neutrally titled Dismissal of U.S. attorneys controversy. The article in question has never used that title, but the redirect was created to provide an alternative means of reaching it because a number of press reports use the term.
The exceptions to this rule would be redirects that are not established terms and are unlikely to be useful, and therefore may be nominated for deletion, perhaps under deletion reason #3. However, if a redirect represents an established term that is used in multiple mainstream reliable sources, it should be kept even if non-neutral, as it will facilitate searches on such terms. Please keep in mind that RfD is not the place to resolve most editorial disputes.
Closing notes
- Details at Administrator instructions for RfD
Nominations should remain open, per policy, about a week before they are closed, unless they meet the general criteria for speedy deletion, the criteria for speedy deletion of a redirect, or are not valid redirect discussion requests (e.g. are actually move requests).
How to list a redirect for discussion
STEP I. | Tag the redirect(s).
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STEP II. | List the entry on RfD.
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STEP III. | Notify users.
It is generally considered good practice to notify the creator and main contributors of the redirect(s) that you nominate. may be placed on the creator/main contributors' user talk page to provide notice of the discussion. Please replace RedirectName with the name of the respective creator/main contributors' redirect and use an edit summary such as: Notice of redirect discussion at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion]]
Notices about the RfD discussion may also be left on relevant talk pages. |
- Please consider using What links here to locate other redirects that may be related to the one you are nominating. After going to the redirect target page and selecting "What links here" in the toolbox on the left side of your computer screen, select both "Hide transclusions" and "Hide links" filters to display the redirects to the redirect target page.
If this page has been recently modified, it may not reflect the most recent changes. Please purge this page to view the most recent changes. |
Current list
January 14
Eva Dennis
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 24#Eva Dennis
Picture(superstring)
Direwolf
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 24#Direwolf
Spezial:Beobachtungsliste
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 24#Spezial:Beobachtungsliste
Blue squirrel
Charles de Lannoy, 1st Prince of Sulmona.
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 24#Charles de Lannoy, 1st Prince of Sulmona.
January 13
Harbinger Community
Candidates for Speedy Deletion
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 21#Candidates for Speedy Deletion
Dunkin' (franchise)
Anglican Church
Sami Hyypiö
Mahtisaari
Harja Talonen
Pandawoman
Padme`
January 12
Hidden Fences
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 25#Hidden Fences
1,000,000 AD
1,000,000,000,000 AD
1,000,000,000 AD
1,000,000,000,000,000 AD
Eka-quicksilver
Something Strange About Marci
Isla de estabilidad
Direct (DJ)
List of aquarium fish (disambiguation)
Desexualization
Auto accessories
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 25#Auto accessories
Hurricane ida
MAKE THE PIE HIGHER
Quote Schrödinger cat
Keep America Great!
Baby Bush
January 11
Pop-cultural imperialism
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 24#Pop-cultural imperialism
Brongniartia (trilobite)
Pandorus sphinx moth,
Diversity clause
Shoot The Pyramid
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 25#Shoot The Pyramid
Arsak
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/WikiProject Wikipedians for Decency
Hemogram
Hemogramme
Bokashi composting.
MLive.com
Phraseology:Tian Gao Huang-di Yuan
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 21#Phraseology:Tian Gao Huang-di Yuan
Bill of Rights (disambiguation)
Quigibo & Quijibo
Kauffman (disambiguation)
Black Monday (January 2008)
Sony's Marvel Universe
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 24#Sony's Marvel Universe
Wikipedia:DAILYMAIL
Wikipedia:POVN
Teep
Lewis' law
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 25#Lewis' law
M. petiolaris
Department of Transport (Victoria, Australia)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 25#Department of Transport (Victoria, Australia)
Thatcherite fallacy
The dufflebag
January 10
Four-year college
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 19#Four-year college
2-year college
Repost
HMS Partridge (G30)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 18#HMS Partridge (G30)
"White" redirects to Ethnic stereotype
Little Bang
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 21#Little Bang
Retail politics
Species in Inoceramus
Acute HIV Infection and Early Diseases Research Program
MSNPC
Contractor combatant
Security regulation
French-speakers outside of Quebec
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 24#French-speakers outside of Quebec
RS:OPINION
Hovno
Canadian stereotypes
Vela Sierra
Political Synergy
Rogue (brand)
Individual One
Heat wheel
Bacolod South Road
Throttle (musician)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 19#Throttle (musician)
Alight Solutions
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 24#Alight Solutions
Fuckload
Ivory 503
Mike, Lu Og
January 9
Public Test Realm
Wikipedia:Naming conventions (identity)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 18#Wikipedia:Naming conventions (identity)
Circle of eath
Template:Infobox Beano
Template:Infobox Charmed group
Mozambaquie
List of active separtest movments
"Help" redirects to Help:Contents or Help:Help
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 17#"Help" redirects to Help:Contents or Help:Help
Aperspectival
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 19#Aperspectival
Happybihday
Electric mouse
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 18#Electric mouse
ArticleFirst
2018 CAF Super Cup (disambiguation)
Greninja
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 18#Greninja
Code hygiene
City of Atlanta, GA.
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 19#City of Atlanta, GA.
Template:A
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 18#Template:A
Template:Tooltip
January 8
Featured article candidates
Christian identity
Sport Utility Truck
Wikipedia:Wikipedia redirects
Dahn Y'Israel Nokeam
List of supermarket chains in Bangladesh
Nokmim
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 15#Nokmim
Speculative philosophy
Wikipedysta:BartoszGwóźdź/brudnopis
Wikipedia:WikiProject Semiprotect
Wikipedia:WikiProject /Hong Kong Cinema
Policium
Farke
ٮ
Category:WikiProjects Alternate History
Eath food
Failed miscarriage
Rabbi Levi Shemtov
Spezial
ALL-CAPS with spaces redirects to Wikipedia:Protection policy
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 17#ALL-CAPS with spaces redirects to Wikipedia:Protection policy
Parturient
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 22#Parturient
January 7
Water fab
Xian (abbreviation)
"Template:Template" redirects
Movie: crash
Article(publishing)
Cashina Krabs
Polystar
El Tigre (comics)
Media racism
QUALIFIED TEACHER LEARNING AND SKILLS
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch railway station
Qrigin of Species
Wik.is
Alabama (band)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 20#Alabama (band)
Wikipedia:NAWARD
Speculated to have been autistic
Little Ed Blue/A Twist of Ed
Run Ed Run / A Town Called Ed
Take This Ed and Shove It Pts. 1 and 2
Episodes from Ed, Edd n Eddy, Special episodes
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 20#Episodes from Ed, Edd n Eddy, Special episodes
Talk:Once upon an Ed
Once Upon An Ed
Full version of Avast Ye Eds
For the Ed, By the Ed
Episodes from Ed, Edd n Eddy, Season 5
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 19#Episodes from Ed, Edd n Eddy, Season 5
10th province of the kingdom of armenia
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 20#10th province of the kingdom of armenia
Rivals
Tony Bray
January 6
Category:Space theorists
Badminton at the 2019 Pan American Games
Warsaw Film Festival NETPAC Award for Best Asian Film
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 15#Warsaw Film Festival NETPAC Award for Best Asian Film
Witches' Church
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 15#Witches' Church
Witches' Cathedral
The People of the Witches
Year Supply of Fairy Cakes
Richard Clough Anderson
- I'm second guessing myself a bit now and wondering if this should've just been retargeted to Richard Anderson, where both are listed. A separate page allows a see-also for Richard Clough, but that may be unnecessary. I'll just leave my thoughts here if anyone wants to follow up. I wouldn't object to a WP:BOLD redirect. --BDD (talk) 17:36, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
Tsmnia
东京湾
東京灣
Polyisobutene
Spezial:Beobachtungsliste
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 14#Spezial:Beobachtungsliste
List of all three letter acronyms
Penes
ICC Club World T20
Charassognathidae
Wikipedia:Votes for sanction
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 15#Wikipedia:Votes for sanction
Mogok, Thailand
January 5
Norway in the Eurovision Song Contest 2020
Wikipedia:Votes for Keeping
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 15#Wikipedia:Votes for Keeping
Rotator
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 16#Rotator
Wikipedia:Votes for keep
Quote whore
Slogan 'AIDS Kills Fags Dead'
Big Cottonwvood Canyon Road
The Joy Bejar Show
Direwolf
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 14#Direwolf
January 4
Anglican Church
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 13#Anglican Church
4TFD
Rangerboard
RangerTalk
Pets of Sham-Fu
List of Bugs Bunny cartoons in alphabetical order
That's all Folks!
Looney Tunes logos
That's Looney Tunes
Bear (Looney Tunes)
Looney Tunes CDs
The Bugs & Daffy Show
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 15#The Bugs & Daffy Show
Bugs Bunny: Truth or Hare
Daffy Duck: Tales from the Duckside
St. Louis Music, Inc.
Crate Amplifiers
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 15#Crate Amplifiers
Riot Girls (film)
Restyling
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 17#Restyling
Unknown artist
Toneladas
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 17#Toneladas