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Avengers (comics) → Avengers – It is the primary topic and has the most long term significance. From the page views below you can see that it is the primary topic for "Avengers".
Page Views

https://archive.today/ApHd4, includes all the links from the Avengers (disambiguation) page. A lot of these such as GAU-8 Avenger, Grumman TBF Avenger and Dodge Avenger don’t really count because of WP:PARTIAL.
https://archive.today/bEMyG, excludes most of the WP:PARTIAL matches apart from pages titled "The Avengers" such as The Avengers (TV series), "The Avenger" such as The Avenger (album) and "Avenger" such as Avenger (film).
https://archive.today/bl3uk, only includes pages titled "Avengers" such as Avengers (Marvel Cinematic Universe), Avengers (band) and Avengers (album).

Note: Although The Avengers (2012 film) gets more views (possibly due to WP:RECENTISM), it doesn’t have as much long term significance as Avengers (comics). Also the film and other things listed here are based on the comics characters themselves. Sahaib3005 (talk) 13:17, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 18:11, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose While Avengers (comics) has long term significance, its actually Avengers (film series) that received most views as it is the term only people know about Avengers. In other words, it can be primary topic for all other articles, but not for film series at same name. 180.254.171.124 (talk) 01:38, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@180.254.171.124:, like I mentioned above, the film series is based on the characters from the comics. If we were going completely by pageviews https://archive.today/LALf8 then Aquaman (film) would be titled Aquaman, Wonder Woman (2017 film) would be titled Wonder Woman, etc. You should also read the essay WP:PPT. Sahaib3005 (talk) 09:40, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support: per nom Titan Boulder (talk) 06:08, 17 January 2022 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE – Extraordinary Writ (talk) 19:02, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support: How many people even remember that British TV show? Kurzon (talk) 09:37, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Pretty much everyone who was alive at the time and who was born in the next couple of decades! The world didn't start in 2000 and it may surprise you to know that many of us are still alive and kicking (and editing and reading Wikipedia) today! -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:09, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose clearly WP:NOPRIMARY by any measure : unusual to see a nom which states that the article fails to garner WP:PT page views, and as for criteria 2, how can there be a PT given Avengers (Marvel Cinematic Universe)? In ictu oculi (talk) 16:23, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Film/Marvel Cinematic Universe task force has been notified of this discussion. InfiniteNexus (talk) 19:04, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. I find it pretty funny using WP:RECENTISM against other entries when that is literally the only reason why the comic article is as high as it is. Pre-MCU almost no one (outside the small fan base) knew or cared about this group. Per the page views, basically any MCU entry - film or group has more page views. There is absolutely no reason to place the comic article as the primary. Gonnym (talk) 19:16, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking we could turn it into a general article about the Avengers across all media. Kurzon (talk) 21:37, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. WP:RECENTISM and the current disambig page covers an extensive variety of different topics (WP:NOPRIMARY). We shouldn't be favouring one over the others. -- JascaDucato (talk | contributions) 10:17, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. No primary topic, especially given Avengers (film series) and the classic and iconic The Avengers (TV series). -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:06, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Given that, at the very least, the TV series shares primariness with the comics._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 23:59, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I too oppose this being the primary topic. But I feel that this is an overview article like Kurzon pointed that he thought it to be. The MCU article is just an extension of this exact topic. I think this article should reflect that with it’s name title other than (comics). So I still feel that this page needs a name change if we could think of names for character teams that start out in comics. Jhenderson⁷⁷⁷ 00:50, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Agree with above. Rhino131 (talk) 04:50, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]