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The result of the move request was: There is a '''consensus against move.''' —usernamekiran • sign the [[User:Usernamekiran/guestbook|guestbook]] • [[User talk:usernamekiran|(talk)]] 16:27, 7 December 2021 (UTC) |
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[[:Stereotypes of the British]] → {{no redirect|Stereotypes of Britain}} – Article includes a section on Britain's weather which does not relate to the British people [[Special:Contributions/2603:9000:CA02:CACC:6DF0:812:566D:CE0E|2603:9000:CA02:CACC:6DF0:812:566D:CE0E]] ([[User talk:2603:9000:CA02:CACC:6DF0:812:566D:CE0E|talk]]) 03:32, 24 November 2021 (UTC) <small>— '''''Relisting.''''' [[User:Extraordinary Writ|Extraordinary Writ]] ([[User talk:Extraordinary Writ|talk]]) 04:11, 1 December 2021 (UTC)</small> |
[[:Stereotypes of the British]] → {{no redirect|Stereotypes of Britain}} – Article includes a section on Britain's weather which does not relate to the British people [[Special:Contributions/2603:9000:CA02:CACC:6DF0:812:566D:CE0E|2603:9000:CA02:CACC:6DF0:812:566D:CE0E]] ([[User talk:2603:9000:CA02:CACC:6DF0:812:566D:CE0E|talk]]) 03:32, 24 November 2021 (UTC) <small>— '''''Relisting.''''' [[User:Extraordinary Writ|Extraordinary Writ]] ([[User talk:Extraordinary Writ|talk]]) 04:11, 1 December 2021 (UTC)</small> |
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*'''Oppose''', the climate or geography of a region isn't a stereotype. --[[User:Lord Belbury|Lord Belbury]] ([[User talk:Lord Belbury|talk]]) 08:56, 1 December 2021 (UTC) |
*'''Oppose''', the climate or geography of a region isn't a stereotype. --[[User:Lord Belbury|Lord Belbury]] ([[User talk:Lord Belbury|talk]]) 08:56, 1 December 2021 (UTC) |
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*'''Oppose''' per Bazza. --[[User:The Tips of Apmh|<span style="color:#0000FF">The Tips of</span>]] [[User talk:The Tips of Apmh|<span style="color:#00b02f">'''Apmh'''</span>]] 13:48, 1 December 2021 (UTC) |
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Neutral Point of View/ Other Issues
This article is too opinion-based and overall needs some heavy revision. The following are a few of the several problems with this article.
- All of the negative stereotypes contain some sort of counterargument, while none of the positive stereotypes are disputed.
"In reality, however, the UK has seen some record-breaking sunny weather as well and also it rains less quantity in London than Sydney or Miami."
- The rainfall in Sydney and Miami is irrelevant.
"Tea is seen as a key part of British culture."
- This is under the section 'Positive stereotypes', but I do not see a reasoning for why it would be considered 'positive'.
"Football is very popular in the United Kingdom, and has some of the best players in the world."
- This is an opinion.
"British people overall are welcoming to people of different nationalities and sexualities." "British people eat a huge variety of dishes from a great wealth of cultures."
- Both of these statements are dubious and overgeneralizing.
Again, these are only a few of the large amount of problems and I believe that this article needs a major overhaul in one way or another. There are also several problems that do not involve POV, including, but not limited to, grammar, reliability of sources, formatting, and relevance of material.
Momo824 (talk) 10:54, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
It's still a work in progress but I have started to address some of the concerns you raised here.Llewee (talk) 21:38, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
Personally I think since the very subject of stereotypes of an ethnic group is so subjective, it needs a complete overhaul or else deletion. St Judas the Lazarene (talk) 10:55, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
What was wrong with my revisions?
@Snowded: Why did you revert my changes, which were well-sourced? You seem to be trying to make things look worse than they are. St Judas the Lazarene (talk) 12:56, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
- Well simply stating my reason for reversion in reverse will not make progress. You were bold, you were reverted now make the case for the changes if you think you were right -----Snowded TALK 06:47, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
Teeth
This presupposes that the stereotype is based on Americans viewing British teeth as unhealthy. In my experience, it's not based on any assumption of health. Americans (the ones perpetuating the stereotype) just think that it looks bad.
I'll point out, that as it stands, the piece implicitly admits that American and British teeth DO look different; it's not a misperception. (This is contrary to my own personal experience, though; the British that I meet here tend to have teeth as straight and white as Americans.) Drsruli (talk) 14:06, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
Requested move 24 November 2021
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: There is a consensus against move. —usernamekiran • sign the guestbook • (talk) 16:27, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
Stereotypes of the British → Stereotypes of Britain – Article includes a section on Britain's weather which does not relate to the British people 2603:9000:CA02:CACC:6DF0:812:566D:CE0E (talk) 03:32, 24 November 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 04:11, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose - Britain is too ambiguous. We should keep articles' contents on-topic, rather than change their names to fit whatever someone randomly decides to include. (I've removed that co-called stereotype from the article.) Bazza (talk) 15:20, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
- Comment Rather than "Stereotypes of Britain" it should be renamed to Sterotypes of the United Kingdom, the article often points out "UK" rather than "British" which do not mean the same thing, as the UK owns terrritory outside of Britain, and this information would be helpful to include. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spider241 (talk • contribs) 01:59, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose, the climate or geography of a region isn't a stereotype. --Lord Belbury (talk) 08:56, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose per Bazza. --The Tips of Apmh 13:48, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
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