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'''This list is also available''' in a '''[[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Current discussions (alt)|page-link-first format]]''' and in '''[[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Current discussions (table)|table format]].''' |
'''This list is also available''' in a '''[[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Current discussions (alt)|page-link-first format]]''' and in '''[[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Current discussions (table)|table format]].''' 41 discussions have been relisted.'' |
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===December 5, 2023=== |
===December 5, 2023=== |
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* ''([[Talk:List of Gatineau roads#Requested move 5 December 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:List of Gatineau roads]] → [[Roads in Gatineau]]''' – There's room to expand the scope, and there are reliable sources that cover the general quality of roads in the city. (ex: [https://www.caaquebec.com/en/news/press-releases/article/worst-roads-2023-whats-the-deal-in-gatineau], [https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/three-gatineau-roads-are-among-the-worst-in-quebec-1.5938247]) This new scope would naturally serve as a child article to [[Gatineau#Roads]]. [[User:HappyWithWhatYouHaveToBeHappyWith|HappyWith]] ([[User talk:HappyWithWhatYouHaveToBeHappyWith|talk]]) 17:25, 5 December 2023 (UTC) |
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⚫ | * ''([[Talk:Rostov, Yaroslavl Oblast#Requested move 26 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Rostov, Yaroslavl Oblast]] → {{no redirect|Rostov}}''' – The previous move mightily screwed upo Wikipedia. [[Rostov-on-Don]] and [[Rostov]] are completely different names and should not be confused. For starters, Rostov is 500 years older than Rostov-on-Don and the move disruptedd a huge number of historical articles: Rostov has half-ythousand of incoming links. The move also introduced confusion it lots of bio articles. [[Rostov the Great]] and similar (screwed-up by renaming bot) is a nickname to historically great Rostov, not Rostov-on-Don. etc. This is a huge mistake to muve page with long-established usage and with huge number of links. - [[user:Altenmann|Altenmann]] [[user talk:Altenmann|>talk]] 21:25, 26 November 2023 (UTC) <small>— '''''Relisting.''''' <b style="font-family:Monospace">-- [[User:Maddy from Celeste|Maddy from Celeste]] ([[User talk:Maddy from Celeste|WAVEDASH]])</b> 15:44, 5 December 2023 (UTC)</small> |
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⚫ | * ''([[Talk:Alpine foothills#Requested move 27 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Alpine foothills]] → {{no redirect|Prealps}}''' – "Prealps" is the term commonly used to refer to them (by official classifications such as SOIUSA/Partizione delle Alpi etc, as well as by mountaineers and the people in the countries were these mountains are located). "Foothills", besides being almost never used to refer to them, seems hardly suitable for mountains that are usually taller than 1,000 meters and in many cases than 2,000, with some exceeding 2,600 meters.--[[User:Potionkin|Potionkin]] ([[User talk:Potionkin|talk]]) 19:13, 27 November 2023 (UTC) <small>— '''''Relisting.''''' [[User:Bensci54|Bensci54]] ([[User talk:Bensci54|talk]]) 15:06, 5 December 2023 (UTC)</small> |
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⚫ | * ''([[Talk:Cà Mau Airport#Requested move 5 December 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[Cà Mau Airport]] → {{no redirect|Ca Mau Airport}}''' – Non-diacritic name, to harmonize with other airport names in Vietnam (see [[:Category:Airports in Vietnam]]). [[User:Đại Việt quốc|Đại Việt quốc]] ([[User talk:Đại Việt quốc|talk]]) 18:00, 1 December 2023 (UTC) <small>''This is a contested technical request'' ([[Special:Permalink/1188450676|permalink]]). [[User:Robertsky|– robertsky]] ([[User talk:Robertsky|talk]]) 14:40, 5 December 2023 (UTC)</small> |
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** [[Điện Biên Airport]] → {{no redirect|Dien Bien Airport}} |
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* ''([[Talk:Twin Towers#Requested move 5 December 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[Twin Towers]] → [[Redirect to World Trade Center (1973-2001)]]''' – According to https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&title=Twin_Towers (Statistics), most people searching up "Twin Towers" are looking for the [[World Trade Center (1973-2001)]]. Please move this per [[Wikipedia:Disambiguation|WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]]. [[User:SouthParkFan2006|SouthParkFan2006]] ([[User talk:SouthParkFan2006|talk]]) 12:40, 5 December 2023 (UTC) |
* ''([[Talk:Twin Towers#Requested move 5 December 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[Twin Towers]] → [[Redirect to World Trade Center (1973-2001)]]''' – According to https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&title=Twin_Towers (Statistics), most people searching up "Twin Towers" are looking for the [[World Trade Center (1973-2001)]]. Please move this per [[Wikipedia:Disambiguation|WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]]. [[User:SouthParkFan2006|SouthParkFan2006]] ([[User talk:SouthParkFan2006|talk]]) 12:40, 5 December 2023 (UTC) |
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** [[Twin Towers]] → {{no redirect|Twin Towers (disambiguation)}} |
** [[Twin Towers]] → {{no redirect|Twin Towers (disambiguation)}} |
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* ''([[Talk:Saldus Municipality (2021–present)#Requested move 1 December 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Saldus Municipality (2021–present)]] → [[Saldus Municipality]]''' – As the current form of the municipality, this is the [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]]. 99% of the time, a reader searching "Saldus Municipality" would be trying to find the current version, not the old version. This is also demonstrated by the difference in pageviews, and is how the Latvian version of the articles already do it. The disambiguation page should be deleted to make room - a hatnote can be put in to clarify if there's confusion. [[User:HappyWithWhatYouHaveToBeHappyWith|HappyWith]] ([[User talk:HappyWithWhatYouHaveToBeHappyWith|talk]]) 23:00, 1 December 2023 (UTC) |
* ''([[Talk:Saldus Municipality (2021–present)#Requested move 1 December 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Saldus Municipality (2021–present)]] → [[Saldus Municipality]]''' – As the current form of the municipality, this is the [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]]. 99% of the time, a reader searching "Saldus Municipality" would be trying to find the current version, not the old version. This is also demonstrated by the difference in pageviews, and is how the Latvian version of the articles already do it. The disambiguation page should be deleted to make room - a hatnote can be put in to clarify if there's confusion. [[User:HappyWithWhatYouHaveToBeHappyWith|HappyWith]] ([[User talk:HappyWithWhatYouHaveToBeHappyWith|talk]]) 23:00, 1 December 2023 (UTC) |
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** [[Saldus Municipality]] → {{no redirect|Saldus Municipality (disambiguation)}} over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then [[WP:G14]] delete if unnecessary |
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* ''([[Talk:Hermann Müller (politician, born 1876)#Requested move 1 December 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[Hermann Müller (politician, born 1876)]] → [[Hermann Müller]]''' – Noting this page was until recently [[Hermann Müller (politician)]]. Müller the chancellor seems to be the clear [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]] here, with all other Hermann Müllers who use disambiguators only reaching single and double digit pageviews, as well as having greater [[WP:PT2|long-term significance]] as one of the last Weimar chancellors. [[User:Curbon7|Curbon7]] ([[User talk:Curbon7|talk]]) 22:21, 1 December 2023 (UTC) |
* ''([[Talk:Hermann Müller (politician, born 1876)#Requested move 1 December 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[Hermann Müller (politician, born 1876)]] → [[Hermann Müller]]''' – Noting this page was until recently [[Hermann Müller (politician)]]. Müller the chancellor seems to be the clear [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]] here, with all other Hermann Müllers who use disambiguators only reaching single and double digit pageviews, as well as having greater [[WP:PT2|long-term significance]] as one of the last Weimar chancellors. [[User:Curbon7|Curbon7]] ([[User talk:Curbon7|talk]]) 22:21, 1 December 2023 (UTC) |
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* ''([[Talk:UF (disambiguation)#Requested move 1 December 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:UF (disambiguation)]] → {{no redirect|UF}}''' – (overwriting redirect to [[University of Florida]]) Simple two-letter combination. Most Google Search results for University of Florida, but Scholar results for [[ultrafiltration]] → no [[WP:primary topic|primary topic]]. Most inlinks to [[UF]] are from obscure species articles and were added in [https://sigma.toolforge.org/summary.py?name=Trfasulo&search=IFAS&server=enwiki&max=500&ns=&enddate=&startdate= 2008–2012]. [[User:Hameltion|Hameltion]] ([[User talk:Hameltion|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Hameltion|contribs]]) 17:45, 1 December 2023 (UTC) |
* ''([[Talk:UF (disambiguation)#Requested move 1 December 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:UF (disambiguation)]] → {{no redirect|UF}}''' – (overwriting redirect to [[University of Florida]]) Simple two-letter combination. Most Google Search results for University of Florida, but Scholar results for [[ultrafiltration]] → no [[WP:primary topic|primary topic]]. Most inlinks to [[UF]] are from obscure species articles and were added in [https://sigma.toolforge.org/summary.py?name=Trfasulo&search=IFAS&server=enwiki&max=500&ns=&enddate=&startdate= 2008–2012]. [[User:Hameltion|Hameltion]] ([[User talk:Hameltion|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Hameltion|contribs]]) 17:45, 1 December 2023 (UTC) |
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* ''([[Talk:Vi#Requested move 1 December 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Vi]] → |
* ''([[Talk:Vi#Requested move 1 December 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Vi]] → [[Vi (text editor)]]''' – (and redirect [[Vi]] to [[VI]]) Even with the second letter lowercase, this is a simple two-letter combination for which there is no [[WP:primary topic|primary topic]]. This subject's long-term significance not at the same height as primary topics [[Ra]], [[Ur]], ''[[qi]]'', or [[pi]]. Google Search's first results are for the text editor, but this may be inauthentic – Google also jokingly displays {{tq|Did you mean: EMACS}}. A Google Scholar search for {{tq|"vi" -author:vi}} shows results almost entirely for "vi" as the Roman numeral (capitalized of course). Lastly, this topic doesn't significantly clear [[Vi (League of Legends)]] in terms of [https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2021-10&end=2023-10&pages=Vi{{!}}Vi_(League_of_Legends) pageviews]. [[User:Hameltion|Hameltion]] ([[User talk:Hameltion|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Hameltion|contribs]]) 17:30, 1 December 2023 (UTC) |
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* ''([[Talk:John A. Olszewski Jr.#Requested move 23 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:John A. Olszewski Jr.]] → ?''' – This page is currently named in a way that does not follow [[WP:COMMONNAME]] and [[WP:Middle names]]. Local media websites write his name as Johnny Olszewski ([https://www.wbaltv.com/article/county-executive-olszewski-will-not-run-us-senate/43890822 WBAL], [https://baltimorebrew.com/2022/05/26/under-its-acting-director-baltimore-countys-biggest-department-sees-an-exodus-of-senior-staff/ Baltimore Brew], [https://www.baltimorecountymd.gov/ Baltimore County Government]) or Johnny Olszewski Jr. ([https://www.baltimoresun.com/politics/bs-md-pol-johnny-o-balt-co-20230515-ay3vxgrbrrcwda45w2yfnjpttu-story.html BaltSun], [https://www.marylandmatters.org/2023/07/06/olszewski-begins-raising-money-for-congressional-bid-as-he-awaits-ruppersbergers-decision/ Maryland Matters], [https://wtop.com/baltimore/2021/12/baltimore-countys-executive-tests-positive-for-covid-19/ WTOP]) I feel that the page should be moved to either [[Johnny Olszewski Jr.]] or [[Johnny Olszewski (politician)]] to fix this issue. [[User:Y2hyaXM|Y2hyaXM]] ([[User talk:Y2hyaXM|talk]]) 17:56, 23 November 2023 (UTC) <small>— '''''Relisting.''''' [[User:Bensci54|Bensci54]] ([[User talk:Bensci54|talk]]) 17:17, 1 December 2023 (UTC)</small> |
* ''([[Talk:John A. Olszewski Jr.#Requested move 23 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:John A. Olszewski Jr.]] → ?''' – This page is currently named in a way that does not follow [[WP:COMMONNAME]] and [[WP:Middle names]]. Local media websites write his name as Johnny Olszewski ([https://www.wbaltv.com/article/county-executive-olszewski-will-not-run-us-senate/43890822 WBAL], [https://baltimorebrew.com/2022/05/26/under-its-acting-director-baltimore-countys-biggest-department-sees-an-exodus-of-senior-staff/ Baltimore Brew], [https://www.baltimorecountymd.gov/ Baltimore County Government]) or Johnny Olszewski Jr. ([https://www.baltimoresun.com/politics/bs-md-pol-johnny-o-balt-co-20230515-ay3vxgrbrrcwda45w2yfnjpttu-story.html BaltSun], [https://www.marylandmatters.org/2023/07/06/olszewski-begins-raising-money-for-congressional-bid-as-he-awaits-ruppersbergers-decision/ Maryland Matters], [https://wtop.com/baltimore/2021/12/baltimore-countys-executive-tests-positive-for-covid-19/ WTOP]) I feel that the page should be moved to either [[Johnny Olszewski Jr.]] or [[Johnny Olszewski (politician)]] to fix this issue. [[User:Y2hyaXM|Y2hyaXM]] ([[User talk:Y2hyaXM|talk]]) 17:56, 23 November 2023 (UTC) <small>— '''''Relisting.''''' [[User:Bensci54|Bensci54]] ([[User talk:Bensci54|talk]]) 17:17, 1 December 2023 (UTC)</small> |
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* ''([[Talk:Girivalam (religious practice)#Requested move 30 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Girivalam (religious practice)]] → [[Girivalam]]''' – The weird parenthetical could potentially reduce pageviews. This page was previously held at [[Arunachala#Girivalam]] which had 11k views. This is the [[WP:Primary topic]] because [https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=586734894&rlz=1C1UEAD_enUS1051US1051&q=girivalam+news&tbm=nws&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwia39rjyuyCAxX_kiYFHTGCDHEQ0pQJegQIDhAB&biw=1536&bih=739&dpr=1.25] all Google News is about this practice only and nothing else. I agree with {{ping|Accesscrawl}} [[User:DareshMohan|DareshMohan]] ([[User talk:DareshMohan|talk]]) 20:42, 30 November 2023 (UTC) |
* ''([[Talk:Girivalam (religious practice)#Requested move 30 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Girivalam (religious practice)]] → [[Girivalam]]''' – The weird parenthetical could potentially reduce pageviews. This page was previously held at [[Arunachala#Girivalam]] which had 11k views. This is the [[WP:Primary topic]] because [https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=586734894&rlz=1C1UEAD_enUS1051US1051&q=girivalam+news&tbm=nws&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwia39rjyuyCAxX_kiYFHTGCDHEQ0pQJegQIDhAB&biw=1536&bih=739&dpr=1.25] all Google News is about this practice only and nothing else. I agree with {{ping|Accesscrawl}} [[User:DareshMohan|DareshMohan]] ([[User talk:DareshMohan|talk]]) 20:42, 30 November 2023 (UTC) |
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** [[Girivalam]] → {{no redirect|Girivalam (disambiguation)}} over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then [[WP:G14]] delete if unnecessary |
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* ''([[Talk:Copa Libertadores#Requested move 30 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Copa Libertadores]] → {{no redirect|CONMEBOL Libertadores}}''' – A user moved this page to {{-r|CONMEBOL Libertadores}} with the rationale "For some years now, CONMEBOL, which is the organizer of the event, has been advertising the expression “CONMEBOL Libertadores” as the new name of the competition. So it is only fair that this article recognizes the new official name of the competition." The article was then moved back to [[Copa Libertadores]] with the rationale [[WP:RMUM]]. The page was again moved to {{-r|CONMEBOL Libertadores}} with the same rationale. I moved it back here to maintain status quo and to start a move discussion to avert a move war. I don't have a preference one way or the other myself [[User:TartarTorte|<b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>]][[User talk:TartarTorte|<b>Torte</b>]] 18:52, 30 November 2023 (UTC) |
* ''([[Talk:Copa Libertadores#Requested move 30 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Copa Libertadores]] → {{no redirect|CONMEBOL Libertadores}}''' – A user moved this page to {{-r|CONMEBOL Libertadores}} with the rationale "For some years now, CONMEBOL, which is the organizer of the event, has been advertising the expression “CONMEBOL Libertadores” as the new name of the competition. So it is only fair that this article recognizes the new official name of the competition." The article was then moved back to [[Copa Libertadores]] with the rationale [[WP:RMUM]]. The page was again moved to {{-r|CONMEBOL Libertadores}} with the same rationale. I moved it back here to maintain status quo and to start a move discussion to avert a move war. I don't have a preference one way or the other myself [[User:TartarTorte|<b style="color: #ea5a5a;">Tartar</b>]][[User talk:TartarTorte|<b>Torte</b>]] 18:52, 30 November 2023 (UTC) |
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* ''([[Talk:Stéphane Richer (ice hockey forward)#Requested move 28 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Stéphane Richer (ice hockey forward)]] → [[Stéphane Richer]]''' – Clear primary topic; a 2x Stanley Cup champion with 1000+ games in the NHL, vs. a player who spent most of his career in the AHL and DEL. Disambiguation page not necessary, per [[WP:ONEOTHER]]. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.|talk]]) 21:15, 28 November 2023 (UTC) |
* ''([[Talk:Stéphane Richer (ice hockey forward)#Requested move 28 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Stéphane Richer (ice hockey forward)]] → [[Stéphane Richer]]''' – Clear primary topic; a 2x Stanley Cup champion with 1000+ games in the NHL, vs. a player who spent most of his career in the AHL and DEL. Disambiguation page not necessary, per [[WP:ONEOTHER]]. [[User:162 etc.|162 etc.]] ([[User talk:162 etc.|talk]]) 21:15, 28 November 2023 (UTC) |
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** [[Stéphane Richer]] → {{no redirect|Stéphane Richer (disambiguation)}} over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then [[WP:G14]] delete if unnecessary |
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* ''([[Talk:Jesus Lives#Requested move 28 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Jesus Lives]] → {{no redirect|Jezus Leeft}}''' – Per the, admittedly, old discussion above. Furthermore, almost all sources in this article, and those that I can see when searching for the party, and the party's own website, {{url|https://www.jezusleeft.nl/ }} refer to itself as "Jezus Leeft", or w/ some various combination. Jezus Leeft is the one I've seen most regularly - so I listed it here - if there's another more used alternative, I'd support it being renamed to that. The current title can be transformed into a redirect if there isn't any other notable thing by this name. It doesn't seem logical to keep this page as the title esp. when it's not being referred to by this name. Would appreciate feedback, Moshe [[User:Moshe1022|Moshe1022]] ([[User talk:Moshe1022|talk]]) 20:08, 28 November 2023 (UTC) |
* ''([[Talk:Jesus Lives#Requested move 28 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Jesus Lives]] → {{no redirect|Jezus Leeft}}''' – Per the, admittedly, old discussion above. Furthermore, almost all sources in this article, and those that I can see when searching for the party, and the party's own website, {{url|https://www.jezusleeft.nl/ }} refer to itself as "Jezus Leeft", or w/ some various combination. Jezus Leeft is the one I've seen most regularly - so I listed it here - if there's another more used alternative, I'd support it being renamed to that. The current title can be transformed into a redirect if there isn't any other notable thing by this name. It doesn't seem logical to keep this page as the title esp. when it's not being referred to by this name. Would appreciate feedback, Moshe [[User:Moshe1022|Moshe1022]] ([[User talk:Moshe1022|talk]]) 20:08, 28 November 2023 (UTC) |
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* ''([[Talk:National State Federation#Requested move 12 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:National State Federation]] → [[National State Employees Federation]]''' – A more accurate translation of the name. [[User:Daydreamers|Daydreamers]] ([[User talk:Daydreamers|talk]]) 23:51, 12 November 2023 (UTC) <small>— '''''Relisting.''''' [[User:Extraordinary Writ|Extraordinary Writ]] ([[User talk:Extraordinary Writ|talk]]) 08:08, 20 November 2023 (UTC)</small> <small>— '''''Relisting.''''' <b style="font-family:Monospace">-- [[User:Maddy from Celeste|Maddy from Celeste]] ([[User talk:Maddy from Celeste|WAVEDASH]])</b> 18:54, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</small> |
* ''([[Talk:National State Federation#Requested move 12 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:National State Federation]] → [[National State Employees Federation]]''' – A more accurate translation of the name. [[User:Daydreamers|Daydreamers]] ([[User talk:Daydreamers|talk]]) 23:51, 12 November 2023 (UTC) <small>— '''''Relisting.''''' [[User:Extraordinary Writ|Extraordinary Writ]] ([[User talk:Extraordinary Writ|talk]]) 08:08, 20 November 2023 (UTC)</small> <small>— '''''Relisting.''''' <b style="font-family:Monospace">-- [[User:Maddy from Celeste|Maddy from Celeste]] ([[User talk:Maddy from Celeste|WAVEDASH]])</b> 18:54, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</small> |
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* ''([[Talk:David Byrne (Irish criminal)#Requested move 28 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:David Byrne (Irish criminal)]] → [[David Byrne (criminal)]]''' – As far as I have noticed, there is no need to include his nationality in the disambiguation term. — [[User:BarrelProof|BarrelProof]] ([[User talk:BarrelProof|talk]]) 18:45, 28 November 2023 (UTC) |
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* ''([[Talk:Alexandrovsky Uyezd (disambiguation)#Requested move 28 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[Alexandrovsky Uyezd (disambiguation)]] → [[Alexandrovsky Uyezd]]''' – I don't think the one in Arkhangelsk Governorate is the [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]] - it's just the longest, and the other ones could totally be expanded using the same sources. Commas are also preferred over parentheses when disambiguating administrative divisions, and the different uyezds should use consistent spelling of the word. [[User:HappyWithWhatYouHaveToBeHappyWith|HappyWith]] ([[User talk:HappyWithWhatYouHaveToBeHappyWith|talk]]) 17:39, 28 November 2023 (UTC) |
* ''([[Talk:Alexandrovsky Uyezd (disambiguation)#Requested move 28 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[Alexandrovsky Uyezd (disambiguation)]] → [[Alexandrovsky Uyezd]]''' – I don't think the one in Arkhangelsk Governorate is the [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]] - it's just the longest, and the other ones could totally be expanded using the same sources. Commas are also preferred over parentheses when disambiguating administrative divisions, and the different uyezds should use consistent spelling of the word. [[User:HappyWithWhatYouHaveToBeHappyWith|HappyWith]] ([[User talk:HappyWithWhatYouHaveToBeHappyWith|talk]]) 17:39, 28 November 2023 (UTC) |
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* ''([[Talk:Blue balls#Requested move 28 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Blue balls]] → {{no redirect|Epididymal hypertension}}''' – Hello. I've recently restructured and added information on how the phenomenon manifests in women. As such I think that it is appropriate to rename the article to the official name, "Epididymal hypertension", as it is gender-neutral. Normally I don't really mind "gender neutrality", but since epididymal hypertension occurs for both women and men it seems more logical to use the gender-neutral name for it. [[User:Sprucecopse|Sprucecopse]] ([[User talk:Sprucecopse|talk]]) 16:58, 28 November 2023 (UTC) |
* ''([[Talk:Blue balls#Requested move 28 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Blue balls]] → {{no redirect|Epididymal hypertension}}''' – Hello. I've recently restructured and added information on how the phenomenon manifests in women. As such I think that it is appropriate to rename the article to the official name, "Epididymal hypertension", as it is gender-neutral. Normally I don't really mind "gender neutrality", but since epididymal hypertension occurs for both women and men it seems more logical to use the gender-neutral name for it. [[User:Sprucecopse|Sprucecopse]] ([[User talk:Sprucecopse|talk]]) 16:58, 28 November 2023 (UTC) |
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* ''([[Talk:Boy Next Door#Requested move 28 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Boy Next Door]] → {{no redirect|Boy Next Door (disambiguation)}}''' – Per [[WP:NCDAB]] [[User talk:98Tigerius|♒️ <span style="color:#FFD700">'''98TIGERIUS'''</span> 🐯]] 16:28, 28 November 2023 (UTC) |
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* ''([[Talk:Usage of electronic cigarettes#Requested move 28 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Usage of electronic cigarettes]] → {{no redirect|Vaping}}''' – Vaping is how people [[wikipedia:COMMONNAME|commonly use]] ecigs [[User:Chidgk1|Chidgk1]] ([[User talk:Chidgk1|talk]]) 13:20, 28 November 2023 (UTC) |
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* ''([[Talk:Stereotype (Cole Swindell album)#Requested move 28 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Stereotype (Cole Swindell album)]] → {{no redirect|Stereotype (album)}}''' – [[WP:PTOPIC]] [[User:Jax 0677|Jax 0677]] ([[User talk:Jax 0677|talk]]) 13:16, 28 November 2023 (UTC) |
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* ''([[Talk:Van Zant (band)#Requested move 20 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Van Zant (band)]] → [[Van Zant (duo)]]''' – They were best known as a duo, not a full band. "Duo" is an acceptable disambiguation term per pages such as [[Trout Fishing in America (duo)]]. I'd do this myself per [[WP:BOLD]], but the page seems to be move-protected. <span style="color:green">'''Ten Pound Hammer'''</span> • <sup>([[User talk:TenPoundHammer|What did I screw up now?]])</sup> 15:18, 20 November 2023 (UTC) <small>— '''''Relisting.''''' [[User:Robertsky|– robertsky]] ([[User talk:Robertsky|talk]]) 11:55, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</small> |
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* ''([[Talk:Typhoon Koinu (2023)#Requested move 28 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Typhoon Koinu (2023)]] → {{no redirect|Typhoon Koinu}}''' – - It currently is the only storm currently named Koinu, just rename it for now unless it gets retired. I agree with someone above who requested a move of this page. [[Special:Contributions/120.28.224.32|120.28.224.32]] ([[User talk:120.28.224.32|talk]]) 10:25, 28 November 2023 (UTC) |
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* ''([[Talk:Second Matabele War#Requested move 8 October 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Second Matabele War]] → {{no redirect|First Chimurenga}}''' – The discussion of renaming this page has not been touched in 15 years, but since the [[Second Chimurenga]]/[[Rhodesian Bush War]] page is having a similar discussion, I believe now is the time to revisit it. Per [[WP:COMMONNAME]], here is a [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=The+Chimurenga%2CFirst+Chimurenga%2CSecond+Matabele+War%2CMatabeleland+Rebellion&year_start=1890&year_end=2019&case_insensitive=on&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3 Google Ngram] for a few common names for the conflict. While "Second Matabele War" is certainly the oldest common name for the war, it has clearly not been the common term in over 40 years. I suggest using the term Chimurenga as it appears to be the most common, and I suggest First Chimurenga as the article title as it is both common and unambiguous. Chimurenga is also more accurate, referring to the conflicts fought by both the "Matabele" ([[Northern Ndebele people]]) in the north and "Mashona" ([[Shona people]]) in the south. While the article includes a section on both conflicts, the article title only refers to the former. [[User:Sophiet Union|Sophie]] ([[User talk:Sophiet Union|talk]]) 21:00, 8 October 2023 (UTC) <small>— '''''Relisting.''''' [[User:Extraordinary Writ|Extraordinary Writ]] ([[User talk:Extraordinary Writ|talk]]) 06:38, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</small> |
* ''([[Talk:Second Matabele War#Requested move 8 October 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Second Matabele War]] → {{no redirect|First Chimurenga}}''' – The discussion of renaming this page has not been touched in 15 years, but since the [[Second Chimurenga]]/[[Rhodesian Bush War]] page is having a similar discussion, I believe now is the time to revisit it. Per [[WP:COMMONNAME]], here is a [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=The+Chimurenga%2CFirst+Chimurenga%2CSecond+Matabele+War%2CMatabeleland+Rebellion&year_start=1890&year_end=2019&case_insensitive=on&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3 Google Ngram] for a few common names for the conflict. While "Second Matabele War" is certainly the oldest common name for the war, it has clearly not been the common term in over 40 years. I suggest using the term Chimurenga as it appears to be the most common, and I suggest First Chimurenga as the article title as it is both common and unambiguous. Chimurenga is also more accurate, referring to the conflicts fought by both the "Matabele" ([[Northern Ndebele people]]) in the north and "Mashona" ([[Shona people]]) in the south. While the article includes a section on both conflicts, the article title only refers to the former. [[User:Sophiet Union|Sophie]] ([[User talk:Sophiet Union|talk]]) 21:00, 8 October 2023 (UTC) <small>— '''''Relisting.''''' [[User:Extraordinary Writ|Extraordinary Writ]] ([[User talk:Extraordinary Writ|talk]]) 06:38, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</small> |
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* ''([[Talk:Planeta Group#Requested move 28 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Planeta Group]] → {{no redirect|Grupo Planeta}}''' – Original and common name, no need to translate it. [[User:FCBWanderer|FCBWanderer]] ([[User talk:FCBWanderer|talk]]) 02:08, 28 November 2023 (UTC) |
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⚫ | * ''([[Talk:Alpine foothills#Requested move 27 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Alpine foothills]] → {{no redirect|Prealps}}''' – "Prealps" is the term commonly used to refer to them (by official classifications such as SOIUSA/Partizione delle Alpi etc, as well as by mountaineers and the people in the countries were these mountains are located). "Foothills", besides being almost never used to refer to them, seems hardly suitable for mountains that are usually taller than 1,000 meters and in many cases than 2,000, with some exceeding 2,600 meters.--[[User:Potionkin|Potionkin]] ([[User talk:Potionkin|talk]]) 19:13, 27 November 2023 (UTC) |
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* ''([[Talk:Acclaim Studios Austin#Requested move 18 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Acclaim Studios Austin]] → {{no redirect|Iguana Entertainment}}''' – The name of the defunct studio for most of its existence. It was already established and respected as the developer before Acclaim bought the studio, Acclaim originally kept ten Iguana name for the first half of their ownership period, and as it was only named under the Acclaim banner for the last few years. Over 2/3 of the studio's history was under the Iguana name. [[User:Oknazevad|oknazevad]] ([[User talk:Oknazevad|talk]]) 14:43, 18 November 2023 (UTC) <small>— '''''Relisting.''''' — [[User:Mdaniels5757|Mdaniels5757]] ([[User talk:Mdaniels5757|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mdaniels5757|contribs]]) 18:49, 27 November 2023 (UTC)</small> |
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⚫ | * ''([[Talk:Rostov, Yaroslavl Oblast#Requested move 26 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Rostov, Yaroslavl Oblast]] → {{no redirect|Rostov}}''' – The previous move mightily screwed upo Wikipedia. [[Rostov-on-Don]] and [[Rostov]] are completely different names and should not be confused. For starters, Rostov is 500 years older than Rostov-on-Don and the move disruptedd a huge number of historical articles: Rostov has half-ythousand of incoming links. The move also introduced confusion it lots of bio articles. [[Rostov the Great]] and similar (screwed-up by renaming bot) is a nickname to historically great Rostov, not Rostov-on-Don. etc. This is a huge mistake to muve page with long-established usage and with huge number of links. - [[user:Altenmann|Altenmann]] [[user talk:Altenmann|>talk]] 21:25, 26 November 2023 (UTC) |
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* ''([[Talk:Christian I of Denmark#Requested move 26 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[Christian I of Denmark]] → {{no redirect|Christian I}}''' – These monarchs appear to be the {{wli|primary topics}} for the proposed names. [[WP:NCROY]] states the following: {{tq|Only use a territorial designation (e.g. country) when disambiguation is needed.}} However, in this case there is no need for disambiguation. Many of the listed monarchs are, in fact, the only monarch with the specific name and numeral. [[User:Векочел|Векочел]] ([[User talk:Векочел|talk]]) 20:43, 26 November 2023 (UTC) |
* ''([[Talk:Christian I of Denmark#Requested move 26 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[Christian I of Denmark]] → {{no redirect|Christian I}}''' – These monarchs appear to be the {{wli|primary topics}} for the proposed names. [[WP:NCROY]] states the following: {{tq|Only use a territorial designation (e.g. country) when disambiguation is needed.}} However, in this case there is no need for disambiguation. Many of the listed monarchs are, in fact, the only monarch with the specific name and numeral. [[User:Векочел|Векочел]] ([[User talk:Векочел|talk]]) 20:43, 26 November 2023 (UTC) |
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* ''([[Talk:Fascist Italy (1922–1943)#Requested move 16 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[Fascist Italy (1922–1943)]] → [[Fascist Italy]]''' – The name "Fascist Italy" is only used in two pages, this and the disambiguation page. Except the disambiguation page only has two (three if you count [[Italian Fascism]] at the bottom) links, and [[Italian Social Republic|the second one]] doesn't even have "Fascist Italy" in the name. Since "Fascist Italy" is a much simpler title, I request that, potentially under [[WP:COMMONNAME]], this page be moved to "Fascist Italy", and the disambiguation page be moved to "Fascist Italy (disambiguation)" or even deleted altogether, as it seems pretty redundant since the links "Italian Social Republic" and "Italian Fascism" can simply be placed at the top of the page like: "This article is about the Italian state from 1922 to 1943. For the puppet state of Nazi Germany, see Italian Social Republic. For Italian fascism in general, see Italian Fascism." This move is different from the two moves before requesting to move this page back to "Kingdom of Italy under Fascism", so the reasons for opposing those requests should probably not be used here, since this move is to a different name. [[User:AltendoYT|Al]][[User talk:AltendoYT|ten]][[Special:Contributions/AltendoYT|do]] 13:30, 16 November 2023 (UTC)<small>— '''''Relisting.''''' [[User:Wbm1058|wbm1058]] ([[User talk:Wbm1058|talk]]) 21:50, 24 November 2023 (UTC)</small> |
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* ''([[Talk:Saiō#Requested move 13 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[Saiō]] → {{no redirect|Ise Saiō}}''' – We previously had a [[Talk:Saiō#Requested_move_24_October_2023|requested move]] to [[Saigū]] but {{ping|Invokingvajras}} explained well how in fact we had been misunderstanding what a Saiō was. I have since changed almost all links to [[Saiō]] to [[Ise Saiō]] in preparation for this, so the disambiguation page will have very few links https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Sai%C5%8D [[Saigū]] now redirects to [[Saikū]]. There is a bit of [[Saikū]] vs [[Saigū]] debate brought up by {{ping|Ka-ru}}, so we might want to move [[Saikū Palace]] to [[Saigū Palace]], but I see this as a separate issue and do not know the solution. [[User:Immanuelle|'''Immanuel'''le]] ❤️💚💙 [[User_talk:Immanuelle|(talk to the cutest Wikipedian)]] 18:50, 13 November 2023 (UTC) <small>— '''''Relisting.''''' [[User:Reading Beans|Reading Beans]] ([[User talk:Reading Beans|talk]]) 19:11, 21 November 2023 (UTC)</small> |
* ''([[Talk:Saiō#Requested move 13 November 2023|Discuss]])'' – '''[[Saiō]] → {{no redirect|Ise Saiō}}''' – We previously had a [[Talk:Saiō#Requested_move_24_October_2023|requested move]] to [[Saigū]] but {{ping|Invokingvajras}} explained well how in fact we had been misunderstanding what a Saiō was. I have since changed almost all links to [[Saiō]] to [[Ise Saiō]] in preparation for this, so the disambiguation page will have very few links https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Sai%C5%8D [[Saigū]] now redirects to [[Saikū]]. There is a bit of [[Saikū]] vs [[Saigū]] debate brought up by {{ping|Ka-ru}}, so we might want to move [[Saikū Palace]] to [[Saigū Palace]], but I see this as a separate issue and do not know the solution. [[User:Immanuelle|'''Immanuel'''le]] ❤️💚💙 [[User_talk:Immanuelle|(talk to the cutest Wikipedian)]] 18:50, 13 November 2023 (UTC) <small>— '''''Relisting.''''' [[User:Reading Beans|Reading Beans]] ([[User talk:Reading Beans|talk]]) 19:11, 21 November 2023 (UTC)</small> |
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December 5, 2023
- (Discuss) – List of Gatineau roads → Roads in Gatineau – There's room to expand the scope, and there are reliable sources that cover the general quality of roads in the city. (ex: [1], [2]) This new scope would naturally serve as a child article to Gatineau#Roads. HappyWith (talk) 17:25, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Rostov, Yaroslavl Oblast → Rostov – The previous move mightily screwed upo Wikipedia. Rostov-on-Don and Rostov are completely different names and should not be confused. For starters, Rostov is 500 years older than Rostov-on-Don and the move disruptedd a huge number of historical articles: Rostov has half-ythousand of incoming links. The move also introduced confusion it lots of bio articles. Rostov the Great and similar (screwed-up by renaming bot) is a nickname to historically great Rostov, not Rostov-on-Don. etc. This is a huge mistake to muve page with long-established usage and with huge number of links. - Altenmann >talk 21:25, 26 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 15:44, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Alpine foothills → Prealps – "Prealps" is the term commonly used to refer to them (by official classifications such as SOIUSA/Partizione delle Alpi etc, as well as by mountaineers and the people in the countries were these mountains are located). "Foothills", besides being almost never used to refer to them, seems hardly suitable for mountains that are usually taller than 1,000 meters and in many cases than 2,000, with some exceeding 2,600 meters.--Potionkin (talk) 19:13, 27 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 15:06, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Cà Mau Airport → Ca Mau Airport – Non-diacritic name, to harmonize with other airport names in Vietnam (see Category:Airports in Vietnam). Đại Việt quốc (talk) 18:00, 1 December 2023 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 14:40, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Twin Towers → Redirect to World Trade Center (1973-2001) – According to https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&title=Twin_Towers (Statistics), most people searching up "Twin Towers" are looking for the World Trade Center (1973-2001). Please move this per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. SouthParkFan2006 (talk) 12:40, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Clement of Rome → Pope Clement I – Reverting undiscussed move to standard format for popes. Colonies Chris (talk) 11:15, 29 November 2023 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 07:46, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – BCX → BCX (software) – The page BCX (disambiguation) has no primary topic. The topic of the article currently at the base title, BCX, is very non-notable - I certainly had never heard of it before working on this dab page - and it's arguably even a borderline case of CSD A7. In fact, based on the pageviews, one would think that the primary topic would be Blood culture, although I think that argument is quite weak since relatively few people refer to a blood culture using the abbreviation "BCx" (and that would be a different capitalization anyways, so WP:DIFFCAPS could apply). (Also, please trout me if I'm doing this requested move wrong, as this is my first.) Duckmather (talk) 02:29, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Louise Hippolyte, Princess of Monaco → Louise Hippolyte – The princess seems to be the primary meaning for this title. Векочел (talk) 04:47, 27 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 01:54, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Master/slave (technology) → Master–slave (technology) – MOS:/. Master and slave (technology) is acceptable as well. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:38, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Arnold Adams (fighter) → Arnold Adams – not much information on Arnold Adams (cricketer) who has 0 views. https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2023-11-14&end=2023-12-04&pages=Arnold_Adams_%28fighter%29%7CArnold_Adams_%28cricketer%29. Fighter is primary and there are only two Arnold Adams Marty2Hotty (talk) 01:29, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Template:Like resume → Template:Like a resume – Grammatically correct, and reflects the actual wording of the text generated by the template, "This biographical article is written like a résumé". BD2412 T 01:29, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Thomas Hennessy → Thomas Hennessy (politician) – not WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Joeykai (talk) 00:48, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nicholas Grigsby (American football) → Nicholas Grigsby – unnecessary disambiguation Joeykai (talk) 00:45, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hinemoatū / Howard River → Howard River – Per WP:COMMONNAME, WP:CONCISE, and MOS:SLASH. The current title receives almost no use in reliable and independent sources; Google news returns no results, while Google Scholar returns only one - a primary and non-independent source. In comparison, Google News returns several relevant results for the proposed title, and Google Scholar returns dozens. The proposed title is also more concise and better aligns with MOS:SLASH. BilledMammal (talk) 08:07, 25 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans (talk) 00:32, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Doubtful Sound / Patea → Doubtful Sound – Per WP:COMMONNAME and MOS:SLASH. Searching Google News, we see that in the past year there have been seven articles using some form of "Doubtful Sound / Patea", but there has been almost 100 using "Doubtful Sound". Google Scholar shows a similar result, with two results for any form of "Doubtful Sound / Patea" and hundreds for "Doubtful Sound". While not all the results here are relevant - for example, one goes
The doubtful sound which is used to construct the uncanny island of The Tempest...
- the vast majority are, and given the paucity of results for any form of "Doubtful Sound / Patea" leave the COMMONNAME clear. BilledMammal (talk) 07:49, 25 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans (talk) 00:25, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Alleged Saudi role in the September 11 attacks → Alleged role of Saudi officials in the September 11 attacks – The current title is inaccurate, obviously biased & partisan, but also a stereotypical generalisation. When did citizens and/or officials (alleged or not) acting in a private or unofficial capacity become tantamount to an entire state or a nation? The phrasing "Saudi role" in the current title, implies directly that the Saudi Arabian state or the Saudi Arabian nation allegedly conspired with al-Qaeda hijackers in facilitating the September 11 attacks. This is a REDFLAG claim, since AQ was banned by Saudis in 1990s and Bin Laden had declared war to overthrow Saudi government in 1996 and his organization had launched attacks against Saudi targets. By May 2003, AQ had been waging a full-fledged armed insurgency against the Saudi government. When somebody says "German invasion": it implies that German state or German nation attacked another country. If non-state militias based in Germany attack another country, the event is not described as "German invasion" (This is simply a hypothetical example). Also, the German intelligence had contacts with Al-Qaeda's Hamburg cell before 9/11 (source) and members of this cell were key operatives in 9/11 attacks. Does this translate to an "alleged German role in 9/11 attacks"? None of the allegations have acccused the Saudi King Fahd or his inner circle of any role or contacts with the hijackers. Therefore, there is no "Saudi role" and the current title is incorrect and original research.
"article title precisely identifies the subject" WP:AT
Even though 3rd level or 4th level officials were accused, it doesnt mean accusing the government of some role, since they were acting in their private capacities. There is a casual display of American centrism throughout this article as well, giving undue weight to accusations by US politicians who have their own issues and Anglo-centric conspiracy theories. The one who is mentioned throughout this page, Omar al-Bayoumi, is not even a confirmed Saudi official which means that all these accusations are against an "alleged Saudi official". In summary, its clear that the current descriptive title is strongly biased. WP:POVNAME
The only reason why it remained for a few years since 2016 is due to the systemic bias prevelant in this encyclopaedia. Similar accusations against a Western country have never been inserted as a title in any wikipedia page. Arguments of concision cant be used in favour of the current title.
"The goal of concision is to balance brevity with sufficient information to identify the topic to a person familiar with the general subject area" WP:CONCISE
The current title with the phrase "Saudi role", as has been demonstrated above, is inaccurate and misleading to readers. Also, the current title is not consistent with other allegations pages. For example, the pages "Alleged CIA involvement in the Whitlam dismissal" and "Allegations of CIA assistance to Osama bin Laden" are not titled "Alleged US involvement in the Whitlam dismissal", or "Allegations of US assistance to Osama bin Laden"; despite CIA being a branch of US government. Additionally, the title of the page is a descriptive title. "Where there is no acceptable set name for a topic, such that a title of our own conception is necessary, more latitude is allowed to form descriptive and unique titles." WP:TITLEDAB The current descriptive title in the page is not non-judgmental.
"Avoid judgmental and non-neutral words; for example, allegation or alleged can either imply wrongdoing, or in a non-criminal context may imply a claim "made with little or no proof" and so should be avoided in a descriptive title." WP:NDESC It is obvious that the phrase "Alleged Saudi role" is judgmental as well as biased and conspiratorial. The phrase "Alleged role of Saudi officials" is precise, consistent as well as non-judgmental. Shadowwarrior8 (talk) 20:18, 16 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. estar8806 (talk) ★ 21:49, 24 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans (talk) 00:23, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
December 4, 2023
- (Discuss) – Anglo-Saxon settlement of Britain → Anglo-Saxon invasion of Britain – It is about three times more common than the current title per google ngram: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Saxon+settlement+of+Britain%2CSaxon+invasion+of+Britain&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3 Stephan rostie (talk) 23:51, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Cooperative Institute for Mesoscale Meteorological Studies → Cooperative Institute for Severe and High-Impact Weather Research and Operations – Since the CIMMS has been absorbed into the new "Cooperative Institute for Severe and High-Impact Weather Research and Operations" on October 1, 2021, shouldn't the article name be changed accordingly? Pierre cb (talk) 23:40, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of North Dakota Insurance Commissioners → List of North Dakota insurance commissioners – Move these pages to sentence-case per MOS:JOBTITLES. Commissioner, auditor, superintendent, and treasurer are all common nouns here because they are (A) plural and (B) used generically (not denoting a title or specific individual). Furthermore, as the manual of styles states: "the portfolio should be lower cased as it is not a proper noun on its own." Woko Sapien (talk) 22:23, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- List of North Dakota Commissioners of Agriculture and Labor → List of North Dakota commissioners of agriculture and labor
- List of Agriculture Commissioners of North Dakota → List of agriculture commissioners of North Dakota
- List of North Dakota State Auditors → List of North Dakota state auditors
- List of Labor Commissioners of North Dakota → List of labor commissioners of North Dakota
- List of North Dakota Superintendents of Public Instruction → List of North Dakota superintendents of public instruction
- List of North Dakota Public Service Commissioners → List of North Dakota public service commissioners
- List of North Dakota State Treasurers → List of North Dakota state treasurers
- List of North Dakota Tax Commissioners → List of North Dakota tax commissioners
- List of Superintendents of Public Instruction of Wisconsin → List of superintendents of public instruction of Wisconsin
- (Discuss) – Communist Organization of Angola → Communism in Angola – Enlarger scope in the article 2804:14C:5BB1:9473:4C5B:1EFE:767:1521 (talk) 22:21, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – ICER → ICER (file format) – No primary topic. The nonprofit Institute for Clinical and Economic Review gets more page views than the file format, and Google Scholar results return a wide variety of topics in which the file format does not prominently figure. ICER file format doesn't appear to be an expandable acronym. (t · c) buidhe 22:08, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Guayana Esequiba → Guyana–Venezuela territorial dispute – The proposed name "Guyana–Venezuela territorial dispute" is a neutral name that abides to multiple criteria listed in WP:TITLE; it is a non-judgmental descriptive title, it is precise and concise by briefly explaining the topic and finally it is consistent with similar articles such as Belizean–Guatemalan territorial dispute, Chilean–Peruvian territorial dispute, Croatia–Slovenia border disputes, Croatia–Serbia border dispute and Cambodian–Thai border dispute. The term "Guayana Esequiba" is POV, only being promoted by Venezuelan claims for a state of the same name while the term "Essequibo" is not used by Guyana at all since it has six different regions in the area with separate names. WMrapids (talk) 21:50, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – English phrasal verbs → Phrasal verb – WP:SINGULAR and WP:OVERPRECISION. The article was boldly moved in 2021 for disambiguation, but disambiguation from what? There is no hatnote indicating other Wikipedia articles that discuss phrasal verbs in non-English languages. It also does not seem clear why the topic was made plural in that move. — BarrelProof (talk) 21:34, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Chonma-ho → Chonma (tank) – Chonma-ho is the designation given by western analysts; North Korea only use the name Chonma without the -ho suffix DevonianShark (talk) 18:42, 27 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Lightoil (talk) 20:32, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Henry Brown (American clergyman) → Henry Brown (clergyman, born 1848) – Disambiguation from Reverend Henry Brown (which also has an open RM). — BarrelProof (talk) 19:40, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Willful blindness → Willful ignorance – For improved recognizability. The target already redirects here and has for 16 years, and the body of the article already uses the suggested title in four places, including a quote in a citation of a scholarly book on the subject that uses the suggested word in its title. — BarrelProof (talk) 19:04, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Yakub Holovatsky → Yakiv Holovatsky – WP:COMMONNAME, per Google Ngram.[3] —Michael Z. 17:06, 27 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 17:27, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Reverend Henry Brown → Henry Brown (reverend) – His title is not part of his name and should not be included in the name of the article (except as a parenthetical to disambiguate). Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 17:15, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Flatbush → Flatbush (disambiguation) – The WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "Flatbush" is "Flatbush, Brooklyn and it should be a redirect, with "Flatbush redirects here" hatnote. "Flatbush, Brooklyn" is by far the most-viewed article out of the pages linked from the disambig page. See: https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=all-time&pages=Flatbush%7CFlatbush,_Brooklyn%7CFlat_Bush%7CFlatbush,_Alberta%7CFlatbush_(TV_series) Ich (talk) 16:59, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Vietka → Vyetka – Per WP:BELARUSIANNAMES. The letter "е" in Belarusian should be romanized as "ye" (Vyetka). Mellk (talk) 16:48, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tai-pan → Taipan (corporate title) – WP:COMMONNAME: both OED and Merriam-Webster give the word as "taipan", no hyphen. Disambig is needed since taipan (the snake) is clearly the primary topic. SilverStar54 (talk) 19:05, 26 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 13:57, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – India national cricket team → India men's national cricket team – Per WP:PRECISE, WP:RNEUTRAL, and WP:CONSISTENT. Currently, there is one page called the India national cricket team and another called the India women's national cricket team. Either both teams have to be gendered or none. All the players on the men's team are men, like all players on the women's team are women. Therefore, the current article title lacks precision, neutrality, and consistency. There is clear precedent for such article naming in the field hockey teams, one for the men's team and another for the women's team. In light of the need for consistency with sporting team article titles (WP:CONSISTENT), precision (WP:PRECISE), and neutrality (WP:RNEUTRAL), I propose to move India national cricket team to India men's national cricket team. This move should probably be executed for all gendered sports teams, but the broader question might have to be addressed through CAT:WNCP and WP:NCST. At this time, the page India men's national cricket team redirects to India national cricket team. Instead, India national cricket team should be a disambiguation page with the men's and women's teams listed in it. Such naming would also be consistent with the opening sentence of the men's page, which states: The India men's national cricket team, also known as the Men in Blue or most commonly Team India, represent India in men's international cricket. -Mad Maths (talk) 13:37, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lake Ellesmere / Te Waihora → Lake Ellesmere – Per WP:COMMONNAME, WP:CONCISE, and MOS:SLASH. Reliable sources overwhelmingly prefer the proposed title; for the past year Google News provides 23 results for any form of the current title, while providing hundreds of results for the proposed title. The proposed title is also more concise, and better conforms with MOS:SLASH. BilledMammal (talk) 08:37, 25 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 12:07, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Drainage system (geomorphology) → Drainage pattern – As per short description and section titles. Drainage patterns is a related original title. Also for natural disambiguation with Drainage system (agriculture). Finally, notice this article could well have a different suffix, Drainage system (hydrology). fgnievinski (talk) 02:35, 4 December 2023 (UTC) fgnievinski (talk) 02:35, 4 December 2023 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – Joe (talk) 08:24, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gay bishops → LGBT bishops – The lead of this page starts off with: "This article largely discusses presence of openly lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender and queer bishops in churches governed under episcopal polities. The existence of LGBTQ bishops in the Anglican, Lutheran, Methodist and other traditions is a matter of historical record, though never, until recently, were LGBTQ clergy and bishops ordained by any of the main Christian denominations." It is therefore clear that the article encompasses more than simply gay bishops and that this is not the sole or even necessarily the primary focus of the page, as lesbian, bisexual and transgender are also primary points of focus. Helper201 (talk) 22:54, 24 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 08:13, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Immunomodulatory imide drug → Cereblon E3 ligase modulator – The current title is not the common name. Since the main mechanism of action of these drugs was definitively discovered, the nomenclature seems to have changed. (t · c) buidhe 05:34, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – San-Pédro, Ivory Coast → San-Pédro – I felt ever since signing on to WP that some editors would want to have me on the wrong side of the policies so as to get me blocked/banned and 162 etc. is proven to be one of them. Having gone quiet and not opposed to my title change request listed at WP:RMTR that went through and its associated category got moved unopposed, they all of a sudden popped up and subsequently listed a counter-move/move reversion for the purposes of "undiscussed" and ambiguity in this clearly unambiguous title, which is truly beyond me. It seems clearly that they were unaware about the movements pagewise and only heeded to what was on the San Pedro DAB page (which didn't reflect the title change at the time) until I intervened. Intrisit (talk) 11:50, 11 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. EggRoll97 (talk) 17:44, 21 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 05:09, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Pernille Harder (footballer) → Pernille Harder – Pernille Harder the footballer is significantly more famous than Pernille Harder the badminton player. The page views for their pages shows this. Furthermore, the badminton player is retired, while the footballer Pernille Harder is only getting increasingly famous. It's more precise to just say Pernille Harder. A caption on top directing people to the badminton player would be appropriate. Helpfulwikieditoryay (talk) 04:37, 13 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Natg 19 (talk) 01:21, 21 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 04:57, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Slut! → "Slut!" – The quotation marks are part of the title, and multiple critics have pointed out the quotation marks as a defining feature of this song. Ippantekina (talk) 04:47, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Manhattan Lady Jaspers softball → Manhattan Jaspers softball – per discussion here Joeykai (talk) 03:07, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Theodore Bar Konai → Theodore bar Konai – The word "bar" means 'son of' and should not be capitalized. Please see the other biographies in Category:Syriac writers. Nebulousquasar (talk) 00:30, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
December 3, 2023
- (Discuss) – Golden Age of Television (2000s–present) → Peak TV – As a growing consensus is building—substantial enough that even if it is not yet majority (though I would argue by 2023 that it is), it is more than enough to conclude there is no longer a consensus that it remains ongoing—that the age has ended, continuing to have "present" in the article title is no longer appropriate. J. Myrle Fuller (talk) 23:57, 25 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 17:59, 3 December 2023 (UTC) Adjusting' to reflect change in consensus from original proposal ("Golden Age of Television (early 21st century)") after discussion. J. Myrle Fuller (talk) 22:36, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Julian (emperor) → Julian the Apostate – WP:COMMONNAME, this is how he is usually known. I realise that some might consider that this reflects Christian bias. However since nearly everything we know about him has been filtered through Christian sources, even non-Christians usually refer to him by this name e.g. even the Turkish Wikipedia uses a version of this name in its opening line. PatGallacher (talk) 22:34, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Template:Aspects of capitalism → Template:Capitalism – Navboxes are typically named after the topic. I think this navbox should be consistent with them. cf. {{Socialism}}, {{Communism}}, {{Libertarianism}}, {{Liberalism}}, {{Conservatism}}, {{Fascism}} etc. Existing 85 links to the redirect that currently leads to {{Capitalism sidebar}} should be updated to directly lead there beforehand. –Vipz (talk) 20:43, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Fail-fast → Fail-fast (information technology) – There is a very similarly named page Fail fast that is about business, which is confusing. I propose renaming that page too Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 09:50, 18 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. BegbertBiggs (talk) 18:04, 26 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. — mw (talk) (contribs) 19:29, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Karakum Desert → Karakum – Main meaning. - Altenmann >talk 03:25, 25 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 18:53, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Pour → Pour (disambiguation) – To redirect Pour to Pouring. Steel1943 (talk) 17:39, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Moshtaq Yaqoubi → Moshtagh Yaghoubi – "Moshtagh Yaghoubi" was the original name of this article, and we should revert to that. The article's sources write the name "Moshtagh Yaghoubi". Also, Google gives 28,400 hits for "Moshtagh Yaghoubi" and only 6 hits for "Moshtaq Yaqoubi". 62.113.190.191 (talk) 17:17, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Varsha → Varsha (disambiguation) – Varsha (Telugu actress) is known by her first name. Jax 0677 (talk) 16:07, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Luninets → Luninyets – Per WP:BELARUSIANNAMES. The letter "е" in Belarusian should be romanized as "ye" (Luninyets). I also do not see "Luninets" as being the common name; there is a greater number of results returned on Google for "Luninyets". Mellk (talk) 11:36, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wolverhampton Civic Hall → The Halls, Wolverhampton – This is the official name of the complex (see website), and the Civic Hall, the current article subject, has always just been a part of the complex since its opening in 1938. See also comment above from 77.103.105.243 Tevildo (talk) 22:49, 9 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. EggRoll97 (talk) 15:07, 17 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 11:11, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – White Island → White Island (disambiguation) – Whakaari / White Island is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for White Island, and this should be a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT to it; Wikinav shows that most readers are looking for this island, and that the remainder are looking for the eruption that took place on it. Similarly, pageviews shows that none of the alternatives receive many views; this island received 520,000 views in the past year, compared to 14,000 for all other topics directly using the name "White Island" put together. Google News results also support this; in the past month there have been 38 results for the name "White Island"; of these, 18 referred to Whakaari / White Island, 9 referred to other topics ("white island bench" etc), 2 referred to a "White's Island", two referred to a film called "White Island", and only seven referred to other locations known as White Island. BilledMammal (talk) 10:53, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Snares Islands / Tini Heke → Snares Islands – Per WP:COMMONNAME, WP:CONCISE, and MOS:SLASH. The proposed title is the clear COMMONNAME; a Google News search shows dozens of relevant results for it, compared to just six for any form of the dual name. Similarly, a Google Scholar search shows hundreds of results for the proposed name, compared to 43 for any form of the dual name. Ngrams also support the proposed title, with use of any form of the dual name too low to register while registering use of the single name. Note that most Google News results for the dual name prefer the proposed title; they typically use the dual name just once in their article, and use the proposed title on every other mention. Tini Heke, as an alternative possibility, received almost no use and is not an alternative common name candidate. BilledMammal (talk) 10:20, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Donbass Arena → Donbas Arena – WP:UKR СлаваУкраїні 10:01, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – North-Western Area Command (RAAF) → North-Western Area Command – Redirects here anyway, and the name is not ambiguous, so it needs no " (RAAF)" disambiguation string, plus the move would make it WP:CONSISTENT with the corresponding North-Eastern Area Command article. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 09:44, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Clam AntiVirus → ClamAV – "ClamAV" is the official, trademarked name of the software and to my knowledge has always been its functional name (as in file names and internal documentation) and its common name in plain speech. I can only guess that the motivation for the current expansion in the title is to avoid ambiguity, but I don't believe that should apply here since "ClamAV" is being used as a proper name rather than merely an abbreviation, and I don't see a practical concern that this name is ambiguous - "ClamAV" already redirects here. Ham Pastrami (talk) 07:13, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mars, Incorporated → Mars Inc. – WP:COMMONNAME (the "Inc." rendering is much more common than the longwinded "Incorporated" one [4]), WP:CONCISE, and WP:CONSISTENT (with most other articles that need this corporate designator for disambiguation reasons, e.g. Apple Inc., Adobe Inc., Time Inc., Canon Inc., Caterpillar Inc., Snap Inc., Panic Inc., etc.). — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 03:36, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Pagan religions of Azerbaijan → Pre-Abrahamic religions of Azerbaijan – This was the original page title; it appears to have been moved unilaterally. "Pagan" is not really a precise or helpful way to describe a religion in general, and the old title seems fine. Anonymous 03:01, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of museums with Egyptian Mummies on display → List of museums with Egyptian Mummies in their collections – Means we don't have to track mummies being rotated off display (or simply removed pitt rivers was very quiet with their removal for example) and deaccessioning is more likely to get coverage in reliable sources ©Geni (talk) 01:40, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tom Bradley (American politician) → Tom Bradley – Tom Bradley is the most notable historical individual with the name per Wikipedia:Article titles. Every other Los Angeles Mayor is deemed noteworthy enough to not have the (American politician) parenthesis afterwards. Bradley is LA's longest-serving and most significant Mayor, overseeing its transformation from a conservative white city to a liberal Latino-plurality one. We can drop the (American politician) here. Plumber (talk) 01:18, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Venezuelan opposition → Opposition to chavismo – Per WP:PRECISION, current title in the Spanish version. Opposition movements in Venezuela have included those against the 20th century dictatorships, including that of Juan Vicente Gómez (Generation of 1928) and Marcos Pérez Jiménez (Junta Patriótica ). NoonIcarus (talk) 10:03, 22 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. BegbertBiggs (talk) 00:26, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Rosario, Santa Fe → Rosario, Argentina – Per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names)#Argentina, the first method of disambiguation for Argentine cities and towns is Argentina, not the province. This is of course if it is the only populated place in Argentina with that name. For the case of Rosario, it seems that it is. Paul Vaurie (talk) 00:10, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Surya Vamsha → Suryavamsha (film) – Name per all sources in article and official name per CBFC certificate and title card [5] [6]. DareshMohan (talk) 00:01, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
December 2, 2023
- (Discuss) – Stage Front Stadium → Cornellà - El Prat Stadium – It makes no sense to have this article named under a temporary name due to sponsorship reasons, unlike every other article about Spanish stadiums. The article for the FC Barcelona stadium is Camp Nou (not Spotify Camp Nou), the article for Real Sociedad stadium is Anoeta Stadium (not Reale Arena), the article for Atlético de Madrid stadium is Metropolitano Stadium (not Civitas Metropolitano), and so on. 83.42.191.26 (talk) 16:50, 24 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. BegbertBiggs (talk) 23:58, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Holywell → Holywell (disambiguation) – The Flintshire town has the most commonly visited page from the DAB page, and it's visited more often than the other place articles linked to from the DAB page are in total. I don't know if you can glean any useful information from the ngram page. The Holywell DAB page was only visited 122 times in October, but WikiNav has some statistics for it anyway.[1] 38 visitors went on to the Holywell, Flintshire article, 29 visits were filtered from the results, and none are recorded for any other destination. This does, at least, show that most of links people followed to another article from the DAB page were to the Flintshire town. September's data appears similar, but I don't know how to get a "filtered" total for it. Holywell, Flintshire is more frequently visited than the other Holywell pages, with 20,980 visits over a year compared with 7,923 for the Cornish Holywell[2] and 10,019 in total for the various other places listed on the DAB page.[3] Given how few people visit the DAB page, I don't think a hatnote would need to be more than just {{about|the town in Flintshire}} after this move.
References
- ^ "WikiNav (Holywell)". Retrieved 18 November 2023.
- ^ "Pageviews Analysis". Retrieved 18 November 2023.
- ^ "Pageviews Analysis". Retrieved 18 November 2023.
- Aoeuidhtns (talk) 17:49, 18 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. BegbertBiggs (talk) 23:46, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Birka female Viking warrior → Bj 581 – I think this page should be moved to Bj 581 because it is more neutral and more academic. There is no consensus that Bj 581 is a warrior. All sides of the academic debate have referred to her as Bj 581. The grave was called that before she was known to be she. It is more unique. If another weapons grave in Birka is found to have a female occupant, then the article would have to be moved anyway. Tinynanorobots (talk) 17:24, 25 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 21:48, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Stanley Meyer's water fuel cell → Water fuel cell – This should be a completely uncontroversial move as the target already redirects here, but as a result of a train-wreck RM over a decade ago we're in an awkward spot here. Titles are not endorsements; by far the most common use of this term is to refer to this particular design. Whether it works or not is irrelevant; the sole concern is how it fits into our naming conventions, and the shorter title is the right one. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 21:35, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gestalt Practice → Gestalt practice – Suggestion to bring the article more in line with common usage, other types of practices and other Gestalt concepts. An argument could be made that "Gestalt Practice" is a proper name referring to the process developed and implemented by its author, Dick Price at Esalen. However, it seems clear that there are many practitioners developing it beyond and outside the original source material, and in my view, the project would benefit from an article that covers the concept more broadly. This would make it a common compound noun, styled "Gestalt practice" per "avoid unnecessary capitalization" WP:MOS and WP:CAPITALIZATION. Ngrams history shows "Gestalt practice" has generally been the most common styling [7]. Many publications[8] on the subject and practitioners (and the footnotes of this article) write "Gestalt practice", while practitioners closely tied to Price’s institutions (Esalen[9], for example) tend to write "Gestalt Practice". I believe styling the phrase as a common noun also invites contributions of a broader scope without deemphasizing the practice's basic principles. Wow Mollu (talk) 20:37, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Intermediate egret → Medium egret – IOC has split the species and this is the English common name they give for the nominate subspecies Quetzal1964 (talk) 21:29, 1 December 2023 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Station1 (talk) 19:05, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sangolli Rayanna (film) → Krantiveera Sangolli Rayanna – Official name, no need for parentheticals per CBFC certificate [10]. Reviews also use this name as does the film's YouTube's official videos [11] DareshMohan (talk) 08:30, 18 November 2023 (UTC)— Relisting. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 17:27, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Runchorelal baronets → Ranchhodlal baronets – As per WP:COMMMONNAME. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 05:17, 1 December 2023 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 16:34, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – History of French animation → French animation – The american animation and japanese animation doesn't have history in title as well as all things related to french animation is included not just history Changeworld1984 (talk) 12:29, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Racism in the Arab world → Arab racism – the current title is a prime example of WP:WEASEL, the article is clearly about racism by Arabs. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:49, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Coronation of Napoleon → Coronation of Napoleon and Joséphine – Given the fact that the two of them were crowned together, I don't see why we should omit his wife's name. The names of the consorts are attached to the names of the monarchs when the two of them are crowned simultaneously. Examples include Coronation of Bokassa I and Catherine, Coronation of Charles III and Camilla, Coronation of Nicholas II and Alexandra Feodorovna, etc. Keivan.fTalk 02:21, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – U.S. economic performance under Democratic and Republican presidents → ? – The title seems to be a bit long for an article. I was hoping that someone can suggest a shorter article title that would work well. Interstellarity (talk) 02:07, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Herman Miller → Herman Miller (company) – The company does not appear to be primary over the combined notability of the politician and the writer. As for the parenthetical qualifier "(company)", Category:Furniture companies of the United States lists Haworth (company), HSM (company) and Turnstone (company). Also, since there are no other politicians named "Herman Miller", the qualifier "(Wisconsin politician)" can be reduced to "(politician)". Finally, if the company is not primary, the dab page would not need the qualifier "(disambiguation)". A tangentially related nomination is currently active at Talk:Hermann Müller (politician, born 1876)#Requested move 1 December 2023. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 01:51, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
December 1, 2023
- (Discuss) – Thung Liang Lee → Tang Liangli – WP:NCZH: Tang Liangli is significantly more common than Thung Liang Lee SilverStar54 (talk) 23:08, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wen Tsungyao → Wen Zongyao – WP:NCZH: Wen Zongyao has become more common than Wen Tsung-yao. SilverStar54 (talk) 23:02, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Saldus Municipality (2021–present) → Saldus Municipality – As the current form of the municipality, this is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. 99% of the time, a reader searching "Saldus Municipality" would be trying to find the current version, not the old version. This is also demonstrated by the difference in pageviews, and is how the Latvian version of the articles already do it. The disambiguation page should be deleted to make room - a hatnote can be put in to clarify if there's confusion. HappyWith (talk) 23:00, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hermann Müller (politician, born 1876) → Hermann Müller – Noting this page was until recently Hermann Müller (politician). Müller the chancellor seems to be the clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC here, with all other Hermann Müllers who use disambiguators only reaching single and double digit pageviews, as well as having greater long-term significance as one of the last Weimar chancellors. Curbon7 (talk) 22:21, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kaliyikkavila → Kaliyakkavilai – Official name per census and [12] [13]. This name refers to the Kerala side (no city?) [14], which is not what this article is about. DareshMohan (talk) 20:20, 23 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. BegbertBiggs (talk) 21:52, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Rat Saw God → Rat Saw God (Veronica Mars) – The two topics have comparable long-term significance, and the album has a substantial lead in pageviews, so I believe the album is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for this title. The album has been out for most of a year, so I believe its pageviews have likely reached a stable equilibrium after their initial spike. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 21:50, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – DV → DV (video) – (open to other suggested modifiers, like (format) or (video format)) No primary topic for this digram. Attempting to measure long-term signifiance, searches on Google Books, Scholar, and Search all have very mixed results, including for this video format, distance vector, dating or domestic violence, Diversity Visa, etc. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 20:38, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2023 Rainbow Bridge explosion → 2023 Rainbow Bridge border crossing explosion – No "explosion on the Rainbow Bridge". Jax 0677 (talk) 20:10, 23 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. BegbertBiggs (talk) 20:26, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lovin On Me → Lovin on Me – per MOS:CAPS as the word "on" is a preposition. 23.134.91.238 (talk) 06:34, 17 November 2023 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 162 etc. (talk) 02:29, 24 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Lightoil (talk) 20:16, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Av → Av (month) – (and redirect Av to AV) No primary topic for this digram regardless of whether the second letter is lowercase; for most two-letter combinations, readers are not expected to capitalize their search to find the disambiguation page unless the topic has extremely high significance (Ra, pi, qi, Ur) or there are very few alternative meanings (Hy, Vy?). No evidence that the month's significance is this high; more pageviews go to the disambiguation page than this one most months. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 20:15, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Yo → Yo (greeting) – No primary topic for this simple two-letter combination. Hard to measure, but no evidence that this has more long-term significance than the Spanish pronoun. Pageviews only barely clear the field. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 19:52, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ty → Ty (company) – No primary topic for this simple two-letter combination. No evidence this topic has long-term significance for the digram; searches mostly return people with the name Ty. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 19:31, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tom Scott (composer, born 1948) → Tom Scott (saxophonist) – Main notability seems to be as saxophonist per SD Union Tribune; no need for a contrived parallel to Tom Scott (composer, born 1912). Hameltion (talk | contribs) 18:31, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wikipedia:Editors matter → Wikipedia:Wikipedia does need you – Would this seem better? Kinda like a counter essay to Wikipedia:Wikipedia does not need you. Thanks, Wikiexplorationandhelping (talk) 18:27, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Amirabad (29°28′ N 56°25′ E), Baft → ? – These disambiguator are rather unnatural and I find it hard to believe that someone would be able to find the current Amirabad, Baft or Amirabad, Dorud just by looking at the coordinates in the disambiguator. I have lived in a variety of places, none of which I have known the coordinates for. It seems that if there is any possibly more natural disambiguator, we should go with that; however, knowing almost nothing about Iran, I have brought this here to see what ideas people who might know more about Iran than myself would have. TartarTorte 23:02, 15 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 05:19, 23 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 18:26, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Right-bank Ukraine → Right-Bank Ukraine – WP:COMMONNAME. The names are fully capitalized in most sources according to Google Ngram.[15][16] Surveying the standard histories, we see the following in their index: * Orest Subtelny 2009 [1988], Ukraine: A History, 4th ed.: Left Bank (758), Right Bank (770). * Paul R. Magocsi 1996, A History of Ukraine, 1st ed.: Left Bank (752), Right Bank (767). * Serhy Yekelchyk 2007, Ukraine: Birth of a Modern Nation: Left-Bank Ukraine, Left Bank (272), Right-Bank Ukraine, Right Bank (275). * Andrew Wilson 2015, The Ukrainians, Unexpected Nation, 4th ed.: Left Bank (404), Right Bank (406). * Serhii Plokhy 2021, The Frontline: Essays on Ukraine’s Past and Present: Left Bank Ukraine (393), Right-Bank Ukraine (396) [I used this book because the terms don’t appear in the index of Plokhy’s Gates of Europe; yes, only one is hyphenated in the index]. —Michael Z. 18:19, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sathish → Sathish Muthukrishnan – WP:NOPT. Jax 0677 (talk) 17:12, 23 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 18:14, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hoy → Hoy, Orkney – No primary topic. By usage, the island doesn't get more pageviews than all others combined. By signifiance, Google Scholar and Books results for
hoy -author:hoy
are split between Hoy as a name and Spanish for today. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 18:07, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – OQ (disambiguation) → OQ – (overwriting redirect to National Order of Quebec) No primary topic for this simple two-letter combination. Google Search results favor OQ (company), Google Scholar the Outcome Questionnaire 45 and other "OQ system" measures – neither of which is the current target. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 17:56, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ralph Peña → Ralph Peña (director) – It is not clear that the subject of this article is more notable than Ralph Peña (musician). --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 17:45, 24 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 17:56, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – UF (disambiguation) → UF – (overwriting redirect to University of Florida) Simple two-letter combination. Most Google Search results for University of Florida, but Scholar results for ultrafiltration → no primary topic. Most inlinks to UF are from obscure species articles and were added in 2008–2012. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 17:45, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Vi → Vi (text editor) – (and redirect Vi to VI) Even with the second letter lowercase, this is a simple two-letter combination for which there is no primary topic. This subject's long-term significance not at the same height as primary topics Ra, Ur, qi, or pi. Google Search's first results are for the text editor, but this may be inauthentic – Google also jokingly displays
Did you mean: EMACS
. A Google Scholar search for"vi" -author:vi
shows results almost entirely for "vi" as the Roman numeral (capitalized of course). Lastly, this topic doesn't significantly clear Vi (League of Legends) in terms of pageviews. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 17:30, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – John A. Olszewski Jr. → ? – This page is currently named in a way that does not follow WP:COMMONNAME and WP:Middle names. Local media websites write his name as Johnny Olszewski (WBAL, Baltimore Brew, Baltimore County Government) or Johnny Olszewski Jr. (BaltSun, Maryland Matters, WTOP) I feel that the page should be moved to either Johnny Olszewski Jr. or Johnny Olszewski (politician) to fix this issue. Y2hyaXM (talk) 17:56, 23 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 17:17, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Oa → Oa (comics) – (and redirect Oa to OA) This title is a simple two-letter combination, lowercase second letter notwithstanding. There would be need to be a strong significance argument to keep this here, which I'm not seeing. A search for
oa -"the oa"
does not indicate there's a primary topic for this digram. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 17:11, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Black slave owners in the United States → African-American slave owners – The associated category will be renamed per Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_23#Category:Black_slave_owners_in_the_United_States, and similar arguments about the use of African American instead of Black apply here, as suggested by Marcocapelle (talk · contribs). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:31, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Pitsos → BSH Home Appliances (Greece) – The company has been rebranded, so I think that the corresponding article on Wikipedia should be renamed. 79.167.213.141 (talk) 13:30, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Philippines v. China → South China Sea Arbitration – As per WP:COMMONNAME, the PCA case has been commonly referred to virtually by most news outlets as the South China Sea arbitration case/ruling or variations of thereof and not Philippines vs. China which does not really tell much about the scope of the case. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 11:34, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ureteric stent → Ureteral stent – Name is used more often on page including all captions and first entry Iztwoz (talk) 09:48, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – FC Precizia Săcele → CSM Săcele – The club was renamed in the summer of 2023 as CSM Săcele due to club re-organization. Official website of Brașov County Football Association frf-ajf.ro. Rhinen (talk) 09:22, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Doctor Who (series 14) → ? – Per WP:WHO/MOS#Terminology, the previous seasons/series of Doctor Who have been titled "Season #" for the classic era, and "Series #" for the revived era, noting the difference from when the programme moved from Season 26 to Series 1 upon the 2005 revival. This had lead up to Series 13 in 2021. According to interviews with the showrunner, as well as entries on the official Doctor Who websites, the numbering system is to be reset, to define a new "era". That is, what has previous been referred to as Series 14, will now be referred to as Season 1. The questions are: # Should this article be retitled to reflect this change to "Season 1", or should it remain at its "Series 14" title? # If the article should be renamed, what should it be renamed to? (This is given that Doctor Who (season 1) already exists, representing the 1963–64 season, and Doctor Who (series 1) exists, representing the 2005 series.) # Upon this renaming, should (and thus, what) should the previous seasons be renamed to? Note that if this article title is changed, this should reflect upon the following entries within the programme. -- Alex_21 TALK 07:51, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – James Mueller (Indiana politician) → James Mueller – Consistently gets the most page views by far (apart from when Jim Mueller was on the In the news section of the Main page). Also Jim Mueller is more commonly referred to as Jim not James and so the only other article is James Mueller (Ohio politician) who doesn't seems to have any long term significance. Sahaib (talk) 07:38, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Dartmouth College fraternities and sororities → Dartmouth College Greek organizations – This is technically a request for a reversion. I recognise that Rublamb gave this page its current name as (I'm assuming) part of the fraternities and sororities WikiProject, but this new name does sort of obscure the fact that Dartmouth houses three gender-inclusive Greek houses that do not refer to themselves as fraternities and sororities. The article itself uses "Greek organization" as an umbrella term quite liberally, anyway. CongealedBox (talk) 03:05, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Capitalist Manifesto → The Capitalist Manifesto (1958 book) – Now that it is clear that there are both other books named "The Capitalist Manifesto" and that there are current articles with that title, I am requesting that a controversial move be made of The Capitalist Manifesto to redirect to The Capitalist Manifesto (disambiguation) and that this current article content instead be moved to The Capitalist Manifesto (1958 book) to clearly disambiguate between these similarly named books. Also more articles are coming as well regarding the Kiyosaki book, but this solves that problem too. Iljhgtn (talk) 01:27, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – European cable television frequencies → European and South Asian cable television frequencies – Not just Europe, but also the same cable television frequencies used in South Asia as cable television is popular there. HarmonZach (talk) 00:49, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gregory Despres → Murders of Fred Fulton and Veronica "Verna" Decarie – I feel like this article's focal point should be shifted to the murders themselves, and the information surrounding the perpetrator can be moved further down in the article. Fundamentally, this person is only notable for this murder case, so I feel as if it would be more appropriate to have the article named after the murder case itself B3251 (talk) 00:38, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
November 30, 2023
- (Discuss) – Names for books of Judeo-Christian scripture → Names for books of Jewish and Christian scripture – article covers books that are not just common to both religions (i.e., Judeo-Christian) but also ones that are specifically Jewish or specifically Christian. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 23:41, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Yaarukku Theriyum → Challenge (2012 film) – Kannada version released first. The film includes Kannada actors Achyuth Kumar, Harish Raj and Dileep Raj. DareshMohan (talk) 21:57, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jonson (name) → Jonson – WP:PTOPIC and need histmerge. Jax 0677 (talk) 21:55, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Girivalam (religious practice) → Girivalam – The weird parenthetical could potentially reduce pageviews. This page was previously held at Arunachala#Girivalam which had 11k views. This is the WP:Primary topic because [17] all Google News is about this practice only and nothing else. I agree with @Accesscrawl: DareshMohan (talk) 20:42, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Copa Libertadores → CONMEBOL Libertadores – A user moved this page to CONMEBOL Libertadores with the rationale "For some years now, CONMEBOL, which is the organizer of the event, has been advertising the expression “CONMEBOL Libertadores” as the new name of the competition. So it is only fair that this article recognizes the new official name of the competition." The article was then moved back to Copa Libertadores with the rationale WP:RMUM. The page was again moved to CONMEBOL Libertadores with the same rationale. I moved it back here to maintain status quo and to start a move discussion to avert a move war. I don't have a preference one way or the other myself TartarTorte 18:52, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Beverly Goebel Yanez → Bev Yanez – WP:COMMONNAME per, e.g., source. Seany91 (talk) 15:24, 30 November 2023 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Seany91 (talk) 18:28, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Recognition of same-sex unions in Nepal → Same-sex marriage in Nepal – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. Doomdorm64 (talk) 15:53, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Confidence trick → Scam – As per WP:COMMONNAME, the name "scam" is used more commonly in news media. Félix An (talk) 03:42, 23 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 15:44, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood → Assassin's Creed Brotherhood – Per Ubisoft and official sources, and in consistency with the rest of the titles, as per WP:TITLECON; no reliable source states that these four are to be an exception. QuestFour (talk) 15:01, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Toronto slang → Multicultural Toronto English – Per talk page discussion "Rename". See various sources there. Derek Denis, the linguist spearheading research on this dialect mostly in the 2020s, and his team have settled on this name; see here. Wolfdog (talk) 13:05, 21 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. BegbertBiggs (talk) 14:23, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Dhar (surname) → Dhar (Kashmiri surname) – Dhar is a surname found both in certain Kashmiri communities and Bengali Kayasthas. I recently created an article on Dhar (Bengali surname) and thus I suggest this article be moved to Dhar (Kashmiri surname) while this page (Dhar (surname)) be converted into a disambiguation page linking to both. PadFoot2008 (talk) 13:14, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Alex Phillips (Green politician) → Alex Phillips (politician) – "Green" in disambiguation is unnecessary, citing WP:DAB, because "Alexandra Phillips (Brexit Party politician)" was moved to "Alex Phillips (TV presenter)" in May 2022. PiaLily (talk) 10:09, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bottle of Wine → Bottle of Wine (song) – Not primary over wine bottle. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:53, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bombing of Dresden in World War II → Bombing of Dresden – Unnecessary disambiguation; proposed move target already redirects here. As TheForgottenKing earlier noted, comparable articles like Bombing of Tokyo and Attack on Pearl Harbor lack the qualifier. rblv (talk) 03:27, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Chandrayaan programme → Indian Lunar Exploration Programme – This article also includes the LUPEX mission is seperate form the Chandrayaan programme. SKAG123 (talk) 22:48, 22 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. – 64andtim (talk) 03:15, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – AJet (Turkish airline) → AJet – I believe that with the rebranding, the existing airline operating as "AJet" is the clear primary topic. Another option is linking AJet to AJet (disambiguation) but I think that making the currently operating AJet primary topic is logical. Avgeekamfot (talk) 15:36, 24 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. – 64andtim (talk) 03:05, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ottawa Road 174 → Ottawa City Road 174 – This is also posted on Template talk:Jcon#Ottawa "Regional" Roads. I noticed that Template:Jcon is linking Ottawa Roads to 'Ottawa City Road %' (i.e. Ottawa City Road 174) (Template link: Road 174), while the Ottawa numbered road articles are titled 'Ottawa Road %' (i.e. Ottawa Road 174). Is the best course of action for a fix to modify the template to the article link, or rename (move) the article to reflect the format? At this point I think the only article that would really be affected would be Ottawa Road 174. I beleive other numbered roads in cities use "City Road" as the naming convention. MuzikMachine (talk) 00:52, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
November 29, 2023
- (Discuss) – 2023 heat waves → 2023 droughts and heat waves – There is a significant overlap between heat waves and droughts. Similar factors contribute to the lack of rain, which is usually a mitigating effect in abnormal conditions. Heat waves are becoming so commonplace that their effects might almost seem like an afterthought. I recently published 2020 droughts and heat waves, to create part of a series of heat waves, and I felt that it would be inappropriate to publish it only as 2020 heat waves. Just a thought. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:23, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ryan Day → Ryan Day (disambiguation) – Ryan Day the football coach is clearly the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC as evidenced by
page viewspage views (with the coach averaging 9x more views than the other Ryan Days and the disambiguation page combined) and Google searches "Ryan Day" football 1.6 million, "Ryan Day" snooker 156,000, "Ryan Day" "attack attack" 2300 (the name of Ryan Day the musician's band). Frank Anchor 18:12, 21 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 21:50, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – GIGA Connect → Giga (United Nations) – Per the website at https://giga.global/, the UN itself does not consistently use all-caps "GIGA", and the Giga initiative includes Giga Map, Giga Finance and Giga Connect. Some of the content of the article is already outside of the scope of Giga Connect, as in the places that refer to schools being "mapped" rather than "connected". — BarrelProof (talk) 19:49, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – ALA Best Fiction for Young Adults → Best Fiction for Young Adults – As far as I know, the title of a published work is ordinarily used directly as the title of a Wikipedia article about the published work, without prefixing it with the name of the author or publisher. The suggested target title already redirects here (and always has since the day the article was created more than a decade ago), so adding "ALA" does not seem necessary for disambiguation purposes. — BarrelProof (talk) 17:32, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Herbert Hoover High School (Glendale) → Herbert Hoover High School (Glendale, California) – The city article title is Glendale, California (using the AP style guide), and so it should be disambiguated the same way. WhisperToMe (talk) 20:42, 20 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 16:38, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Royal standards of Canada → Flags of the Canadian royal family – These flags are commonly referred to as "flags" rather than "standards", for example by the Canadian Heraldic Authority (source 2), Canadian Government, and on the rare occasion they're mentioned in the press. They are some examples of "standard" being used, but it seems less common. The proposed title is based on the name used by the Canadian Government, "Canadian flags of the Royal Family", but rearranged to avoid any ambiguity about which royal family is being referred to. A.D.Hope (talk) 15:21, 21 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 16:33, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Russell Norman (restaurateur) → Russell Norman – Russell Norman (restaurateur) (Russell with two l's), who recently died, is newly created. Russel Norman (Russel with one l) was the long-standing page. At worst, no disambiguator should be needed per the policy WP:SMALLDETAILS. But this isn't just the same term with different styling, these are actually spelled differently. Moreover, the pageviews show that single-l Russel Norman only got 20 views per day before double-l Russell Norman died (and his page created); hardly enough to justify the disambiguator (restaurateur) when the people already have differently spelled names. The disambiguation page is probably not needed. Hatnotes are sufficient, and there's otherwise only the swapped name Norman Russell on the dab (debatable if its a plausible error and a useful entry); however deletion can only be discussed at WP:AFD, not RMs. Move it to (disambiguation) for now. —Bagumba (talk) 15:39, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Fallout Wiki → Nukapedia – The Nukapedia wiki brands itself primarily as Nukapedia, so I feel like this page name would be more accurate C0NN1E Beep (talk) 21:38, 24 November 2023 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Steel1943 (talk) 15:00, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ram Rebel TRX → Ram 1500 TRX – Reopening this name change discussion. Strides have been made in making this an article about both the prototype and the production version of this truck. The various variants of the Ram 1500 do have their own pages. Likewise, Ford’s high performance trim also has its own page. RickyCourtney (talk) 05:03, 22 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 13:45, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Pilli Bebek → Pilli Bebek (band) – A 2003 Turkish television series broadcast on ATV with the same name exists aswell. https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilli_Bebek (Pilli Bebek, disambiguation page on the Turkish Wikipedia) Articles where Pilli Bebek (TV series) is mentioned on the English Wikipedia: Mehmet Günsür, Begüm Birgören, Alican Yücesoy Arsabent (talk) 13:15, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Agronā → *Agronā – Per consensus about reconstructed names, as established at Talk:*Walhaz#Requested_move_1_August_2023. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 11:02, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Johnny & Associates → Smile-Up! – The company was renamed to Smile-Up! on October 17, 2023 in the wake of the sexual harassment scandal revolving around the former founder Johnny Kitagawa who passed away in 2019. The company even received a new logo. The company will be abolished once every victim of the harassment has received compensation. Goroth (talk) 08:40, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – GIGA Television → GIGA – GIGA Television is a former television station, already known as GIGA back then. Today's online magazine is called GIGA or GIGA.de. 2A02:8070:B82:45C0:DD54:2822:DE5C:89BD (talk) 08:15, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Origins of rock and roll → History of rock and roll – It is more common to have history of than origins of articles. While we have Category:Origins of music genres it has just three entries, all of which likely need to same rename. Conceptually this would allow this article to expand beyond early history, and anyway, it is not clear who and why defines where the origins end. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:10, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Old Man Range / Kopuwai → Old Man Range – Per WP:COMMONNAME, WP:CONCISE, and MOS:SLASH. Mount Aspiring is the clear common name for this location; a Google News search shows roughly 40 articles using Old Man Range, compared to just one for any form of the dual name. Google Scholar shows a similar result, with roughly 800 results for Old Man Range, compared to roughly 20 for any form of the dual name. Note that the third option, Kopuwai, receives minimal use as a name for this location and isn't an alternative common name candidate; there are 62 results for it on Google Scholar, but a review suggests that none are relevant, typically referring either to a mythological creature or to a process for fermenting maize. BilledMammal (talk) 06:10, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mount Aspiring / Tititea → Mount Aspiring – Per WP:COMMONNAME, WP:CONCISE, and MOS:SLASH. Mount Aspiring is clearly the common name for this location; in the past year alone there have been around 40 news articles using Mount Aspiring, compared to just 5 for any form of the dual name. Google Scholar shows a similar result, with 25 results for Mount Aspiring from the past year, compared to one for any form of the dual name. Note that the third option, Tititea, receives no use on either Google News or Google Scholar. BilledMammal (talk) 05:55, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2023 Freetown attacks → 2023 Sierra Leonean coup attempt – Procedural nom per above. Queen of Hearts ❤️ (no relation) 02:58, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
November 28, 2023
- (Discuss) – Atesh (movement) → Atesh – or it should be deleted. Per WP:TITLEDAB, disambiguation is only necessary when there is otherwise an actual conflict in article titles. No such conflict in titles exists. Per WP:CONCISE, concision is preferred over unnecessary precision. Atesh is not the same as Atash. Parham wiki (talk) 22:25, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Stéphane Richer (ice hockey forward) → Stéphane Richer – Clear primary topic; a 2x Stanley Cup champion with 1000+ games in the NHL, vs. a player who spent most of his career in the AHL and DEL. Disambiguation page not necessary, per WP:ONEOTHER. 162 etc. (talk) 21:15, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jesus Lives → Jezus Leeft – Per the, admittedly, old discussion above. Furthermore, almost all sources in this article, and those that I can see when searching for the party, and the party's own website, www
.jezusleeft .nl refer to itself as "Jezus Leeft", or w/ some various combination. Jezus Leeft is the one I've seen most regularly - so I listed it here - if there's another more used alternative, I'd support it being renamed to that. The current title can be transformed into a redirect if there isn't any other notable thing by this name. It doesn't seem logical to keep this page as the title esp. when it's not being referred to by this name. Would appreciate feedback, Moshe Moshe1022 (talk) 20:08, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – National State Federation → National State Employees Federation – A more accurate translation of the name. Daydreamers (talk) 23:51, 12 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:08, 20 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 18:54, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
Elapsed listings
- (Discuss) – Alexandrovsky Uyezd (disambiguation) → Alexandrovsky Uyezd – I don't think the one in Arkhangelsk Governorate is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC - it's just the longest, and the other ones could totally be expanded using the same sources. Commas are also preferred over parentheses when disambiguating administrative divisions, and the different uyezds should use consistent spelling of the word. HappyWith (talk) 17:39, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lord Cameron → Lord Cameron (disambiguation) – Redirect Lord Cameron to David Cameron per WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT and GOV.UK. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 17:19, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Blood-Horse magazine List of the Top 100 U.S. Racehorses of the 20th Century → Top 100 Racehorses of the 20th Century – or Blood-Horse Top 100 Racehorses of the 20th Century or The Blood-Horse Top 100 Racehorses of the 20th Century or Thoroughbred Champions: Top 100 Racehorses of the 20th Century. Per prior comments on the article Talk page in 2011 and 2019, the name of this "Top 100" doesn't include "U.S." We should also remove any other words that aren't really part of the name of the list. The list was first published in the magazine (see here: "The Top 100 list first appeared as a special issue of The Blood-Horse magazine, in February of 1999" and this article that says the poll result was published as a list and even republished by others – and that even included Wikipedia for a while) but I have not found a clear name for the list itself. An expanded publication was published as a book named Thoroughbred Champions: Top 100 Racehorses of the 20th Century (e.g. ISBN 9781581500240 or ISBN 1-58150-024-6). The full name of the magazine appears to be The Blood-Horse (or to have been that historically, per the quote just above, although it is published by Blood-Horse LLC, without "The", and recent cover art seems to omit "The" and the hyphen as shown here, although those are still included in some text mentions such as at that link where it says "to renew your subscription to The Blood-Horse, without interruption, ...", although on the same page it says "ONE YEAR SUBSCRIPTION // TO BLOODHORSE MAGAZINE // TABLET AND ONLINE EDITION", without "The", without hyphen). — BarrelProof (talk) 02:06, 21 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 17:04, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Blue balls → Epididymal hypertension – Hello. I've recently restructured and added information on how the phenomenon manifests in women. As such I think that it is appropriate to rename the article to the official name, "Epididymal hypertension", as it is gender-neutral. Normally I don't really mind "gender neutrality", but since epididymal hypertension occurs for both women and men it seems more logical to use the gender-neutral name for it. Sprucecopse (talk) 16:58, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Second Matabele War → First Chimurenga – The discussion of renaming this page has not been touched in 15 years, but since the Second Chimurenga/Rhodesian Bush War page is having a similar discussion, I believe now is the time to revisit it. Per WP:COMMONNAME, here is a Google Ngram for a few common names for the conflict. While "Second Matabele War" is certainly the oldest common name for the war, it has clearly not been the common term in over 40 years. I suggest using the term Chimurenga as it appears to be the most common, and I suggest First Chimurenga as the article title as it is both common and unambiguous. Chimurenga is also more accurate, referring to the conflicts fought by both the "Matabele" (Northern Ndebele people) in the north and "Mashona" (Shona people) in the south. While the article includes a section on both conflicts, the article title only refers to the former. Sophie (talk) 21:00, 8 October 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:38, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
Backlog
- (Discuss) – Christian I of Denmark → Christian I – These monarchs appear to be the primary topics for the proposed names. WP:NCROY states the following:
Only use a territorial designation (e.g. country) when disambiguation is needed.
However, in this case there is no need for disambiguation. Many of the listed monarchs are, in fact, the only monarch with the specific name and numeral. Векочел (talk) 20:43, 26 November 2023 (UTC)- Christian II of Denmark → Christian II
- Christian III of Denmark → Christian III
- Christian IV of Denmark → Christian IV
- Christian V of Denmark → Christian V
- Christian VI of Denmark → Christian VI
- Christian VII of Denmark → Christian VII
- Christian VIII of Denmark → Christian VIII
- Christian IX of Denmark → Christian IX
- Christian X of Denmark → Christian X
- Frederick VI of Denmark → Frederick VI
- Frederick VI → Frederick VI (disambiguation)
- Frederick VII of Denmark → Frederick VII
- Frederick VII → Frederick VII (disambiguation)
- Frederick VIII of Denmark → Frederick VIII
- Frederick VIII → Frederick VIII (disambiguation)
- Frederick IX of Denmark → Frederick IX
- Frederick IX → Frederick IX (disambiguation)
- (Discuss) – Saiō → Ise Saiō – We previously had a requested move to Saigū but @Invokingvajras: explained well how in fact we had been misunderstanding what a Saiō was. I have since changed almost all links to Saiō to Ise Saiō in preparation for this, so the disambiguation page will have very few links https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Sai%C5%8D Saigū now redirects to Saikū. There is a bit of Saikū vs Saigū debate brought up by @Ka-ru:, so we might want to move Saikū Palace to Saigū Palace, but I see this as a separate issue and do not know the solution. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 18:50, 13 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans (talk) 19:11, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
Possibly incomplete requests
- Talk:Vi – Vi is requested for move to Vi (text editor), which has non-redirecting content and is not requested for move
- Talk:Stéphane Richer (ice hockey forward) – Stéphane Richer (ice hockey forward) is requested for move to Stéphane Richer, which has non-redirecting content and is not requested for move
- Talk:Saldus Municipality (2021–present) – Saldus Municipality (2021–present) is requested for move to Saldus Municipality, which has non-redirecting content and is not requested for move
- Talk:Girivalam (religious practice) – Girivalam (religious practice) is requested for move to Girivalam, which has non-redirecting content and is not requested for move