User talk:Bishonen

Indo-Aryan migration

Edits on this page Indo-Aryan migration have been reverted by many editors. I don't want to cross the 3RR limot nor I want to revert again. Notably, there is a set of usual editors have made baseless accusations and seem to be removing my content just because they don't like what I add. It's not just me, another editor Wiki841 too has reverted them and restored my edit.

In the interests of avoiding edit-warring, I request you protect the article. I don't simply want my preferred version to be protected, so whatever version you protect is up to you. I am open to discussion but they shouldn't falsely blame me of copyright violation and outdated translation when there is none. They also keep using Wikipedia policies like WP:SOAPBOX which have nothing do with my edits. I suggest you tell them to discuss and prove themselves first and not make bad-faith baseless accusations. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 22:27, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

I want the ban removed

Hi, I want the ban removed as I never added unsourced material to any of the articles. May I know how I can appeal? Sharkslayer87 (talk) 11:03, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

• (talk page watcher) @Sharkslayer87: In fact, the template at the bottm of your talk explains everything you need to know...I advise though, that appealing the TB ten minutes after it was placed has a 100% chance of not being successful, I'm afraid. Try editing elsewhere for a few months, be productive, non-controversial, and then this can be revisiyed with more chance of success, perhaps. Just FYI. —SerialNumber54129 ^{paranoia /cheap sh*t room} 11:10, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
• Hi, Sharkslayer87. I have not banned you for adding unsourced material, but for using poor sources, and/or making claims unsupported by your sources, despite warnings and advice. The place you can appeal is the administrators' noticeboard. But Serial Number 54129 gives you good advice: you'll have a better chance of a successful appeal if you edit uncontroversially in other areas for a few months first. Bishonen | talk 11:23, 1 May 2018 (UTC).

Hi, Bishonen, I apologize if I did disruptive editing. But I beg you to understand me. I never added poor sources. My sources are genuine. The below two sources really provide synonymity between Raju and Kshatriya. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/Kanumuri-Bapiraju-faces-uphill-task-in-Narsapuram/articleshow/33795850.cms https://books.google.com/books?id=oQOF7tkWXjIC&pg=PA98&dq=kshatriyas+rajus&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiD-s67t4PaAhWGxFkKHcyxBUY4FBDoAQhUMAk#v=onepage&q=kshatriyas%20rajus&f=false.

The first source says "Rajus (Kshatriya)" and the second source clearly says "The rajus are a small, close-knit community of the Kshatriya caste"

These are the sources that I used. I also used Edward Evan Evans-Pritchard who is considered by many as one of the greatest social anthropologists ever. He has more than a hundered thousand results at google scholar and he has been cited by thousands and thousands of scholars. “The Raju caste, classified as the Kshatriya or warriors among the Twice-born castes, is the second highest in the village. The Raju are descendants of former rulers of the area and though their wealth and influence has declined they still bestow patronage in the form of land, money and political connections. Several Raju families have Shudra and Harijan field laborers attached to them by yearly agreements”.

He states in no uncertain terms that Rajus are classified as Kshatriyas.

Please kick me out if you want but please don't say that my sources are not good. I have never added bad sources. All my sources have been good. I might have been a little aggressive in my editing for which I apologize but I never used poor sources. Sharkslayer87 (talk) 11:39, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Sharkslayer87, since you have already appealed at WP:AN as well, I'll leave the community to deal with it. Bishonen | talk 14:16, 1 May 2018 (UTC).

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Sharkslayer87 (talk) 12:05, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at WP:AN regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Sharkslayer87 (talk) 12:17, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

• Hmmm, Bish and Writ Keeper, this doesn't seem to have been logged. Think the block is fine as they were notified, but noticed the lack of paperwork and all when I was looking at the AN thread. TonyBallioni (talk) 13:49, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

  Probably, I know I forgot. I'll do the paperwork. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 13:50, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

  Now logged; I think Bish was a good bean and had already logged the topic ban. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 13:53, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

  Oh, I got my respective South Asian discretionary sanctions log pages mixed up, sorry Bish. I should head over to BN, I suppose... TonyBallioni (talk) 13:55, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

  Yeah, the community bans are so much rarer than arbcom bans that it can get confusing when one is applied, especially because they are also called "discretionary sanctions". But even though we now have arbcom ds for India, Pakistan and Afghanistan, which of course cover caste as well, it's somehow rather pleasing to have a special thing for caste disruption. It tends to be so... disruptive, and there are always new caste warriors arriving to tell us they're descended from kings. Bishonen | talk 14:16, 1 May 2018 (UTC).

  My "favorites" are those who try to add their descent from various gods as a fact. Yes, my great-great-...great-grandfather was actually Vishnu! --NeilN ^{talk to me} 14:24, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Kind talkpage stalkers ahoy

Oh, dammit. I've been trying to fashion a bright red obnoxious box to post at the top of Talk:Ghirth, with the text "This page is for civil discussion of improvements of the page Ghirth. Caste glorification, attacks on living people, and other irrelevant material will be removed." It's supposed to be used as a last-ditch attempt to manage without semiprotection of that talkpage, which is currently at the mercy of clueless inexperienced caste warriors expressing their frustration at being unable to "improve" the semi-protected main page. Check it out, especially the stuff that Utcursch has removed. So, I have some boxes, that I've been trying to adapt, but it's bloody impossible. I probably keep missing out some really important dot or curl. Would a clever talkpage stalker like to create one for me? How about you, RexxS? NeilN ? Bishonen | talk 20:36, 1 May 2018 (UTC).

TonyBallioni obliged, I made it a bit more obnoxious. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 20:46, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Lovely stream today in the picture, Bish. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:48, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

I love you guys! Bishonen | talk 20:56, 1 May 2018 (UTC).

Nice work folks! I wanted to add "... as will all posts from any editor who has a deity anywhere in their family tree" but eventually I managed to suppress the impulse. --RexxS (talk) 21:05, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Hehe. Utcursch has also pointed out that we have the template {{Not a forum}}, I suppose I may use that another time. The angry warning is cooler and more obnoxious, though. Bishonen | talk 22:13, 1 May 2018 (UTC).

Strictly, the talk page should be empty by now :) —SerialNumber54129 ^{paranoia /cheap sh*t room} 03:36, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Young Luna, my plan with asking for a box was in fact to follow it up with blanking the talkpage. But then I felt hampered by the fact that Utcursch and another user have answered the SPAs in good faith, telling them things that they might conceivably benefit from. I doubt it, going by experience, but it's possible. And blanking Utcursch himself seemed just rude. Did you see this gem btw? The name mentioned, and indeed the account name, probably refers to the author of the main academic source for the article, just with a spelling/transcription variation for the first name. I thought of asking for oversight, but with the different spelling.. nah, bah. Bishonen | talk 08:14, 2 May 2018 (UTC).

That comment was rather out of line, so I've gone through the page history and applied some revdel. Better safe than sorry. And FTR I prefer the angry warning; the other one gets ignored basically always. Vanamonde (talk) 11:31, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, it was pretty specialist stuff! —SerialNumber54129 ^{paranoia /cheap sh*t room} 11:48, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

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Thank you

I just wanted to personally thank you for your comments on the unblock request. 331dot (talk) 17:33, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, 331dot. I think you did right to reject the appeal, though I was ready to leave it to you. 24 hours isn't much, and I hope he uses them to review 3RR and dispute resolution. The "Shakespeare authorship question" is also under some of our less known discretionary sanctions. Bishonen | talk 18:20, 4 May 2018 (UTC).

Grawp,

who was? Sounds vaguely familiar.--Dlohcierekim (talk) 21:23, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Grawp is User:JarlaxleArtemis. If you click on the username, it'll take you to his Long-term abuse page. Bishonen | talk 22:06, 4 May 2018 (UTC).

My pages

Thank you all for your recent vigilance on my user and talk pages. Much appreciated. There are some very odd and bored people around. Giano (talk) 12:49, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

(Bishzilla sticks the little Giano in her pocket for safekeeping and cakes.) bishzilla _ROARR!! pocket 16:44, 8 May 2018 (UTC).