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WookieInHeat

WookieInHeat in heat is warned, again, but otherwise, this report can be closed. El_C 17:09, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

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Request concerning WookieInHeat

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Galobtter (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 07:29, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

User against whom enforcement is requested: WookieInHeat (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/American_politics_2#Discretionary_sanctions_(1932_cutoff) :

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

11 June Reinstating a challenged edit without consensus.

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive251#WookieInHeat: Warned for violating 1RR/consensus-required for making this exact edit repeatedly

If discretionary sanctions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:AC/DS#Awareness and alerts)

Alerted about discretionary sanctions in the area of conflict in the last twelve months, see the system log linked to above or this diff.

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

See El_C's warning. Their previous reversions on the same page can be seen here.

In response to He appears to be trying to maintain his preferred version of the article without any compromise or consensus, by simply ignoring those he disagrees with and hoping they'll go away: my life isn't arguing with people in the area of American Politics. I find it very unproductive to continue to argue in this area, and the way to resolve disputes here is to solicit more opinions so a consensus can be determined. An WP:RfC is a good way to get more opinions. Galobtter (pingó mió) 12:23, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

[1]

Discussion concerning WookieInHeat

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Statement by WookieInHeat

My last edit to the disputed paragraph was a month ago, I received a warning (I misunderstood the WP:1RR initially) and ceased the behavior. Galobtter ignored my last reply to him on the article's talk page regarding WP:NPOV in the lede, and has not participated in that discussion in several weeks. I'm not the first editor to raise this exact issue, only to be ignored. He appears to be trying to maintain his preferred version of the article without any compromise or consensus, by simply ignoring those he disagrees with and hoping they'll go away, while relying on the 1RR restriction to prevent any changes. WookieInHeat (talk) 08:46, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify, @Doug Weller: linked to a page I didn't comment on. He is talking about this reply to him, on the talk page of an article I have never edited, which obviously isn't relevant here, nor warrants his "I hope you agree that his presence isn't required" comment. WookieInHeat (talk) 01:25, 12 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@EdJohnston: the edit you linked to is regarding Vice as a WP:RS in relation to political topics as per WP:RSP, which is a separate issue from the WP:NPOV of the lede with its own discussion on the talk page. And yes I understand the complaint, I was just trying to keep my reply concise. I mentioned my edit a month ago to highlight that I'm not trying to edit disruptively. I ceased what I thought to be the offending behavior and waited patiently for a response from Galobtter, whom ignored the conversation for weeks only to instantly come running to file for AE when I made the edit again. From my perspective it seems the WP:1RR is being gamed. WookieInHeat (talk) 09:36, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Doug Weller

@Sandstein: I'm not involved in this dispute but am involved at Talk:Antifa where he's also arguing against a consensus, one that has been unchanged for over a year, so I'm only here to say that Lord Roem hasn't edited for a week. This shouldn't be ignored because he's not around and I hope you agree that his presence isn't required. Doug Weller talk 12:47, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WookieInHeat is of course correct, my link was to the dab page. Apologies. My comment ""I hope you agree that his presence isn't required" was obviously about Lord Roem, I don't understand how that could have been misconstrued. Doug Weller talk 15:25, 12 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by (username)

Result concerning WookieInHeat

This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.

@Lord Roem: This is your sanction, want to take a look at this? Sandstein 10:01, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I think this is a pretty straightforward block. Can't do it myself as on my phone which really hates Special:Block, and won't be at a PC for some hours. Black Kite (talk) 13:18, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
WookieInHeat removed a paragraph from the article, "Removing disputed paragraph as per talk page looks as though it lacks any talk page consensus. (Their words 'as per talk page' look like mere hand-waving and I don't see any actual talk page agreement that the paragraph should be removed). Per the notice posted a Talk:/r/The Donald you have to get "consensus on the talk page of this article before reinstating any edits that have been challenged (via reversion)". Another editor had reverted similar material back into the article on 8 June, so it was material that had been recently challenged. EdJohnston (talk) 03:57, 12 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Though WookieInHeat has responded above, I am not sure they understand this complaint. They state "My last edit to the disputed paragraph was a month ago.." They should be explaining why they shouldn't be blocked for the edit named above, which occurred *not* a month ago, but on 11 June, which is just yesterday. EdJohnston (talk) 04:18, 12 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It appears that WookieInHeat has reverted their last change. Does this allow the complaint to be closed? EdJohnston (talk) 01:14, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think so, but I think it would be best to close it with a formal warning to WookieInHeat not to do this again. Thryduulf (talk) 12:35, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

CharlesShirley

CharlesShirley is reminded about civility, but otherwise closing as no action. El_C 17:04, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Request concerning CharlesShirley

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: MrClog (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 08:34, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

User against whom enforcement is requested: CharlesShirley (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/American politics 2#Discretionary sanctions (1932 cutoff)

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

00:42, 11 June 2019, 14:07, 11 June 2019 & 17:08, 11 June 2019: Reinstating bold edit after being reverted instead of first discussing the matter (WP:BRD). I tried to initiate a discussion at the talk page, but the editor has only responded one time, refusing to discuss the matter any further.
14:50, 12 June 2019 After I had originally placed a 3RR warning at the editor's talk page (because an edit war was starting), this was then removed. I then placed {{OW}} on the user's talk page. The editor then removed it, calling it "vandalism" (WP:NPA). When PaleoNeonate told them they shouldn't do this, they removed their comment as "completely off point and irrelevant".
21:47, 12 June 2019 Here the editor removes a friendly message of me asking them to discuss the matter at the article's talk page (now that the page has been protected for 5 days at my request so that there'd be no need for an edit war), calling it "hogwash". This once again shows that the editor is not willing to discuss the matter, but rather that the editor wants to force their own version in through an edit war.

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

01:11, 3 February 2019 The editor was topic banned from Elizabeth Warren for one month by Awilley (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) (also post-1932 American politcs).

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Previously given a discretionary sanction for conduct in the area of conflict on 01:11, 3 February 2019 by Awilley (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA).

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

None of the supplied diffs would require a sanction if they were an isolated incident. The problem here is, though, that the diffs show a pattern of refusing to discuss the contents of Franchise Tax Board of California v. Hyatt, instead wanting to force their version of the page through, despite my attempts (like here and my message on their talk page inviting them to discuss the matter) to start a civil conversation on the talk page. Instead, the user makes Wikipedia a battleground, making uncivil comments and personal attacks, and all this whilst being previously topic banned for similar offenses in the same area (post-1932 American politics). A general post-1932 American politics, broadly construed, topic ban may be necessary, but I will leave that up to the administrators.

I just saw the comment by CharlesShirley. Please note that I wasn't made aware that the editor decided to stop working on the page, but still I find the way the editor worked the last couple of days, including personal attacks and incivility, as well as refusal to discuss the matter on the talk page, troubling, especially when considering they have already been sanctioned for similar behaviour before. --MrClog (talk) 14:18, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@El C: The diffs are already provided above, but to sum them up: here, the user accuses me of "vandalism" (personal attack) and an attempt to civil discussion is called "hogwash" (uncivil). Similar uncivil edit summaries can be found in the recent history of editor's talk page (please also see PaleoNeonate's comment below). The editor meets awareness criteria #2 (previously TBanned from Elizabeth Warren). --MrClog (talk) 17:24, 13 June 2019 (UTC); editted 17:26, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

[2]

Discussion concerning CharlesShirley

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Statement by CharlesShirley

I have simply chosen to stop working on the article Franchise Tax Board of California v. Hyatt. I have decided to take a break from this article, to de-escalate the conflict and to remove myself from the negative attacks on me from other editors. This whole arbitration/request/enforcement action is an attempt to goad me into debating with these other editors and inflame tensions more. These two editors will simply not leave me alone and who apparently will not let me withdraw from working on the FTB v Hyatt article. This whole process makes no sense to me because I have decided to take a break from the article and to simply walk away from the conflict. I would hope that whomever the admin or arbitrator of this process would respect that decision.--CharlesShirley (talk) 13:59, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have not engaged in any personal attacks. That is simply not true. Also, I have not engaged in any incivility either. Please do not repeat these claims without providing evidence to support these claims. Please stop. I understand that you did not like the good faith edits that I did to the article, but you have really need to stop now.--CharlesShirley (talk) 16:47, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by PaleoNeonate

I noticed this AE entry so may as well comment. I recently warned this editor about offensive edit summaries (which they of course reverted with a similar edit summary - Special:Diff/901538297, Special:Diff/901540049). This gave me the impression that there is an important interaction problem. However, when looking at the talk page history, I did see a few instances of communication. The attitude could be improved, Wikipedia being a collaborative system. I will not post additional diffs for these, but the edit summaries are visible in the talk page history and user contributions. —Paleo Neonate – 08:55, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

These two editors will simply not leave me alone and who apparently will not let me withdraw from working on the FTB v Hyatt article. If this includes me, I have not been involved at all at that article or in the topic. I also didn't know MrClog until I noticed these irregularities a few days ago. I have not engaged in any incivility either ... evidence to support these claims. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 - This "silliness" is part of important standard Wikipedia processes that may lead to sanctions. As I previously warned already (WP:SUMMARYNO) edit summaries also apply for civility, although blanking is fine (WP:BLANKING). As for rarely discussing instead of reverting with an offensive summary, here are various links (some essays, other policy or explanatory supplement) that emphasise the importance of communication: WP:ENGAGE, WP:DISCUSSFAIL, WP:BRD, WP:CONSENSUS, WP:CIVIL, WP:RADAR, WP:TEAMWORK ... —Paleo Neonate – 19:46, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Acknowledging that we are not able to objectively or calmly edit a particular article/area is a good start and this may temporarily mitigate the issue if the same situation does not reproduce constantly with other articles. I noticed that before the apparent recent tension, a bot was automatically archiving posts. Perhaps that editing in less stressful areas will also as a result reduce the urge to write abrasive edit summaries. —Paleo Neonate – 19:46, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by (username)

Result concerning CharlesShirley

This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.

From what's it worth, I've unprotected the article, since one of the parties has withdrawn from it. I recommend closing this without action. Note that there is neither an AP DS editnotice nor an article talk page notice. El_C 17:00, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Claims concerning personal attacks and incivility, indeed, need to be supported by evidence in the form of diffs. El_C 17:03, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hyperbole and less-than-civil impoliteness do not rise to the level of personal attacks. The user says the edits constitute vandalism, which may be unintentional, they're not saying explicitly that that the other party are themselves a vandal. Hogwash may not be that polite, but it isn't particularly egregious, either. El_C 17:38, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, though Charles Shirley would do well to modify their use of edit-summaries to a more civil level. Black Kite (talk) 17:44, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Arglebargle79

No action. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:01, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Request concerning Arglebargle79

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: JFG (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 11:43, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

User against whom enforcement is requested: Arglebargle79 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced: WP:ARBAPDS, {{American politics AE}}

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

17 June 2019, 01:20 UTC Arglebargle79 restores his/her edit of 00:24[3] despite Mélencron's revert at 00:58[4], thereby violating the "Enforced BRD" sanction prominently displayed as an edit notice.
7 June 2019, 14:21 UTC Arglebargle79 claims that a unanimous AfD outcome was a "false consensus", while s/he was the only editor disagreeing with the community. Proceeds to enact his/her suggestions despite talk page opposition, see Talk:2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries#Revision suggestions
9 March 2019, 17:11 UTC Arglebargle79 recreates an article, claiming "there was a discussion on this and a consensus was reached just the other day", whilst the actual consensus had been to merge it. This action was reverted and further discussed at Talk:2020 Democratic Party presidential candidates#Recreation of article.

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

None

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Notified on 18 January 2019 by NinjaRobotPirate

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

The above evidence shows a pattern of disregarding community consensus, which is disruptive, no matter the topic area.

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

Done.[5]

Discussion concerning Arglebargle79

Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator.
Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks. i know that my response is longer than the maximum and I apologize, but I thought it necessary and request it remain as is.Arglebargle79 (talk) 15:34, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Arglebargle79

Okay, let's start out with one of the so-called "warnings", shall we?

Notified on 18 January 2019 by NinjaRobotPirate

if you notice almost all the reversions and attempted deletions have been gratuitous, unnecessary, and have almost always been reversed. The quickest ones that come to mind are: France's only Vice President, the Impeachment of Dilma Rousseff, 2019 Japanese imperial transition and territorial presidential caucuses from the last election cycle. This doesn't show that I"m disruptive, this just shows that young wannabee "cyber cops" like to assert some power. I have no problems with someone coming and improving my work, rather quite the opposite.

Now, as to the current situation. What is going on is completely bogus. Yes, I'm a bit of a fan of creating stubs. Stubs are necessary. For example, the de la Meurthe article, which was called for deletion because the one and only Vice president of France wasn't notable, is one of these. There are lots of these and it's part of what Wikipedia is for. So it was with the 2020 Democratic candidate and Debate articles.

AS to the latter, The article was created last December along with the "candidates" page. Election articles are fluid and need revision constantly. If you take a look, the December 2015 revision of the 2016 United States presidential election article looks absolutely nothing like the current version. Same thing with the subsidiary articles. Setting up a requisite number of stubs somewhat early in order to get everything right when the time comes is, in my opinion, a good idea, we have the templates finished and we could start popping info in. Easy peasy. But did they? No. A few people (six, in fact), decided to have a "consensus" without informing me or anyone else about it. Having noticed that the two articles were suddenly gone, I complained. There was no consensus. When a few people said it might be a nice idea to revive the "candidates" (actually if you look at the talk page conversation the people who requested it didn't know there was one) because the article was becoming too unwieldy.

I left a note saying that since this was the case if there were no objections in the next three days, I'd revive the article. There were none, and so I did it, and then a couple of days later, WHAM!!!!! They were deleted again, saying that there was a "consensus" last December. I vociferously objected. Therefore the two alleged "violations" were justified and therefore not violations at all.

Now as to Mélencron's starting an edit war with me there's a difference. Mélencron generally reverts everything I do whether it's necessary or not (and it usually isn't). I reflexively revert his reversions. His reversions of my trying to note who has been invited to the debates and who haven't are the disruptive stuff. It is necessary to inform the reader the basic info on the assumption that the reader is not going to move to another page unless he or she actually WANTS to. When it's easy to add more information in an unintrusive way, like adding an "*" to a name, then we should do so. Keeping the information from readers is always bad.

IN other words: it wasn't I being disruptive, it was Mélencron... and finally, I'd like to quote this explanation of a revision of my stuff: David O. Johnson contribs‎ 170,133 bytes +1‎ Undid revision 902165738 by Arglebargle79 (talk) we don't have to go by what the DNC says" In my opinion, it's better if we do when they make the rules. Arglebargle79 (talk) 15:25, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

you will notice on the Israeli election thing I was thanked. Banning me for starting articles which need to be made (like the September Israeli election kind of misses the point. Arglebargle79 (talk) 16:54, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Mélencron

I'm not able to currently comment extensively on this and I will come back to this later, but in general I intend to echo JFG's comments about a long-term pattern of disruption, combative editing, and WP:CIR issues with the user in question which has remained unchanged over the years. Mélencron (talk) 15:37, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Quick remarks – I don't believe my conduct on U.S. politics-related articles has been problematic and I've been scrupulous to abide by 1RR on the article in question (though I can't remember any instances off the top of my head). There is no way in which my conduct was at all disruptive: I made a single revert to a major edit for which I viewed as having no existing consensus and ran contrary to previous discussions on the talk page about separating major/minor candidates; just part of the BRD. IIRC, they're correct in that they've proposed this change before (splitting the candidates list based on the debates), but there was never any consensus for such a change and the current state of the article reflects that arrived to on the talk page (candidates included in most polls and with substantial media coverage – based on candidate lists).

I also don't "reflexively revert" edits by them (though I scrupulously monitor my watchlist and many of the articles they've edited are on my watchlist), though I find that in many cases there are obvious WP:CIR issues and an unwillingness to change their editing behaviors or respond to other editors' concerns about them. These basic CIR issues remain despite them having edited for years (see here); Number 57 can attest to these as well, and there has been no distinct change in their editing behavior (and sometimes bizarre comments on article talk pages) or attitude towards overriding roughshod over existing consensus to try to get their way over time.

At the same time, I have zero interest in anything involved to the WP namespace, so I'll end it here. Mélencron (talk) 16:02, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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I find Arglebargle79's reply somewhat unfocused and a bit all over the place. It lacks diffs, and frankly, is a bit unresponsive, especially vis-a-vis the 2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries edits. El_C 17:22, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Diff 1 pertains to a sanction by Awilley (talk · contribs), who should determine if enforcement is needed. Diffs 2 and 3 look like content disputes, which AE does not resolve. Sandstein 17:28, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, diff #1 is a violation of the BRD rule. That said, my personal preference when enforcing BRD (and the older Consensus Required rule) is to see that the user has been specifically made aware of the rule, and for first-time offenders been given some opportunity to self-revert. Because the rules are a bit different than the rest of the 'pedia I prefer to avoid "gotcha" situations. On the other diffs I've had time to look at #2 and agree that ignoring consensus is not good, but wouldn't block for that alone. So maybe put me down for a warning? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Awilley (talk • contribs)
This has been open for nearly three days with no one arguing for sanctions beyond a warning: I’m closing without any action due to lack of interest in sanctioning at this time. Additionally, the immediate disruption seems to have stopped and they haven’t edited in a few days, so I’m not sure what good any sanction would do. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:01, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

63.141.56.198

Wrong venue. Try WP:AN3.

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Request concerning 63.141.56.198

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Pinchme123 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 20:36, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

User against whom enforcement is requested: 63.141.56.198 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/American_politics_2#Enforcement

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

21 June 2019 This first edit by 63.141.56.198 removed appropriate content from the page, which had previously been established via editing consensus over the past week. I challenged this edit via a reversion (21 June 2019) and stated, "At this point any disagreement should find consensus in the talk page before removal."
21 June 2019 Rather than abide by the discretionary sanctions requiring edits challenged via revert to be discussed for consensus on the Talk page, 63.141.56.198 reinstated their edit. Not wanting to myself violate the discretionary sanctions by reverting a second time within 24 hours, I instead opted to open this here.
21 June 2019 Since beginning this form, this editor has again reverted their edit, which was challenged by yet another editor, Serial Number 54129 (21 June 2019)

Given that multiple others have reverted this edit, it definitely qualifies as a challenged edit and thus should not be reinstated without first finding consensus on the talk page.

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

Not Applicable

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Editor's account appears new, with only edits the last few hours. However, editing this article requires first viewing a banner noting the discretionary sanctions, so it is highly likely they are aware of them. In my revert comment, though I did not mention the sanctions directly, I did state, "At this point any disagreement should find consensus in the talk page before removal"

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

With regard to the edit itself, the editor violating sanctions incorrectly points to an inaccurate description of the article's content in the opening section as justification for removal of the content. That description notes that "refugee camps" are to be excluded from the article. However, the content in question is about concentration camps that happen to hold refugees, not "refugee camps." There are other examples of concentration camps that happen to hold refugees in other parts of the article. See List of concentration and internment camps#Australia, Canada: Internment of Jewish Refugees, Denmark: After World War II, Finland: WWII, France: Spanish Republicans, India: World War II, Netherlands.

(I have never submitted one of these requests for enforcement before, so apologies if this is inappropriate and unnecessary information.)

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21 June 2019 Notice provided to editor's talk page.

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Eric Corbett

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User who is submitting this request for enforcement: MJL (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 21:08, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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22 June 2019 This is a comment about RFA.
22 June 2019 Bbb23 gives him an out.
22 June 2019 Corbett then expresses open contempt for this topic ban.

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

This seems awfully cut and dry. (Non-administrator comment) –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 21:11, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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[6]

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User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Promethean (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 21:20, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

User against whom enforcement is requested: Eric Corbett (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

[7] Eric violates his restriction at RFA, by engaging in discussion not directed at the candidate or voting.
[8] Eric is reminded of his editing restriction by User:Bbb23
[9] Eric responds antagonistically in violation of civility restrictions contained in Interactions at GGTF decision.

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

[10] Block log; Too many to list.

If discretionary sanctions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:AC/DS#Awareness and alerts)

Not Applicable; Standard AE request.

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

Not a big issue, but probably something worth having an admin removing and reminding him about before it escalates into something more substantive.

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+; [[WP:DIFF|Diffs]] of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation ''how'' these edits violate it :
+#[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Daffy123&diff=prev&oldid=902964078] Eric violates his restriction at RFA, by engaging in discussion not directed at the candidate or voting.
+#[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Daffy123&diff=902964078&oldid=902961884] Eric is reminded of his editing restriction by [[User:Bbb23]]
+#[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Daffy123&diff=902975859&oldid=902975501e] Eric responds antagonistically in violation of civility restrictions contained in  Interactions at GGTF decision.
+; Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any :
+#[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3AEric+Corbett] Block log; Too many to list.
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