Wikipedia:Closure requests

The Requests for closure noticeboard is for posting requests to have an uninvolved editor assess, summarize, and formally close a discussion on Wikipedia. Formal closure by an uninvolved editor or administrator should be requested where consensus remains unclear, where the issue is a contentious one, or where there are wiki-wide implications, such as when the discussion is about creating, abolishing or changing a policy or guideline.

Many discussions do not need formal closure and do not need to be listed here.

Many discussions result in a reasonably clear consensus, so if the consensus is clear, any editor—even one involved in the discussion—may close the discussion. The default length of a formal request for comment is 30 days (opened on or before 21 May 2024); if consensus becomes clear before that and discussion has slowed, then it may be closed early. However, editors usually wait at least a week after a discussion opens, unless the outcome is very obvious, so that there is enough time for a full discussion.

On average, it takes two or three weeks after the discussion ended to get a formal closure from an uninvolved editor. When the consensus is reasonably clear, participants may be best served by not requesting and then waiting weeks for a formal closure.

If consensus is unclear, then post a neutral request here for assistance.

Please ensure that your request for closure is brief and neutrally worded, and also ensure that a link to the discussion itself is included as well. Be prepared to wait for someone to act on your request and do not use this board to continue the discussion in question.

If you disagree with a particular closure, do not dispute it here. Please discuss matters on the closer's talk page instead, and, if necessary, request a closure review at the administrators' noticeboard. Include links to the closure being challenged and the discussion on the closer's talk page, and also include a policy-based rationale supporting your request for the closure to be overturned.

See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Closure review archive for previous closure reviews.

Any uninvolved editor may close most discussions, so long as they are prepared to discuss and justify their closing rationale.

Because requests for closure made here are often those that are the most contentious, closing these discussions can be a significant responsibility. Closers should be familiar with all policies and guidelines that could apply to the given discussion. All closers should be prepared to fully discuss the closure rationale with any editors who have questions about the closure or the underlying policies, and to provide advice about where to discuss any remaining concerns that those editors may have.

A request for comment discussed how to appeal closures and whether an administrator can summarily overturn a non-administrator's closure. The consensus was that closures should not be reverted solely because the closer was not an administrator. However, special considerations apply for articles for deletion and move discussions—see Wikipedia:Deletion process#Non-administrators closing discussions and Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for details.

To reduce editing conflicts and an undesirable duplication of effort when closing a discussion listed on this page, please append {{Closing}} or {{Doing}} to the discussion's entry here. When finished, replace it with {{Close}} or {{Done}} and an optional note which allows archiving of the completed request.

Requests for closure

See also: Wikipedia:Requested moves § Elapsed listings, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Old, Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion, Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Awaiting closure, Wikipedia:Templates for discussion § Old discussions, and Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion § Old business

Administrative discussions

Request close on BLP Incident for Philip Cross

(Initiated 1621 days ago on 12 January 2020) Can an uninvolved editor please close the discussion on Philip Cross' BLP editing here: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1028#User:Philip Cross BLP issue

GPRamirez5 (talk) 18:54, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Request for speedy closure of out-of-process move

(Initiated 1602 days ago on 30 January 2020) Please see Wikipedia talk:Requested moves#Speedy close needed, and previous requests for speedy closure by multiple editors at Talk:Syrian civil war#Requested move 30 January 2020. Immediately re-opening an RM when one simply doesn't like the outcome is against process. (Actual process: ask the closer to instead re-list; take the matter to WP:MRV; and wait several months and re-RM again iff there are new facts and arguments to present; in that order). I'm listing this here because WT:RM doesn't appear to be highly watchlisted; the bogus "anti-RM" could easily run its entire week without being closed. I'm starting to think that a section for speedy closure requests needs to be added to WP:RM/TR, since that actually is closely watched and rapidly acted upon by admins and pagemovers.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  18:48, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

RfCs

Talk:List of nicknames of presidents of the United States#RFC: Should recent presidents be included?

(Initiated 1702 days ago on 23 October 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:List of nicknames of presidents of the United States#RFC: Should recent presidents be included?? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 10:34, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#RfC: Merge F9 into G12 redux

(Initiated 1691 days ago on 3 November 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#RfC: Merge F9 into G12 redux? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 09:29, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

 Note: archived without closure to Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion/Archive 75#RfC: Merge F9 into G12 redux --DannyS712 (talk) 18:57, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Talk:List of countries and dependencies by population#RFC: Numbering

(Initiated 1682 days ago on 11 November 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:List of countries and dependencies by population#RFC: Numbering? Thank you! --T*U (talk) 16:55, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

MediaWiki talk:Titleblacklist#Request to prevent "Wikidata" titles from being created

(Initiated 1679 days ago on 14 November 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at MediaWiki talk:Titleblacklist#Request to prevent "Wikidata" titles from being created? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 09:29, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Mottainai#RFC on article versions

(Initiated 1679 days ago on 14 November 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Mottainai#RFC on article versions? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 09:29, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

{{not done}} as an RfC participant contested this closure request on my talk page. I do not want to argue about whether this closure request should have been made. I am marking this as closure request withdrawn, without prejudice against another editor filing another closure request. Courtesy pinging Francis Schonken (talk · contribs), who thanked me for listing this closure request at ANRFC. Cunard (talk) 09:10, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

(Initiated 1679 days ago on 14 November 2019) Relisted, interpretation of the outcome appears to be still in dispute, so formal closure would be the best way forward imho. --Francis Schonken (talk) 09:20, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, Francis Schonken (talk · contribs). I have commented out the not done template so that the bot does not archive this closure request. Cunard (talk) 09:23, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

I'll second the request. I took a break and came back to it, and if anything the matter is mired in more interpersonal drama + sourcing questions now than it was before.  It will take an uninvolved party to try to get through to an actual consensus (and it may simply be that consensus did not emerge and that another, more structured discussion is needed as a followup.  Or maybe it's just giving me too much of a headache, and someone else will be able to sense a clear consensus buried in it.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢   11:21, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Bruce Pascoe#RfC

(Initiated 1659 days ago on 5 December 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Bruce Pascoe#RfC? There is a request for closure at Talk:Bruce Pascoe#Request for closure. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 10:34, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Trump–Ukraine scandal/Archive 5#RFC: Ukrainian President's Statement on the Trump-Ukraine Scandal in the Lede

(Initiated 1658 days ago on 5 December 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Trump–Ukraine scandal/Archive 5#RFC: Ukrainian President's Statement on the Trump-Ukraine Scandal in the Lede? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 10:34, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Donji Kraji#Version of Article

(Initiated 1658 days ago on 5 December 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the situation at Talk:Donji_Kraji#Version of Article? Thanks, Ceha --Čeha (razgovor) 12:07, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Donji Kraji#Request for Comments

(Initiated 1658 days ago on 6 December 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Donji Kraji#Request for Comments? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 10:34, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea#RfC: Including concerts/tours in articles about Korean musicians

(Initiated 1655 days ago on 9 December 2019) Could an uninvolved and experienced editor please assess the consensus and close the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea#RfC: Including concerts/tours in articles about Korean musicians? Thank you.  Hyuny Bunny (talk) 22:45, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Concealed carry in the United States#RfC: Summarize research in the lead

(Initiated 1654 days ago on 10 December 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Concealed carry in the United States#RfC: Summarize research in the lead? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 10:34, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Tesla Cybertruck#Which image should we use?

(Initiated 1653 days ago on 11 December 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Tesla Cybertruck#Which image should we use?? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 10:34, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#RfC: Grayzone

(Initiated 1651 days ago on 12 December 2019) Would an uninvolved experienced editor please assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#RfC: Grayzone? Thank you. — Newslinger talk 10:21, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Black Hebrew Israelites#RfC: Should this article include any mention of the Jersey City shooting?

(Initiated 1651 days ago on 12 December 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Black Hebrew Israelites#RfC: Should this article include any mention of the Jersey City shooting?? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 10:34, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Timeline of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections#Tangentially related content (with RfC)

(Initiated 1651 days ago on 13 December 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Timeline of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections#Tangentially related content (with RfC)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 10:34, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Talk:DC Extended Universe/Archive 5#RfC: Should the untitled Batman (2021) film be listed as part of the DCEU?

(Initiated 1649 days ago on 15 December 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:DC Extended Universe/Archive 5#RfC: Should the untitled Batman (2021) film be listed as part of the DCEU?? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 10:34, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Proposal: Procedural removal of admin rights who have not used the admin tools for a significant period of time (maybe 5 years)

(Initiated 1646 days ago on 18 December 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Proposal: Procedural removal of admin rights who have not used the admin tools for a significant period of time (maybe 5 years)? Thanks, Interstellarity (talk) 15:45, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea/Popular culture#RfC: Including how work has been received by experts and the public in articles about Korean musicians

(Initiated 1646 days ago on 18 December 2019) Could an uninvolved and experienced editor please assess the consensus and close the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea/Popular culture#RfC: Including how work has been received by experts and the public in articles about Korean musicians? Thank you.  Hyuny Bunny (talk) 03:26, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Chairperson#RFC: What's the best disambiguator for Chair?

(Initiated 1645 days ago on 19 December 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Chairperson#RFC: What's the best disambiguator for Chair?? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 10:34, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Minneapolis#RfC on Athletes pictured at work or in city of origin

(Initiated 1643 days ago on 20 December 2019) Talk:Minneapolis#RfC on Athletes pictured at work or in city of origin Would an univolved editor please close this RfC? It was resolved amicably. Thank you. -SusanLesch (talk) 14:13, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

We have three concurrent Minneapolis RfCs. It would help if an uninvolved editor can also close Talk:Minneapolis#RfC_on_Dakota_Sioux_in_Minneapolis_history and Talk:Minneapolis#RfC_on_appropriate_image_of_Prince. Thank you. -SusanLesch (talk) 15:28, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Media coverage of Bernie Sanders/Archive 3#RfC: Content by "Paste magazine"

(Initiated 1643 days ago on 21 December 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Media coverage of Bernie Sanders/Archive 3#RfC: Content by "Paste magazine"? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 10:34, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Editor Retention#Creating a WikiProject

(Initiated 1642 days ago on 22 December 2019) Could an uninvolved experienced editor close this discussion? Interstellarity (talk) 12:58, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Khalida Jarrar#Request for outside comments

(Initiated 1641 days ago on 23 December 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Khalida Jarrar#Request for outside comments? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 10:34, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#RfC: Is Paste a generally reliable source for politics-related topics?

(Initiated 1637 days ago on 26 December 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#RfC: Is Paste a generally reliable source for politics-related topics?? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 10:34, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Gas van#Request for comment

(Initiated 1637 days ago on 26 December 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Gas van#Request for comment? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 10:34, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Ilhan_Omar#RFC: Should Anti-semitism accusations be included in the lede?

(Initiated 1634 days ago on 30 December 2019) 09:22, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Editor Retention#Interacting with younger editors

(Initiated 1632 days ago on 1 January 2020) Could an uninvolved experienced editor close this discussion? Interstellarity (talk) 12:58, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Donald Trump#RfC: Should the second sentence of the last paragraph of the lead be changed?

(Initiated 1627 days ago on 5 January 2020) Would an uninvolved experienced editor please close this discussion? - MrX 🖋 18:41, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Germanic peoples#RfC: Is information and sources on peoples speaking Germanic languages and following other aspects of Germanic culture, within the scope of this article?

(Initiated 1615 days ago on 17 January 2020) Requesting an experienced editor to assess the consensus at Talk:Germanic peoples#RfC: Is information and sources on peoples speaking Germanic languages and following other aspects of Germanic culture, within the scope of this article? The issue at hand is contentious, but the outcome of the RfC appears obvious. That's why I'm requesting closure this early. Thanks. Krakkos (talk) 12:06, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Talk:2019–20 Wuhan coronavirus outbreak: RfC on map of infected cases

(Initiated 1608 days ago on 25 January 2020) Requesting an uninvolved experienced editor to assess the consensus at Talk:2019–20 Wuhan coronavirus outbreak#RfC on map of infected cases. Issue is contentious but consensus isn't much in doubt. Horse Eye Jack (talk) 15:36, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Deletion discussions

XFD backlog

V	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Total
CfD	0	6	17	138	161
TfD	0	0	1	1	2
MfD	0	0	0	0	0
FfD	0	0	0	0	0
RfD	0	0	9	27	36
AfD	0	0	0	9	9

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Bryan.Wade

(Initiated 1618 days ago on 14 January 2020) Although eligible to close tomorrow, MfD discussions have tended to languish particularly well past the usual 7 day limit in comparison to AfD and RfD. As you'll see from the consensus, there is ample agreement from all involved editors and administrators that the content dispute has been resolved amicably, other than the nominator, who favours deletion. Would an experienced editor (it doesn't have to be an administrator) assess the consensus and action the recommended actions? --Doug Mehus  T·C 21:43, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Other types of closing requests

Current interpretations of WP:NCORP fail to adequately evaluate Art Galleries

(Initiated 1889 days ago on 18 April 2019) Would an experienced admin please summarize and officially close this discussion on how notability for organizations and companies should be applied to art galleries? Thank you! Qono (talk) 16:06, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Linguistics#We probably have too many vowel articles

(Initiated 1778 days ago on 8 August 2019) Although I am an uninvolved editor, I cannot be able to assess the consensus of this discussion. Any experienced editor can do that. Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 14:35, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Varadaraja V. Raman#Content discussions

(Initiated 1748 days ago on 6 September 2019) Any uninvolved admin. Discussion about whether three specific items can be included in the article, one proposed to be newly added, and two which were removed absent discussion after long being in the article. 15:50, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Donald Trump#Veracity graphs

(Initiated 1689 days ago on 5 November 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Donald Trump#Veracity graphs? You are awesome. ―Mandruss ☎ 16:37, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Talk:2020 Formula One World Championship#Map

(Initiated 1677 days ago on 17 November 2019) Please determine the consensus (if any) at Talk:2020 Formula One World Championship#Map. Thank you,
SSSB (talk) 09:34, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

 Note: An RfC has just started to discuss whether there should be a map at all. Therefore this discussion may be void after the RfC closes.
SSSB (talk) 17:39, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Talk:AEW Bash at the Beach#Notability / Merge???

(Initiated 1675 days ago on 19 November 2019) Merge discussion with no new feedback in a month, closure from any uninvolved experienced editor would be appreciated.LM2000 (talk) 05:51, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard#White privilege

(Initiated 1663 days ago on 30 November 2019) Please review, asses and close this discussion on the NPOV noticeboard Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard#White privilege.Keith Johnston (talk) 12:56, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

 Note: Now archived at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard/Archive 80#White_privilege. comrade waddie96 ★ (talk)  11:49, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Global warming#Second discussion on titles for potential move request

(Initiated 1661 days ago on 2 December 2019) Would an experienced editor assess consensus at Talk:Global warming#Second discussion on titles for potential move request. Various topics may require assessment: A) is there consensus for/against a split/fork between 'Climate Change' and 'Global warming' B) Is there consensus to start a rename proposal for either of the two options on the table B) is there consensus to wait a period of time for more developments/research before making an official move. Femke Nijsse (talk) 10:31, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Naval Air Station Pensacola shooting#Add names of victims who died

(Initiated 1656 days ago on 8 December 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Naval Air Station Pensacola shooting#Add names of victims who died? Thank you! ―Mandruss ☎ 05:40, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:BLPN#Accuracy of claims made by climate change deniers

(Initiated 1621 days ago on 11 January 2020) Would an uninvolved editor assess the request made at Wikipedia:BLPN#Accuracy of claims made by climate change deniers, please. Peter Gulutzan (talk) 19:56, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Death of Kobe Bryant#Requested move 28 January 2020

(Initiated 1605 days ago on 28 January 2020) Could an uninvolved administrator close the controversial and contested requested move at Talk:Death of Kobe Bryant#Requested move 28 January 2020. Thanks. — MarkH₂₁^talk 20:43, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

•  Done. BD2412 T 02:05, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Talk:University of Delhi#Proposed merge with Delhi University Students' Union

(Initiated 1746 days ago on 8 September 2019) —usernamekiran (talk) 17:39, 4 February 2020 (UTC)