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"Hast thou given the horse strength? Hast thou clothed his neck with thunder?
He swalloweth the ground with fierceness and rage..."
~~Book of Job, Old Testament

"...through his mane and tail the high wind sings,
Fanning the hairs, who wave like feather'd wings."
~~William Shakespeare

"He is fire and wind transformed into poetic majesty;
A sonnet of beauty and grace;
A rhapsody of power in motion.
His strength and beauty captivates us.
His magnificence tantalizes the mind with wonder and amazement.
He fills our dreams with fanciful images of riding through clouds;
Of finding unicorns in magical forests;
Of taming wild mustangs."
~~Betty Wills

"And God took a handful of southerly wind,
blew his breath over it,
and created the horse."
~~Bedouin Legend

Opening segment of the PBS episode, A Celebration of Horses with William Shatner
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It is much easier to ride a horse in the direction it is going. —Abraham Lincoln

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Nodding the head does not row the boat. — Irish Proverb

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Make haste slowly." —Kikkoman

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Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want." —Randy Pausch

Atsme^📞📧

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DYK, GA, FA/FP and Barnstars, all of which represents the wonderful sense of community that is Wikipedia
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Gabor B. Racz Thought of complimenting you for this article. A good one mainly in terms of prose quality. Best --PeterCRames (talk) 19:20, 19 July 2014 (UTC) What a nice compliment. Thank you, PeterCRames.Atsme☯Consult 03:50, 20 July 2014 (UTC) A barnstar for you! The Resilient Barnstar OK, I hope you're happy with your work, I think it's fabulous! And I'm also glad that we could (resolve? set aside? put on hiatus?) our differences elsewhere and that it led to this accomplishment of yours. Cheers! — alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 19:11, 12 April 2014 (UTC) Thank you, Alf. It means a great deal more to me coming from you. I don't even consider our differences as anything to set aside, much less consider. I learned a great deal from the experience, and thank you kindly. Now then, is the article still supposed to be in my sandbox, or did I screw-up yet again? Atsme☯Consult 19:17, 12 April 2014 (UTC) No, it's normal that it's still in your sandbox. When you move a page out of userspace into mainspace that just happens. You can blank the sandbox version and it won't affect the real version, and then use your sandbox for other stuff. Would you be interested in trying to write a DYK (WP:DYK) from your new article? It'll get it on the main page for a few hours. That process can be a little overwhelming, I know, but if you'd like to try I can help you, or if you'd like it to happen but don't want to get involved, I can do it for you (which is normal, other people proposing DYKs for new articles).— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 19:23, 12 April 2014 (UTC) I'd love to do something new. If you have the patience to work with me, I'm game. Also, I noticed in the "view history" of my new article, it shows all the edits. Uh oh? Or is that normal? You might want to take a peek at it. Atsme☯Consult 19:26, 12 April 2014 (UTC) It's supposed to show the history, don't worry about that. I'll think about what might be a good hook, and maybe you can read over the instructions at the DYK page. I believe you have 5 days or 10 days or something from when it's moved into mainspace, so it's not a super hurry.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 19:28, 12 April 2014 (UTC) You can take the lead, and just coach me along so I can see first hand how it's done. Is that ok? Atsme☯Consult 19:33, 12 April 2014 (UTC) OK, will do later today or tomorrow and let you know what's going on.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 19:38, 12 April 2014 (UTC) I miss your insightfulness, your patience, and your genius, Alf.laylah.wa.laylah. I hope you are checking in from time to time, and will see my post. Please come back soon. Atsme☯Consult 20:49, 13 March 2015 (UTC) The above thread is referring to Gabor B. Racz which further substantiates how wrong it was for editors to initiate a WP:GAR within minutes following the wrongful accusations of a COI against me at COIN, particularly regarding this BLP. What ensued at the GAR discussions and on the article's TP should serve as a lesson to all of us regarding allegations of COI without justification, and the only reason I am now bringing it up. Atsme📞📧 17:19, 25 November 2015 (UTC) Your GA nomination of Alligator gar The article Alligator gar you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Alligator gar for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Cwmhiraeth -- Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:42, 11 July 2014 (UTC) For your information, your chain moray eel image is now in The Signpost. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:57, 15 July 2014 (UTC) Cwmhiraeth, thank you for the update, and congratulations on your accomplishments!! Atsme☯Consult 03:59, 16 July 2014 (UTC) I did the DYK nomination It's here: Template:Did you know nominations/Gabor B. Racz‎. You might want to put it on your watchlist because it's sometimes necessary to do a little editing before it's accepted, but in this case I think that'll be minimal. By the way, you should be quite proud of the minimal attention the article got from new page patrollers. You probably didn't realize it, but those two or three small edits people made right after you moved it were just the tip of the iceberg of probably around a hundred people looking it over to make sure it wasn't too crappy to survive, and then it got assessed with a C by the bio wikiproject. Very good!— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 22:10, 13 April 2014 (UTC) Makes me smile. Thank you. I'm reading up on QPQ, DYK, KMA, IDK, MMD, etc., etc., etc. I have a 6 ft. sheet of initialisms and acronyms that will probably take me 3 years to learn. Atsme☯ talk 22:23, 13 April 2014 (UTC) @Alf.laylah.wa.laylah: So what happens next? DYK for Gabor B. Racz slakr\ talk / 23:08, 25 April 2014 (UTC) Congratulations! For this!— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 22:23, 24 April 2014 (UTC) Oh, WOW, Alf!!! WOW!! We did it!!! Thank you, thank you!!! Atsme☯ talk 23:46, 25 April 2014 (UTC) Did you look at the main page and see it on there? I took a screenshot for you in case you want a souvenir, which I can email to you if you'd like. Fabulous work, it flew right through the review. That's very rare on a first try. You should be proud. There are all kinds of little widgets you can put on your userpage to commemorate the occasion if you want to.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 00:20, 26 April 2014 (UTC) The article's main page, or one of the links on the banner? Not quite versed in navigating DYK. I would love a souvenir, Alf - thank you bunches, and thank you for the kind words, but I can't take full credit. I had one helluva teacher in you! Where do I get the widgets? Oh, and I added the DYK tool, I think. I need to read up on the DYK procedures, because right now it's all a bit confusing. Once that light goes on in my head, I'll be on the fast track. I also made my first template, and uploaded more pictures to Commons. That was fun, too. Just have to be careful I don't grow roots in this chair. I lose track of time, and before I realize it, 10 to 12 hrs have passed. Atsme☯ talk 02:46, 26 April 2014 (UTC) No, the actual front page of Wikipedia that the whole world sees when they land on it. It's still on there now, so you can see it live, but in case you don't get this in time I'll send you the screenshot anyway. It's amazing how time flies, isn't it?— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 02:58, 26 April 2014 (UTC) Oh, Wow!!! No, I didn't know!! Atsme☯ talk 03:01, 26 April 2014 (UTC) Yeah, that's the payoff for writing good new content. Amazing, isn't it? Do you know how to check page views in the article history? Wait till the date changes and you'll see your article got thousands of views today.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 03:05, 26 April 2014 (UTC) Sure is a good feeling, Alf. Amazing, and very rewarding. Page views? I don't know how to check page views. That is really awesome beyond words! Is there a link to the Widgets for my user page? --Atsme☯ talk 03:17, 26 April 2014 (UTC) I'm not sure if there's a general link. I use little teensy ones that I copied off someone else's page, you can see them on my user page. Also you can just look at other people's userpages who do DYKs and see what they do. That's probably the best way to find them, but also there might be a category or a list of them somewhere, I just don't know.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 03:24, 26 April 2014 (UTC) DYK for Alligator gar Gatoclass (talk) 05:37, 20 July 2014 (UTC) A kitten for you! Great works!! You have improved a lot....Keep up.... The herald 15:33, 27 July 2014 (UTC) The Herald - how sweet - thank you!! And thank you for being so patient and giving of your time. I'm pretty excited about a couple new projects I'm working on offline, and also trying to improve a very inaccurate "start" article that relies heavily on self-published sources, and original research. Atsme☯Consult 16:13, 28 July 2014 (UTC) Your GA nomination of American paddlefish The article American paddlefish you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:American paddlefish for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of FunkMonk -- FunkMonk (talk) 00:42, 5 September 2014 (UTC) Your GA nomination of Bowfin The article Bowfin you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Bowfin for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Chiswick Chap -- Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:43, 29 September 2014 (UTC) DYK for American paddlefish —HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:02, 7 October 2014 (UTC) Barnstar The Original Barnstar To Atsme, an overdue barnstar for the impressive articles she has written on "primitive" fish. Well done! --Epipelagic (talk) 19:38, 11 October 2014 (UTC) Thank you kindly, User:Epipelagic. Your recognition is much appreciated. Atsme☯Consult 22:31, 11 October 2014 (UTC) DYK for Bowfin  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:43, 19 October 2014 (UTC) DYK for Synodus intermedius Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 9 November 2014 (UTC) Your GA nomination of Gabor B. Racz The article Gabor B. Racz you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Gabor B. Racz for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Cwmhiraeth -- Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:03, 1 December 2014 (UTC) Cwmhiraeth, thank you for your tireless efforts. Atsme☯Consult 22:06, 1 December 2014 (UTC) FA congratulations Just a quick note to congratulate you on the promotion of American paddlefish to FA status recently. If you would like to see this (or any other FA) appear as "Today's featured article" soon (either on a particular date or on any available date), please nominate it at the requests page. If you'd like to see an FA appear on a particular date in the next year or so, please add it to the "pending" list. In the absence of a request, the article may end up being picked at any time (although with about 1,287 articles waiting their turn at present, there's no telling how long – or short! – the wait might be). If you'd got any TFA-related questions or problems, please let me know. BencherliteTalk 10:46, 3 December 2014 (UTC) Thank you, Bencherlite. I believe in the DYK/GA/FA process, admire the reviewers for their diligence, and generosity of their time, and hope I will be able to help bring more quality articles to Wikipedia. Atsme☯Consult 12:25, 3 December 2014 (UTC) Today's Featured Article: Notification This is to inform you that American paddlefish, which you nominated at WP:FAC, will appear on the Wikipedia Main Page as Today's Featured Article on 24 December 2014. The proposed main page blurb is here; you may amend if necessary. Please check for dead links and other possible faults before the appearance date. Brianboulton (talk) 23:24, 4 December 2014 (UTC) Precious intrinsic beauty of sharing knowledge Thank you, free at last, for quality articles such as American paddlefish and Gabor B. Racz, written with the background of experience and in the spirit that there's "something indescribable, yet intrinsically beautiful about sharing knowledge", - you are an awesome Wikipedian! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:49, 24 December 2014 (UTC) One of the best Christmas gifts ever. Thank you Gerda Arendt. It is such an honor to receive this from you!! Atsme☯Consult 13:35, 24 December 2014 (UTC) A year ago, you were recipient no. 1072 of Precious, a prize of QAI! Thank you for great wishes, starting early, - I am still on my way and found in a 16th century text (and music) inspiration to go over the mountains, be inspired, support each other, and sing! All the good wishes are open now on my talk, to be shared, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:17, 24 December 2015 (UTC) Two years ago, you were recipient no. 1072 of Precious, a prize of QAI! My Christmas card will appear on my talk later today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:57, 24 December 2016 (UTC) Awww...thank you, Gerda Arendt. Your "Precious" prize generates feelings of warmth, love and peace. You are a very special Wikipedian as its founder and distributor. Atsme📞📧 15:00, 24 December 2016 (UTC) Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Chain Moray An image created by you has been promoted to featured picture status Your image, File:Chain moray eel.jpg, was nominated on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate an image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Thank you for your contribution! Armbrust The Homunculus 03:32, 6 February 2015 (UTC) Congrats. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 03:00, 7 February 2015 (UTC) Thank you. Atsme☯Consult 08:36, 10 February 2015 (UTC) Barnstar Awarded! The Barnstar of Integrity In recognition of your COI Ducks essay, which I find to be of value in facing the fact that Wikipedia has a serious ongoing problem. It takes bravery and moral conviction to stand up against the forces of organized COI editing. Thanks for your work. Jusdafax 15:38, 7 April 2015 (UTC) By the way, I see you had the same type of visitor I had today. I've banned him from my talk page, just so you know you aren't the only one. Best wishes, Jusdafax 21:47, 7 April 2015 (UTC) Thank you for the lovely barnstar, Jusdafax. My TP will wear it with pride. Atsme☯Consult 04:08, 8 April 2015 (UTC) To Atsme Ice Cream Award Atsme, gotta love being propped up to do a favor for others, only to be thrown to the wolves with no one by your side, eh? Welcome to Wikipedia! I've been wracking my brain trying to figure out how to make it up to you, and then i remembered..... ice cream exists. Please have some. You deserve it. petrarchan47tc 23:10, 5 April 2015 (UTC) I'll definitely take it!! Thank you, Petra! Atsme☯Consult 01:16, 6 April 2015 (UTC) While you're enjoying your ice cream, you might feel to watch this. petrarchan47tc 23:25, 8 April 2015 (UTC) And this. petrarchan47tc 00:12, 9 April 2015 (UTC) Believe it or not, I just sat down with a bowl of ice cream (Chocolate Royale) and fired up the computer and read this, so yes, I thoroughly enjoyed all the treats, thank you! Atsme☯Consult 02:14, 9 April 2015 (UTC) A barnstar for you! The Copyeditor's Barnstar For your work in Nirmala. Looks like you are a bit busy with all. Good day.. -The Herald the joy of the LORDmy strength 03:59, 8 April 2015 (UTC) This is lovely, TH. Thank you. It was a fun article to collaborate on with you. Atsme☯Consult 04:05, 8 April 2015 (UTC) God willin', you will have another collaboration soon. Its a mammoth one. -The Herald the joy of the LORDmy strength 04:13, 8 April 2015 (UTC) Shall I hint you? It's the most beautiful building in the world. Check my contribs and help me. -The Herald the joy of the LORDmy strength 07:31, 11 April 2015 (UTC) Some bubble tea for you! Drink it and tie your belt to review pending changes..:) -The Herald the joy of the LORDmy strength 09:16, 13 April 2015 (UTC) Bubble tea!! Thank you!! Atsme☯Consult 17:37, 13 April 2015 (UTC) Essay The Barnstar of Diplomacy I really can't claim to be a fan of the essay, but I would like to say that I appreciate the edits made in response to my concerns. I also respect and appreciate that you were willing and able to hear my concerns in the midst of an emotional and confrontational discussion. Formerly 98 talk|contribs|COI statement 12:54, 14 April 2015 (UTC) Thank you, Formerly 98. I am flattered and honored by your gesture of kindness. I do hope we can work together in a productive collaboration in the near future. I really do like your style. Atsme☯Consult 00:23, 15 April 2015 (UTC) A kitten for you! Woke up just now to see Nirmala already a GA!!! Gratitude........ -The Herald the joy of the LORDmy strength 02:03, 18 April 2015 (UTC) Almost, but not quite. I'll still gratefully accept the fuzzy little kitty. Atsme☯Consult 03:28, 18 April 2015 (UTC) A barnstar for you! The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar You deserve the barnstar and the credit. Forget not to add a userbox in Nirmala's name.... -The Herald the joy of the LORDmy strength 11:33, 18 April 2015 (UTC) Dearest Mentor O Mine, I am honored. Thank you. Atsme☯Consult 15:49, 18 April 2015 (UTC) Great..can you do just another small favor? Check your mail...-The Herald the joy of the LORDmy strength A barnstar for you! The Editor's Barnstar GREAT job! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:36, 3 January 2015 (UTC) Thank you, User:7&6=thirteen. Your collaboration was much appreciated. Atsme☯Consult 01:12, 4 January 2015 (UTC) A cupcake for you! Have a nice day Atsme Govindaharihari (talk) 13:50, 1 August 2015 (UTC) How sweet! Thank you, Govindaharihari. Your cupcake made it a nice day. Atsme📞📧 14:20, 1 August 2015 (UTC) A beer for you! (It was this or something called "bubble tea"- hope you like beer!) I see WP has regained a bit of its sanity. Welcome back xxxooo petrarchan47คุก 00:07, 14 August 2015 (UTC) Thanks for uploading the pictures A cute pinto foal for you! Thanks for uploading the photos, I added them to the articles (both the I Am Jose ones to his article, and one of him and the arena picture to the TWHNC article. Thanks again! 😊 White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 20:33, 17 November 2015 (UTC) You are very welcome! 😊Atsme📞📧 17:03, 18 November 2015 (UTC) By the way, you're invited to suggest material for my crazy edits page. 😀White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 21:38, 18 November 2015 (UTC) Some dim sum for you! Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. North America1000 09:54, 7 April 2016 (UTC) A barnstar for you! The Copyeditor's Barnstar For your tireless contributions in bringing Loham to GA status. :-) Charles Turing (talk) 11:35, 3 March 2016 (UTC) Thank you, Charles Turing. It was an interesting project to work on. Atsme📞📧 17:55, 3 March 2016 (UTC) A kitten for you! Meow! This cat swings all ways, vax and anti-vax, and will accept homeopathy, acupuncture, traditional Chinese medicine, and milk. And kitten hugs. Drmies (talk) 14:34, 15 March 2016 (UTC) Soft kitty, warm kitty, little ball of fur. Happy kitty, sleepy kitty, purr, purr, purr. *lol* Thanks, Drmies. If that cat ever authors a book about feline acupuncture, I'll do my best to include a section on the motivation and inspiration behind it. In kitty language, CAM/Alt Med can only mean one thing - creature comfort. Cats are pretty amazing creatures, as I'm sure you're well aware. Following is what homeo-pity meant to our 20+ yr. old barn cat who actually knew she was going to die. I say that with conviction because of the events that led up to it, beginning with her rare visit to the house. She stood at my front door meowing until I answered. I didn't know what was wrong with her - she looked fine for her age - so I picked her up, and sat on the porch swing with her in my lap. She responded well to a little love and attention; laid very still purring while I gently rubbed her head. After I went back into the house, she stayed there in the swing. I found her little lifeless body the next morning exactly where I left her. She came to tell me goodbye. Atsme📞📧 17:04, 15 March 2016 (UTC) A cup of coffee for you! Have a coffee and get ready.... -The Herald (Benison) • the joy of the LORDmy strength 16:52, 23 March 2016 (UTC) Yay!! Thank you. Glad you're back, TH. Atsme📞📧 16:57, 23 March 2016 (UTC) Tipping The Involuntary Recumbency Barnstar For your contributions toward a greater understanding of human–bovine interactions. Thank you for the GA review of Cow tipping. Moo. Brianhe (talk) 14:03, 1 June 2016 (UTC) Well earned, although I personally have to admit that when I saw "involuntary recumbency" in the edit summary I was thinking that it was some sort of euphemism for being sick or in the hospital or something. John Carter (talk) 14:26, 1 June 2016 (UTC) Thank you Brianhe - it's not only a creative barnstar, it's one that is udderly appreciated. It really moooved me. Sooo...along the lines of what John Carter said, when I first saw "involuntary recumbency" I thought someone was going to force me to ride a recumbent. Q: What did the cow say to the cow-tipping rednecks? A: Don't mooove a muscle! Atsme📞📧 15:39, 1 June 2016 (UTC) So is that what "don't forget to tip your server" means? --Tryptofish (talk) 16:49, 1 June 2016 (UTC) When you need an engineer instead "Everything I Know About Engineering" Award The highest honor bestowed upon editors who ask scientists a question that only engineers can answer. Choo-choo on that for a while. Atsme📞📧 13:38, 8 June 2016 (UTC) Hello Hi Atsme, I saw your post on Anarchyte's talk page and just now discovered your amazing work on Wikipedia. Why have you not yet applied for the Rfa? Xender Lourdes (talk) 00:34, 12 June 2016 (UTC) Thank you for the kind words, Xender Lourdes. I actually self-reverted after I re-read A's user page and realized their userbox correctly displayed their time as an editor, which to me is pretty amazing considering all the accomplishments in such a short period of time. And thank you Xender for your contributions and the excellent work you've been doing. I actually have given some consideration to adminship but I'm not quite ready for it. I occasionally help at DRN when I can - not as much as I should - and from time to time I'll close at ANI, but at this point in time, I very much enjoy working with the Equine Project team, creating articles, reviewing GA/FA candidates, improving/expanding articles for GA/FA promotion as well as helping others prep theirs, and I also enjoy spending time on Commons, providing photographs that are needed for articles, and helping review FP candidates. It's "happy time" for me. Admins have a huge responsibility, and to do the job right requires a great deal of time, patience, and understanding. Perhaps after I achieve most of my goals as a content creator and GA/FA contributor, adminship may be something I'd consider. Atsme📞📧 04:26, 12 June 2016 (UTC) Understood :) It was good to have come across you. See you around. Xender Lourdes (talk) 10:16, 12 June 2016 (UTC) A barnstar for you! The Working Woman's Barnstar For your thankless efforts at the Faisalabad GA review, and, in general, for all your splendid contributions to Wikipedia. We are blessed to have someone like you here! Sainsf (talk · contribs) 07:45, 20 June 2016 (UTC) Thank you, Sainsf. What a wonderful surprise, and an honor. Atsme📞📧 10:47, 20 June 2016 (UTC) What goes around... ...comes around. With the "what" being the fact that I'm going to have that image on my talk page beyond the death of humanity itself, when only the barren expanses of the empty internet remain. But I'll let crazy pig man speak for himself. Colonel Wilhelm Klink (Complaints|Mistakes) 01:31, 30 August 2016 (UTC) Seriously though, I'm glad you enjoyed my depository of failed amateur comedy user page. Colonel Wilhelm Klink, I don't trust that the internet will be here in recognizable form in the future, so I printed & framed your crazy pig man and hung it on the wall. Our little pot bellied pig gazes upon it dreamily every day. Atsme📞📧 15:13, 31 August 2016 (UTC) I hope your pig gets many hours of enjoyment from it (because God knows nobody else will). Now the only thing left to do is invite Kramer over to your house. ("Jerry! It's the pig man!") :) Colonel Wilhelm Klink (Complaints|Mistakes) 18:11, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Holidays and special occasions
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Happy Thanksgiving! A Thanksgiving turkey for you! Happy Thanksgiving! White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 16:22, 25 November 2015 (UTC) How sweet!! Thank you!! I intend to make it the happiest Thanksgiving ever!! I say that every year and because of my spotty memory, each one is the happiest!!! Atsme📞📧 16:43, 25 November 2015 (UTC) Hope it was happy, now that it's mostly over!😃 White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 02:53, 27 November 2015 (UTC) Happy Holidays! Ozzie10aaaa (talk) has given you a Christmas tree! Christmas trees promote WikiLove and are a great way to spread holiday cheer. Merry Christmas! Spread the WikiLove by adding {{subst:User:The Utahraptor/Christmas tree}} to any editor's talk page with a friendly message. --Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 15:16, 10 December 2015 (UTC) Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Santa Claus and horses Merry Christmas and happy new year!🎄🎁🎉 White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 23:01, 14 December 2015 (UTC) happy holidays to you as well Season's Greetings File:Xmas Ornament.jpg To You and Yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 11:00, 20 December 2015 (UTC) Thank you, Bzuk, and the same to you!! Atsme📞📧 19:28, 20 December 2015 (UTC) Season's Greetings! Hello Atsme: Enjoy the holiday season and upcoming winter solstice, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, North America1000 18:47, 20 December 2015 (UTC) Use {{subst:Season's Greetings}} to send this message Beautiful!! Thank you, Northamerica1000 --Atsme📞📧 19:28, 20 December 2015 (UTC) Merry Christmas Merry Christmas!! Hello, I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year, Thanks for all your help on the 'pedia!    –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 16:12, 21 December 2015 (UTC) Best wishes for the holidays... II you Season's Greetings Wishing you a Happy Holiday Season, and all best wishes for the New Year! Hafspajen (talk) 11:53, 23 December 2015 (UTC) Beautiful - thank you, Hafspajen. Greetings Season's greetings and all the best in the upcoming New Year! Brandmeistertalk 15:31, 23 December 2015 (UTC) Wow - animated, too. Love it!! Thank you, Brandmeister. Merry Christmas Merry Christmas! I've been hearing from the elves that you've been a little worried about how Santa's list is looking for you. They say he's almost done with his second check, and so far it looks like you've hardly been naughty at all! Thanks for the work you do and the help and nice words that you have shared with me. You have brought joy into my work here. I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year Gandydancer (talk) 17:52, 23 December 2015 (UTC) My thanks to you... ...for your card. I hope that you and yours have had, and will have, a good holiday, and a happy and productive New Year. BMK (talk) 20:38, 23 December 2015 (UTC) Wonderful holidays Merry Christmas and a happy New Year! --Tremonist (talk) 15:22, 23 December 2015 (UTC) Awwww...how sweet, Tremonist. Thank you!!! Atsme📞📧 15:35, 23 December 2015 (UTC) Merry Christmas Atsme! Popish Plot (talk) 20:34, 23 December 2015 (UTC) Back at ya, Popish - on your TP. Atsme📞📧 20:56, 23 December 2015 (UTC) Season's Greetings Wishing you a Charlie Brown Charlie Russell Christmas! 🎄 Best wishes for your Christmas Is all you get from me 'Cause I ain't no Santa Claus Don't own no Christmas tree. But if wishes was health and money I'd fill your buck-skin poke Your doctor would go hungry An' you never would be broke." —C.M. Russell, Christmas greeting 1914. Montanabw(talk) Thank you, Montanabw. I imagine it's snowing where you are right now, so snuggle up by the fireplace and stay warm. I hear a fire in the fireplace is ok on Christmas Eve because Santa has an alternate route. 🎁 Atsme📞📧 20:37, 24 December 2015 (UTC) Season's Greetings Season's Greetings A very happy holidays to you! --Godot13 (talk) 06:03, 25 December 2015 (UTC) Best wishes for 2016 . . . Atsme, may you continue to make Wikipedia a better place in the New Year. Cheers. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 04:42, 31 December 2015 (UTC) Auld Lang Syne brings back so many memories. 🎼 🎤 Thank you, Dirtlawyer1. I am ready for the countdown. 💃🍸🎉 Atsme📞📧 15:08, 31 December 2015 (UTC) Happy New Year, Atsme! Happy New Year! Atsme, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 10:35, 1 January 2016 (UTC) Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages. Thank you, Davey2010!! It was certainly happy last night!! Wishing you a happy and productive 2016!! Atsme📞📧 16:00, 1 January 2016 (UTC) You're welcome :), Haha same here!, By Monday It'll all be back to normal & everyone will be miserable again , Thanks and I wish you a very Happy New Year too :) .... again! . –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 22:10, 1 January 2016 (UTC) Yo Ho Ho ϢereSpielChequers is wishing you Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone! Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:WereSpielChequers/Dec15c}} to your friends' talk pages. 2016 year of the reader and peace 2016 peace bell Thank you for your wishes, returned with my review, and the peace bell by Yunshui! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:33, 31 December 2015 (UTC) So sweet! Thank you, Gerda Arendt. You are such a special Wikipedian. Atsme📞📧 15:09, 31 December 2015 (UTC) Thank you! - Click on bell for the sound ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:09, 2 January 2016 (UTC) Oh, wow! Beautiful sound. It resonates! Thanks, Gerda. Atsme📞📧 14:33, 2 January 2016 (UTC) Happy Easter! Happy Easter To celebrate Easter and the beginning of spring, here's a cute Easter bunny for you! White Arabian Filly Neigh Awww, how cute...thank you, White Arabian Filly and HAPPY EASTER to you, too!! Atsme📞📧 15:41, 26 March 2016 (UTC) Happy Easter! Happy Easter Happy Easter! And have a great day! Horsegeek(talk) 17:15, 27 March 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek Thank you, Horsegeek! I love bunnies that lay eggs!! Hope they're full of chocolate inside. Atsme📞📧 17:18, 27 March 2016 (UTC) Of course Atsme! 😋🍫 Horsegeek(talk) 17:21, 27 March 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek Happy Fourth of July! Happy Fourth of July! Here's hoping you have a great Fourth of July! White Arabian Filly Neigh I'm wearing ear plugs and body armor. Times have changed!! *lol* Thank you for the well-wishes, White Arabian Filly!! Happy 4th Happy 4th! Hope your 4th is red white and blue! (With other colors too) Horsegeek(talk) 22:11, 3 July 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek Thank you, Horsegeek - I'm enjoying the fireworks displays all around me while being thankful for the rains we just had, especially considering the expanse of my coastal hay fields - the same fields we haven't been able to cut because of all the rain. Atsme📞📧 02:50, 4 July 2016 (UTC) Halloween cheer! Happy Halloween! Hello Atsme: Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!     – North America1000 23:55, 31 October 2016 (UTC) Send Halloween cheer by adding {{subst:Happy Halloween}} to user talk pages with a friendly message. Thank you, Northamerica1000. I look forward to your cheers on holidays/occasions. They remind me what day it is!! Atsme📞📧 01:14, 1 November 2016 (UTC) Well, Halloween is already over on UTC time, but glad to provide the reminder! North America1000 01:42, 1 November 2016 (UTC) Halloween cheer! Happy Halloween! Hello Atsme: Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!     – –Davey2010Talk 12:29, 1 November 2016 (UTC) Send Halloween cheer by adding {{subst:Happy Halloween}} to user talk pages with a friendly message. Sorry I was meant to have sent this last night, Late's better than never :P, Anyway a Happy Halloween :), –Davey2010Talk 12:30, 1 November 2016 (UTC) I'm still wearing my Halloween costume so you're right - it's never too late!! Thank you for the cheers, Davey2010 Atsme📞📧 17:58, 1 November 2016 (UTC) Happy Thanksgiving! Happy Thanksgiving! Wishing you a wonderful Thanksgiving with lots of good food and family! White Arabian Filly Neigh Ohhhh...how sweet!! Thank you, White Arabian Filly. I'm feeling a little homesick for our American traditions and above all missing my family, but it's hard to resist the beautiful sunrises and sunsets of this island. Wishing you & yours a very HAPPY THANKSGIVING!! Atsme📞📧 23:38, 23 November 2016 (UTC) Island? That sounds interesting and exotic. I'm jealous! --Tryptofish (talk) 00:44, 24 November 2016 (UTC) Tryptofish, spreek je Nederlands? Dat doen we op Bonaire alsmede Papiamentu, en een Spaanse, en Engels. Atsme📞📧 02:43, 24 November 2016 (UTC) Mais non. Je parle Anglais très mal, bien sur, aussi un peu de Français. Je suis encore jaloux. Papiamentu? Formidable! --Tryptofish (talk) 22:42, 24 November 2016 (UTC) Tryptofish I think your English is great, and I'm impressed with your French. I'd be happy to give you a personal tour of the island as my honored guest if that will lift your spirits. As for Papiamentu, I can throw out a few sentences....Un buricu no ta un bestia bunita, ma tampoco un bestia mahos. And in closing, I can say without reservation, "Mi ta hari henter dia." Atsme📞📧 23:32, 24 November 2016 (UTC) LOL! Don't hear Dutch spoken very often. (That is Dutch, right?) Horsegeek(talk) 04:45, 24 November 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek Yes it is - the perfect Google translate Dutch. Atsme📞📧 13:31, 24 November 2016 (UTC) So I'm not the only Wikipedia editor who can't speak multiple languages?! 😊White Arabian Filly Neigh 15:45, 24 November 2016 (UTC) Totally not! I can speak Cantonese, and a bit of Vietnamese. Mostly on the understanding side though. So not perfect! Horsegeek(talk) 18:06, 24 November 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek Impressive!! Atsme📞📧 23:32, 24 November 2016 (UTC) Gobble Gobble "Gobble. The gobble is a loud, rapid gurgling sound made by male turkeys. The gobble is one of the principal vocalizations of the male wild turkey and is used primarily in the spring to let hens know he is in the area." Happy Thanksgiving! Let's just say you've been gobbled. Horsegeek(talk) 18:04, 24 November 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek Horsegeek, if I've been gobbled, it's probably because my wattle confused ole Tom. Hoping you had an amazing turkey day!! 😂 Atsme📞📧 23:06, 24 November 2016 (UTC) I hope you had a good one too! Though honestly, I had more ham than turkey Horsegeek(talk) 04:02, 25 November 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek Happy Holiday! Merry Cristmas everybody!!! "And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord." Luke 2:10-11 (King James Version) Ozzie10aaaa (talk)is wishing you a Merry Christmas. This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove. Spread the cheer by adding {{Subst:Xmas4}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Atsme, Happy Holiday/New Year!--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 11:42, 7 December 2016 (UTC) Hi, Ozzie10aaaa - thank you so much for the beautiful wishes! I will reciprocate in kind by wishing you and yours a joyous and merry Christmas and a Happy New Year as we near the close of 2016. I pray we'll be around to celebrate many more!! Atsme📞📧 16:57, 10 December 2016 (UTC) Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas Hoping you stay warm and have lots of good times and good food this holiday season! White Arabian Filly Neigh Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Merry Christmas! Have a safe Christmas! Horsegeek(talk) 17:17, 16 December 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek Season's Greetings Hello Atsme: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, North America1000 15:30, 18 December 2016 (UTC) Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings1}} to send this message Thank you, Northamerica1000. Your greeting is as close as I'll be getting to snow this holiday season. It's a nice time of the year, at any rate. Hope you and yours have a happy 2017! North America1000 16:38, 18 December 2016 (UTC) Merry Christmas Merry Christmas Atsme!! Hi Atsme, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year, Thanks for all your help on the 'pedia!    –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 01:41, 22 December 2016 (UTC) Holiday card Wishing you a Charlie Russell Christmas, Atsme! "Here's hoping that the worst end of your trail is behind you That Dad Time be your friend from here to the end And sickness nor sorrow don't find you." —C.M. Russell, Christmas greeting 1926. Montanabw(talk) 23 December 2016 (UTC) Thank you, Montanabw, I'm looking forward to seeing some really kewl racetrack pictures!! Atsme📞📧 23:34, 23 December 2016 (UTC) Muhammad Ali Hi Atsme, could I get some feedback or assistance from you on how to convert Muhammad Ali into a GA article? Please note that there are some regulars who have been contributing to this article, and if you decide to get involved personally, it might help if you comment on the talk page of this article. Thank you. Soham321 (talk) 00:06, 24 December 2016 (UTC) and a very merry christmas and happy new year to you. Soham321 (talk) 00:15, 24 December 2016 (UTC) Hi Soham321, I'm happy to help. Will give it a look tomorrow. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you, too!! May your holidays be filled with many blessings! Atsme📞📧 02:02, 24 December 2016 (UTC) Merry Christmas 2016 Merry Cristmas everybody!!! "And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord." Luke 2:10-11 (King James Version) Tito Dutta (talk) is wishing you a Merry Christmas. This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove. Spread the cheer by adding {{Subst:Xmas4}} to their talk page with a friendly message. --Tito Dutta (talk) 15:51, 24 December 2016 (UTC) Happy Holidays Hello Atsme: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Samsara 15:54, 24 December 2016 (UTC) Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings1}} to send this message I know this is terribly lazy, but there is so much else to do! A good one to you and yours! Samsara 15:54, 24 December 2016 (UTC) Yet another Merry Rexxmas --RexxS (talk) 16:12, 24 December 2016 (UTC) Oi!, Marine Boy, me ol' china ... Martinevans123 (Santa's Drop-in Centre) ... sends you ... ... warmest seasonal wishes for ... Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda Hoping that Christmas may bless you with peace, love and understanding... and wishing that you may find your true star... !! Season's Greetings Hello Atsme: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Doug Weller talk 16:56, 24 December 2016 (UTC) Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings}} to send this message Season's greetings Hi Atsme, many thanks for the card, and a very Merry Christmas to you too. Best, SarahSV (talk) 17:02, 24 December 2016 (UTC) Yo Ho Ho ϢereSpielChequers is wishing you Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone! Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:WereSpielChequers/Dec16a}} to your friends' talk pages. Merry, merry! From the icy Canajian north; to you and yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 19:51, 24 December 2016 (UTC) Seasons Greetings! Hello Atsme: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, -- Dane talk 08:27, 25 December 2016 (UTC) Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings1}} to send this message Holiday Greetings! Atsme Merry Christmas & Happy New Year! Thank you for helping make Wikipedia a better place. Blessings. May we all have peace in the coming year. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:08, 26 December 2016 (UTC) Belated Holiday Greetings Merry... uh, well, I guess Christmas! My apologies for not reaching you sooner; I've been on a three week break for some reason. Hence, let me belatedly thank you for your thoughts this holiday season; I am very grateful for the thought, and I sincerely appreciate the gesture. Allow me to wish you and your loved ones a happy (remainder of the) holiday season, and a prosperous year to come. :) Colonel Wilhelm Klink (Complaints|Mistakes) 21:49, 27 December 2016 (UTC) Happy happy! Happy New Year! North America1000 01:51, 1 January 2017 (UTC) Beautiful picture, Northamerica1000. Thank you, and HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU!!! My kindest & warmest wishes to you & yours with hopes for a prosperous and peaceful new year. Atsme📞📧 14:16, 1 January 2017 (UTC) Happy New Year, Atsme! Happy New Year! Atsme, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 12:47, 1 January 2017 (UTC)    Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages. Thank you, Davey2010 - can you believe another year just passed us by? Wow...I hope we can celebrate many, many more!!! HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU!!! 🎉🎈🍾🍸 Atsme📞📧 14:13, 1 January 2017 (UTC) You're welcome, I know eh 2016 had gone too quick but in the end It was a crap year so kinda glad it did fly by! :), Arr thanks and I too hope we celebrate many more!!!, I hope you and your family have a very Happy and Healthy New Year :), –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 16:03, 1 January 2017 (UTC) Happy New Year Happy New Year! Hello Atsme: Thanks for all of your contributions to Wikipedia, and have a great New Year! Cheers, CAPTAIN RAJU (✉) 21:38, 1 January 2017 (UTC) Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year snowman}} to people's talk pages with a friendly message. CAPTAIN RAJU - thank you!!! Happy New Year to you!! May all your wishes for 2017 come true!!! Atsme📞📧 00:42, 3 January 2017 (UTC) Happy Easter! Happy Easter To celebrate Easter and the beginning of spring, here's a cute Easter bunny for you! White Arabian Filly Neigh 20:57, 16 April 2017 (UTC) Thank you White Arabian Filly. I hope you had a Blessed holiday, too!! Atsme📞📧 02:53, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
	You went above and beyond helping a newcomer to Wikipedia. Magnolia677 (talk) 16:52, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

Awwww...thank you, Magnolia677. ^{Atsme📞📧} 19:16, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Longnose batfish.jpg

An image created by you has been promoted to featured picture status Your image, File:Longnose batfish.jpg, was nominated on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate an image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Thank you for your contribution! Armbrust The Homunculus 20:29, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Congrats! It's an excellent likeness of me! --Tryptofish (talk) 21:39, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

I uploaded that image in your honor, Tryp!! ^{Atsme📞📧} 00:32, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

If I say so myself, the red lipstick looks very fetching on me. --Tryptofish (talk) 00:36, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

And it doesn't leave a trace. Kiss away!! 👄💋^{Atsme📞📧} 01:04, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Nice to see it made it. • • • Peter (Southwood) ^(talk): 18:24, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
	for your engagement on the NPP and ACTRIAL issues whether or not your opinions concur with mine. At least you now have the eyes and ears of the WMF. Thank you :) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:58, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you Kudpung, but it is you I applaud for your leadership and steadfastness in this worthy endeavor. I believe we are of the same opinion regarding the essential elements; however, as an ideaologist ^{who makes-up words} I'm not above throwing stuff against the wall to see what sticks, especially when there's a stalemate. It is long past due for the project to have safeguards in place to assure sustainability and integrity of the encyclopedia. ^{Atsme📞📧} 16:41, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for the kind words:) If you have not already done so, you might like to follow the other pages this issue spreadaccross, namely WP:KNPP & talk, WT:NPPAFC, andWikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Analysis and proposal. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:39, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/spotted trunkfish

An image created by you has been promoted to featured picture status Your image, File:Spotted Trunkfish.jpg, was nominated on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate an image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Thank you for your contribution! Armbrust The Homunculus 13:05, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Congrats again, and having looked at the FPC page, I actually have a question that reflects my limited knowledge of photography: what does "high EV" mean? --Tryptofish (talk) 21:32, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, Tryptofish - EV = Encyclopedic Value...it's a requirement for WP:FP candidates, but not for Commons FP candidates. They judge differently. ^{Atsme📞📧} 21:37, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Oh, of course, and nothing to do with camera settings! If I weren't a fish already, I'd self-whale! --Tryptofish (talk) 21:41, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

And Tryp, I had the perfect template made for that, too -  Self-whale... for when a trout just isn't enough, as you already know, but reminders don't hurt considering the antsy trigger fingers of template deletionists which make the saying "use it or lose it" encyclopedic. I was hoping that my template creator would add the words "...when a trout just isn't enough." to the self-whale template^{I figured it out, now done!20:24, 5 August 2017 (UTC)} but I was happy and appreciative for the template he created. I will add that he did make the perfect template for Just curious... which included the emoji & dots... ^{Atsme📞📧} 22:35, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Special Barnstar
		To Atsme, for your tireless and patient mentoring of me on the article Charmayne James in order to bring it to good article status. My first good article attempt. And also for your outstanding editing skills. There aren't enough words. Thank you!

Awwww...how sweet of you Dawnleelynn. It truly was my pleasure. ^{Atsme📞📧} 22:49, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

The Half Barnstar

		The Half Barnstar
		For cooperating so well with MrX on the article and talk page for Trump campaign–Russian meeting and for taking it with a good balance of grace and productivity, I award you the Right Half of the Barnstar! DARTHBOTTO talk•cont 20:53, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

😂 My first!! Priceless...thank you, DarthBotto. You get the other half + a whole one!! ^{Atsme📞📧} 21:11, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Of potential interest...

Random Nerds. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:48, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

A friendly note

As a friendly note regarding, but unrelated to your recent post at WP:DRV, I found an animated GIF regarding Trump here. Also, I don't mind that you brought the discussion to DRV, just so you know. Just some humor here... Regards, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 08:06, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Northamerica1000 I hope you know that I hold you in the highest regard, and that the review I requested did not stem from distrust or concern over your judgment - I have had my days in the hot seat as an equine competition judge where substantial amounts of money were at stake and know the pressure of a judgment call full well - and I believe with all my heart that you did what you felt was the right thing, and I respect your decision even though I may have disagreed with it. Thank you for all you do, for your courage and integrity, and for your refreshing sense of humor. 🤗❤️^{Atsme📞📧} 13:15, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

BLP

Good work on Talk:Jared Taylor. The folks over there just keep claiming that if it's in a RS, it belongs in the article. They don't accept that opinions and facts are different things, or that BLPs have strict requirements for fairness. Such a pity. Lou Sander (talk) 23:01, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, Lou...I hold your words in the highest regard. Collaboration and honoring PAGs are of the utmost importance in my book, as it appears it is for you as well. ^{Atsme📞📧} 23:08, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Hello - you both have far more Wikipedia experience than I and I am posting here strictly for the purpose of understanding why the recent Nblund & Grayfell edits made to the Jared Taylor article were improper and deemed "crap". I read the edits in question as well as WP:BLP and it seems to me that the best result would have been a combination of what was there previously with some of the edits in question. Again, just attempting to learn here - Thanks. airuditious (talk) 19:52, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Aleding - the cited source used to make a derogatory claim about a WP:BLP was The Guardian ("The newspaper's reputation as a platform for liberal and left-wing editorial has led to the use of the "Guardian reader" and "Guardianista" as often (but not always) pejorative epithets for those of left-leaning, earnest or politically correct tendencies". per WP). While we don't discriminate against sources that are biased we must be careful about opposition politics, and the article's motive being that it was written in Aug 2016 in the middle of the US presidential elections. The left was attacking the right quite handily with political bias and used unsupported claims of racism to denigrate the opposition and its followers. The comment was added as a factual statement in Wiki voice, and that violates WP:BLP, WP:NPOV and WP:LABEL. I have grown weary of repeating the same WP:PAG over and over again at that BLP and at WP:RS/N. The last RfC that was held for that BLP was closed as "no consensus", so the disruption continues. I don't really care what people think off-WP. They are entitled to their opinions, but when they're here editing, they have to leave their biases at login. I have pointed to samples of good articles that are encyclopedic the way they are written, and we should be striving for conformity, quality and integrity in our articles. See Charles Manson and Hitler. BLP requires multiple high quality sources and even then, we use in-text attribution which means we don't label people, we quote or summarize that others do and cite it inline to RS. Hope that helps. ^{Atsme📞📧} 20:23, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

THANK YOU - you have no idea how informative that was...can I feel free to post questions here from time to time? I promise to first research policies and not to abuse... airuditious (talk) 20:27, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Certainly! ^{Atsme📞📧} 21:21, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Atsme, it sounds like you objected to the lack of in-text attribution. I think you might be able to make a case for in-text attribution, but you reverted everything and called it "crap" - which doesn't give me a lot to work with in attempting to forge a compromise.

I feel like I should note: Hitler's entry describes him as a dictator who promoted antisemitism and conspiracy theories and Charles Manson is described as a cult-leader who believed in an impending race war. None of these are given in-text attribution, even though they have negative connotations. Nblund ^talk 22:00, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Nblund, let's look at the lead sentence in Hitler:

"Adolf Hitler (German: [ˈadɔlf ˈhɪtlɐ] (About this sound listen); 20 April 1889 – 30 April 1945) was a German politician who was the leader of the Nazi Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei; NSDAP), Chancellor of Germany from 1933 to 1945, and Führer ("Leader") of Nazi Germany from 1934 to 1945. As dictator, he initiated World War II in Europe with the invasion of Poland in September 1939, and was central to the Holocaust.

Now compare it to Jared Taylor's lead sentences:

Samuel Jared Taylor (born September 15, 1951) is an American white nationalist and white supremacist. He is the founder and editor of American Renaissance, a magazine often described as a white supremacist publication.

Taylor was hit 3 times in the first two sentences with derogatory labels stated in Wiki voice as factual information when they are actually the opinions of detractors or his opposition, if you will.

Back to Hitler, the article doesn't say in Wiki voice that Hitler was a murdering anti-Semite and a white supremacist who promoted conspiracy theories, does it? Those are tabloid labels, not academic or encyclopedic and not even close to ethical journalism.

• Fact - Hitler was a dictator.
• Fact - Hitler did promote antisemitism - he murdered millions of Jews (The lead terms it "central to the Holocaust" but I think that is probably overly cautious.)
• Fact - Hitler did promote conspiracy theories - he denounced international capitalism and communism as being part of a Jewish conspiracy per the WP article.

Those are all provable facts. The events actually took place and are documented in multiple history books and magazines with photos dating back when journalism followed a code of ethics unlike the political pundits, propagandists and bait & click authors of the internet generation. That's why editors should excercise caution when editing a BLP and finding RS to cite. Manson is the same way, so no need to dissect it.

The 2016 political campaign brought a lot of negativity. Those who stood to benefit politically and financially from race baiting, took advantage of it. The SPLC & ADL aren't immune from such antics, and neither are academics. See the last paragraphs in the Britannica, [1]. They simply don't pass the acid test for us to use as statements of fact in Wiki voice. For example, Leonard Zeskind, a lifetime member of the NAACP, is cited as a RS in the article. Biased sources can be RS, but not for this BLP. Carol M. Swain is also cited and she wrote an op-ed in WaPo "calling for the Republican Party to offer a formal apology to American citizens of African descent for the institution of slavery." Does she represent NPOV, or do you think there might be some bias involved there, too?

One sentence using a value-laden label one time in an article does not a white supremacist make. One quote I remember seeing was that Taylor believes some races excel in areas where others may not. <----is that proof that he's a white supremacist? I also read where he believes Japanese excel in math. Uh oh, what does that do to white supremacy? Maybe you should read this article in The Atlantic. Should we now label The Atlantic a white supremacist publication, or do we excuse them for that one time, or heck, maybe the article is informative and factual, then what?

Also check out WP:PSCI if you're proposing inclusion of anything pseudoscientific in the article, and don't be surprised if we suddenly find that article under DS for both BLP and PSCI - and it won't be my first rodeo. Editors should look at every article they create or edit as being representative of the quality and integrity people expect from a world renowned encyclopedia. WP isn't a soapbox or a place to right great wrongs. We're here to write factual information and opinions that we can attribute to RS, and when the time comes that a statement or the whole damn article is controversial and will ultimately be challenged, why not prepare in advance by using in-line text attribution while making sure our sources are of the highest quality for a BLP, and that the information is verifiable in the sources we're using? Why not? It's just that simple. ^{Atsme📞📧} 00:19, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Question

I'm about to turn in For the night but I wanted to ask; what do you do when if you ask a question and a random editor brings up some mistake you made in the past on the wrong page instead of awnsering your question? I didn't want to bring this to a other admin but I'm just wondering. Dinah In Wonderland 21:27, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Well, Dinah Kirkland, if it's a 1st time occurrence, I just ignore it. If it happens again, I'll ask politely for them to please not do it again. One has to have thick skin to be a WP editor but you'll get used to it, and eventually meet like-minded editors who'll make collaboration fun. Just come on over to my TP whenever you have a question, and I'll try to answer it for you. If I can't, then one of my (talk page stalker) probably can. Nighty-night! ^{Atsme📞📧} 00:41, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Ah thank you! That helped and I'll keep it in mind! Dinah In Wonderland 13:02, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

my tone

I hardly ever use emoticons, or even joke around when I'm engaging in a discussion that captures my interest. I just want you to know not to take that as evidence that I'm getting upset or annoyed. In truth, the more polemical and humorless I appear to be, the more I'm enjoying myself.

That's probably the reason why all my buddies in the Army thought I was a total masochist: I only ever joked around when we were doing something with an extremely high pucker factor, or that just plain sucked. Or when we were bored, a habit that caught me no end of grief from our CO. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 23:05, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

MjolnirPants, I've always thought of you as one who appreciates mind-stimulating discussions . I hope we'll have more. (I'm bad about using emojis) ^{Atsme📞📧} 00:30, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Drop the Stick

You really should drop the stick now on Jared Taylor. Power~enwiki (talk) 17:27, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Value-laden labels—such as calling an organization a cult, an individual a racist, terrorist, or freedom fighter, or a sexual practice a perversion—may express contentious opinion and are best avoided unless widely used by reliable sources to describe the subject, in which case use in-text attribution. You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts. ^{~ Daniel Patrick Moynihan} And that's all I have to say. ^{Atsme📞📧} 17:31, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Is that really all you have to say? Because it seems like every time you say that (and it's been several times), you end up saying more. So it sounds pretty hollow the tenth time. Rockypedia (talk) 23:48, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Your veiled threats against me

You've been threatening me and other editors for days on the Jared Taylor talk page, in an obvious attempt to intimidate, without cause. I don't know what your endgame is and I don't care. Either report me and every editor you've threatened to a neutral administrator, or knock off the threats. The third course of action, which is to continue your veiled unfounded threats, is what I fully expect you to take, because your agenda in supporting the whitewashing of a white supremacist's article is obvious, and the MO of online anonymous supporters of white supremacists matches your recent actions exactly. Time to put up or shut up. Rockypedia (talk) 23:47, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Clinton tarmac meeting

Your edits to that article are clearly not NPOV. Discuss it before reverting again. Rockypedia (talk) 01:14, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Question

Since you obviously have a lot of experience with wikipedia, I'm curious if you know: Is it against wikipedia rules to repeatedly accuse someone of being a "sockpuppet" without proof, as Rockypedia has been doing with me simply because he doesn't like my opinions? 24.178.250.78 (talk) 02:21, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

I'm not pointing out that you're a sockpuppet because of your opinions. I'm pointing out that you're a sockpuppet because you're editing without a registered account, and because you're a sockpuppet. Clear? Rockypedia (talk) 02:31, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

I'm not a sockpuppet, and I noticed you have accused everyone on the Jared Taylor talk page who disagrees with your ridiculous claims of being a "sockpuppet." Clear? 24.178.250.78 (talk) 02:56, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

I only pointed out that you're a sockpuppet. No one else. Rockypedia (talk) 03:06, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Oh, yeah? I think Pingu4581 might have something to say about that. 24.178.250.78 (talk) 03:17, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

He'll be busy for a while at 3RR. ^{Atsme📞📧} 03:00, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

No, I really won't be; in fact I'm already done there. But I have a feeling you might be busy explaining your blatant advocacy for Jared Taylor, once an admin looks at your edits and the spurious RfC that's being rejected roundly. Rockypedia (talk) 03:06, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

You're scaring me, Rockypedia - your comments and disruption, your trolling me, your accusations against other edits - I'd prefer it if you'd keep a safe distance away from me. You are not welcome here. ^{Atsme📞📧} 04:11, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Oh really. I haven't filed any kind of report against you, while you filed a frivolous 3RR report against myself and another editor, the results of which were: "Frivolous report, which is only tenuously connected with edit warring of any kind and not in the required format. Please don't misuse our boards." You don't seem scared. If you don't want to deal with responses from other editors, don't threaten them in your efforts to whitewash the Taylor page. Really easy. Rockypedia (talk) 12:54, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Tea

A nice cup of tea.

I noticed the 3RR thread. Please keep it cool in relation to the Jared article. When consensus isn't on our side it can be frustrating. Sometimes it's good to let the spice (and tea) flow a bit... You seem to be a reasonable person and experienced editor and I liked reading the sensitive yet convivial thread at Mojnir's talk page, so I know you've not lost your calm yet. Just a friendly reminder and encouragement to keep it despite the tribulations . Have a good day, —PaleoNeonate – 11:57, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Please note warning

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