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{{Initiated|16:21, 7 November 2022 (UTC)}} – Needs uninvolved closure. There appears to be a consensus for ALT5 (i.e. a wish to change the above WP guideline in a certain way), and if the closer confirms that it is a strong enough consensus, then that guideline will need to be changed. See the above discussion for precise details of ALT5. [[User:Storye book|Storye book]] ([[User talk:Storye book|talk]]) 10:23, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
{{Initiated|16:21, 7 November 2022 (UTC)}} – Needs uninvolved closure, by someone prepared to read the whole Rfc. There appears to be a consensus for ALT5 (i.e. a wish to change the above WP guideline in a certain way), and if the closer confirms that it is a strong enough consensus, then that guideline will need to be changed. See the above discussion for precise details of ALT5. [[User:Storye book|Storye book]] ([[User talk:Storye book|talk]]) 10:23, 24 November 2022 (UTC)


:For anyone contemplating closing: the initial discussions are extremely lengthy and include two RfC sections. The final discussion and !votes starts at [[Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Runoff!|Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Runoff!]], so this close is not as daunting as it looks. [[User:Valereee|Valereee]] ([[User talk:Valereee|talk]]) 14:00, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
:For anyone contemplating closing: the initial discussions are extremely lengthy and include two RfC sections. The final discussion and !votes starts at [[Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Runoff!|Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Runoff!]], so this close is not as daunting as it looks. [[User:Valereee|Valereee]] ([[User talk:Valereee|talk]]) 14:00, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

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    Talk:2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine#RfC about inclusion of "Peace efforts" section

    (Initiated 616 days ago on 9 September 2022). The RfC was called following a breakdown in a discussion about peace efforts where a majority of editors were in favour of inclusion Talk:2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine/Archive 9#Peace efforts. Seeing this, some uninvolved editors advised against calling the RfC in a discussion on the Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment talk page. But it was created anyway and now needs a close so that we can cover the new developments. IntrepidContributor (talk) 00:39, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Classical_music#Lists of Repertoire/Compositions on Wikipedia

    (Initiated 616 days ago on 9 September 2022) Been dead for a couple of weeks, but I would like someone to close it that isn't me. It may be a somewhat tricky one that isn't simply closed as "yes or no", so someone well-versed in such disputes would be helpful when writing the comment. Why? I Ask (talk) 22:51, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Wikidata lists

    (Initiated 606 days ago on 19 September 2022) Alsee (talk) 10:38, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk: List of dignitaries at the state funeral of Elizabeth II#RFC: Should New Zealand have its own section?

    (Initiated 602 days ago on 23 September 2022), though the RFC tag doesn't expire for another week. I just reverted a premature closure by an editor, who suddenly returned to Wikipedia (I hope it's not a sock) after a seven year absence. I should note, the layout of the article (concerning lists of countries) has changed since the opening of this RFC & therefore the RFC's question might now be rendered moot. GoodDay (talk) 03:27, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography#RfC: 'Titles and Styles' sections

    (Initiated 602 days ago on 23 September 2022), the RFC tag has expired. GoodDay (talk) 22:02, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk:People's Mojahedin Organization of Iran#RFC, 24 September 2022

    (Initiated 601 days ago on 24 September 2022) Needs a close. No active votes since over a month ago and no clear objection given about why that sentence shouldn't be removed from the article. If a separate RFC is needed to determine possible context or replacement, then that would be a possible follow-up step, but this RFC hasn't produced any substantial objections for keeping this sentence. Fad Ariff (talk) 13:06, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Template talk:Quantities of bits#RFC: Column name/position/content for binary computing units

    (Initiated 585 days ago on 10 October 2022) This was actually removed by bot some time ago, and discussion has mostly died down. Would like an independent closure so that the consensus, if any, is not quickly challenged. Thank you! —Locke Coletc 00:03, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Years#RFC: Should a Collage of Images be added to all YEAR IN... pages?

    (Initiated 582 days ago on 12 October 2022) The RFC tag has expired. GoodDay (talk) 22:12, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    NOTE - I do have concerns about what appears to be a breach of canvassing, by one of the participants at the RFC. GoodDay (talk) 02:40, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't know how they compiled these lists of people to ping, but it seems over half of the editors pinged by 4me689 voted contrary to that editor's position. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 12:40, 26 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk:War crimes in the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine#RfC on killings of suspected collaborators

    (Initiated 576 days ago on 18 October 2022) There haven't been new !votes since 26 October. The discussion has been quite short and a relatively clear consensus has emerged, but some editors still disagree, so a speedy closure by an administrator would be appreciated. Gitz (talk) (contribs) 12:17, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk:Irvington, New York#RfC: Description of Irvington in lede sentence

    (Initiated 576 days ago on 19 October 2022) The bot has removed the RfC-template, there's been no discussion there for about a week, and it currently stands at 3 yes !votes (including the proposer) against 6 no !votes, so I think it can be safely closed now... - Tom | Thomas.W talk 19:35, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

     Done~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 19:05, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#RfC: Showing a gadget menu to logged-out users

    (Initiated 569 days ago on 26 October 2022) – Expired RFC. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 07:28, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk:Camilla, Queen Consort#RfC on description in lede

    (Initiated 567 days ago on 27 October 2022) RfC has expired. BilledMammal (talk) 04:54, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk:List of The Great British Bake Off finalists (series 1–7)#Ruby Tandoh

    (Initiated 565 days ago on 30 October 2022) Needs uninvolved closure. George Ho (talk) 07:36, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Request for comment: The need to update Wikipedia:DYK#gen3

    (Initiated 557 days ago on 7 November 2022) – Needs uninvolved closure, by someone prepared to read the whole Rfc. There appears to be a consensus for ALT5 (i.e. a wish to change the above WP guideline in a certain way), and if the closer confirms that it is a strong enough consensus, then that guideline will need to be changed. See the above discussion for precise details of ALT5. Storye book (talk) 10:23, 24 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    For anyone contemplating closing: the initial discussions are extremely lengthy and include two RfC sections. The final discussion and !votes starts at Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Runoff!, so this close is not as daunting as it looks. Valereee (talk) 14:00, 24 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk:Mary, Queen of Scots#RFC on Regnal Number in Infobox

    (Initiated 551 days ago on 13 November 2022) Needs uninvolved closure. 2A00:23C6:B808:7701:3D1F:7DFD:C2E2:FBAA (talk) 20:44, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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    Deletion discussions

    XFD backlog
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    TfD 0 0 0 0 0
    MfD 0 0 1 2 3
    FfD 0 0 0 0 0
    RfD 0 0 17 41 58
    AfD 0 0 0 0 0

    Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2022 October 19#1994–95 season articles

    (Initiated 576 days ago on 19 October 2022) This DRV is almost 3 weeks past the usual closing deadline. Stifle (talk) 12:46, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

     Done by Barkeep49. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 19:57, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 27#Redirects with disambiguators missing ")"

    (Initiated 568 days ago on 27 October 2022) Perhaps forgotten, or perhaps no one feels comfortable closing a multi-redirect RFD. Consensus is clear. –Novem Linguae (talk) 11:14, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2022 October 31#Bobby Witt (disambiguation)

    (Initiated 564 days ago on 31 October 2022) This DRV has ran for a few more days beyond the standard duration. --NotReallySoroka (talk) 03:46, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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    Other types of closing requests

    Talk:Breathwork#Merge

    (Initiated 1185 days ago on 17 February 2021) Could any uninvolved editor examine the consensus for a merge of conscious breathing into Breathwork, involving a discussion where I have been a participant. The other part of the proposal (related to Rebirthing (breathwork)) seems to have been satisfactorily resolved. Klbrain (talk) 19:54, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk:Banu Hilal#Proposed merge of Hilalian invasion of Ifriqiya into Banu Hilal

    (Initiated 967 days ago on 23 September 2021) Could any uninvolved editor examine the consensus for a merge of Hilalian invasion of Ifriqiya into Banu Hilal, involving a discussion where I have been a participant. Klbrain (talk) 11:14, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk:List of F5 and EF5 tornadoes/Discussion#December 10 2021 TN/KY

    (Initiated 663 days ago on 24 July 2022) – Please review for inclusion on List of F5 and EF5 tornadoes#Possible F5/EF5/T10+ tornadoes officially rated F4/EF4/T9 or lower. Elijahandskip (talk) 16:20, 13 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 194#Mass creation of pages on fish species

    (Initiated 626 days ago on 30 August 2022) - Is there a consensus for the creation of these articles? BilledMammal (talk) 02:06, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Formerly untitled/upcoming media

    (Initiated 619 days ago on 5 September 2022) It's been more than 30 days since this new speedy deletion criterion was proposed. Requesting a formal close as this would affect a large number of redirects, present and future. InfiniteNexus (talk) 15:20, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk:1948 Palestinian expulsion and flight#Requested move 8 September 2022

    (Initiated 616 days ago on 8 September 2022) – this move request was previously closed, sent to the Move Review Board, and has been reopened to seek an uninvolved editor's closure. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'r there 15:16, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2022 October#Categories for European professors (many individual categories, no main link)

    (Initiated 571 days ago on 23 October 2022) – ready for closure. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'r there 20:36, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums#Adding_dates_to_album_listings_in_a_template

    (Initiated 563 days ago on 1 November 2022) Please review this discussion. --Jax 0677 (talk) 23:06, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums#Progarchy

    (Initiated 554 days ago on 10 November 2022) Please review this discussion. --Jax 0677 (talk) 00:56, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk:Mario Kart 8 Deluxe#Proposed merge of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – Booster Course Pass and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe into Mario Kart 8

    (Initiated 549 days ago on 15 November 2022) – There's been a fair amount of arguments on how to close this from participants. Sergecross73 msg me 18:04, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk:Kryvyi Rih#Krivoy Rog

    (Initiated 549 days ago on 15 November 2022) Please review this discussion. The dispute seemed pretty tense and long. I would like to see what the closer would have to say about this. Thanks, Wikiexplorationandhelping (talk) 16:08, 26 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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