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::::::To be clear, the source I used indeed says Thompson "is Catholic". It just doesn't quote Klay saying so. [[User:Natemup|natemup]] ([[User talk:Natemup|talk]]) 15:09, 3 February 2021 (UTC) |
::::::To be clear, the source I used indeed says Thompson "is Catholic". It just doesn't quote Klay saying so. [[User:Natemup|natemup]] ([[User talk:Natemup|talk]]) 15:09, 3 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:::::::The source that you used simply says {{tq|Klay Thompson is Catholic.|q=yes}} That does not look very credible since there is nothing in other sources that would support it. The source also says that {{tq|[[Shaun Livingston]] is Lutheran.|q=yes}} and that can easily be supported with [https://web.archive.org/web/20160501193612/https://www.pjstar.com/article/20160426/NEWS/160429482 this article] – {{tq|Livingston graduated from Concordia’s eighth-grade class in 2000 and still maintains membership at Trinity Lutheran Church...|q=yes}} – [[User:Sabbatino|Sabbatino]] ([[User talk:Sabbatino|talk]]) 15:55, 3 February 2021 (UTC) |
:::::::The source that you used simply says {{tq|Klay Thompson is Catholic.|q=yes}} That does not look very credible since there is nothing in other sources that would support it. The source also says that {{tq|[[Shaun Livingston]] is Lutheran.|q=yes}} and that can easily be supported with [https://web.archive.org/web/20160501193612/https://www.pjstar.com/article/20160426/NEWS/160429482 this article] – {{tq|Livingston graduated from Concordia’s eighth-grade class in 2000 and still maintains membership at Trinity Lutheran Church...|q=yes}} – [[User:Sabbatino|Sabbatino]] ([[User talk:Sabbatino|talk]]) 15:55, 3 February 2021 (UTC) |
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::::::Agreed. [[User:Sabbatino]] has a tendency to be difficult and split hairs for the sake of arguing. I support adding Klay Thompson is Chatolic to he section since it has the relevant sourcing until proven otherwise. That's 2-1 majority. [[User:Belevalo|Belevalo]] ([[User talk:Belevalo|talk]]) 17:57, 3 February 2021 (UTC) |
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Shooting duo
Further mention of Steph Curry and Klay Thompson shooting combination:
- Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson form one of the best shooting combinations in the league, according to Tim Legler. http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=9257383
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Sidelight12 (talk • contribs) 08:40, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Mention of mother
THOMPSON'S MOTHER? She gets no credit? A caucasian woman? It reads like his dad had the first male birthing.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.189.114.131 (talk) 03:01, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 3 April 2020
{{edit semi-protected|Klay Thompson|answered=yes}
In his personal life section, add: "Thompson has been in a relationship with American actress Laura Harrier since 2018."
I recommend this change because there are many sources online about their relationship. They have both, especially Harrier, shared pictures on vacation and at events. Laura's Wikipedia page has this fact in her personal life section and I thought it would be reasonable and necessary for this fact to also be on Klay's page. Also, the relationship is serious as Laura actually moved from New York City to Los Angeles to live with him. They now share a house. All of this information can be found online and it's a fact that they're dating. Factfanatic1 (talk) 00:02, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
Not done. Please provide a reliable source that supports this change. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 00:05, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
Here are some sources: https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/11/22/klay-thompson-gets-cozy-with-actress-girlfriend-in-bay-area/ https://www.sfgate.com/warriors/article/klay-thompson-gq-travel-essentials-list-14910738.php https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/everything-you-should-know-about-nba-star-klay-thompsons-girlfriend-laura-harrier.html/ https://sports.yahoo.com/klay-thompson-wears-kimono-japanese-043439640.html https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2019/11/22/klay-thompson-gets-cozy-with-actress-girlfriend-in-bay-area/ https://www.santacruzsentinel.com/2019/11/22/klay-thompson-gets-cozy-with-actress-girlfriend-in-bay-area/?obref=obinsite https://www.instagram.com/p/B5IyPmCgd2w/ https://www.instagram.com/p/B7PLokThecx/ https://nypost.com/2019/01/08/klay-thompson-spotted-at-golden-globes-party-with-laura-harrier/ Factfanatic1 (talk) 00:36, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
{{edit semi-protected}}
template. Their is a concern with dating news conflicting with WP:NOTDIARY.—Bagumba (talk) 05:24, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
How do I establish a consensus? Everyone that knows Klay and Laura knows they’re dating and I thought I provided reliable sources. Factfanatic1 (talk) 18:56, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
Lead bloat
Anandpadman91 (talk · contribs), reverted for similar reasons I reverted you at the Stephen Curry article. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 04:42, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
I restored the injury bit to the lead. We can also discuss whether it's best to have that in the lead. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 04:49, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
African-American
The article says nowhere at all that Thompson is "black" or "African-American". Per WP:EGRS and WP:CATV, we need a reliable secondary source supporting PROSE in the article which supports the categories, or we cannot retain the categories as added by @Natemup:. Elizium23 (talk) 04:15, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
- He's clearly described as the American son of a Afro-Bahamian American immigrant. natemup (talk) 05:29, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Catholic
Claim and source was added concerning Klay's Catholicism, which was thereafter reverted without explanation. I undid the reversion, have had multiple discussions on talk pages, and am now attempting avoiding the 3RR rule by posting this discussion. Another user has already nearly broken the rule today by reverting the edits again, claiming that because the source does not quote Klay, it can't be used.
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/watchinggod/2018/05/what-the-golden-state-warriors-can-teach-us-about-being-christian-in-a-post-christian-america/ natemup (talk) 15:33, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Natemup: First of all, you also almost broke the rule so stop singling me out. Furhermore, WP:CAT/R quite clearly says that
Categories regarding religious beliefs or lack of such beliefs of a living person should not be used unless the subject has publicly self-identified with the belief in question (see WP:BLPCAT), either through direct speech or through actions like serving in an official clerical position for the religion.
If a source supporting the highlighted part of WP:EGRS exists then show it here, because the source that you insist on using simply saysKlay Thompson is Catholic.
, which does not justify anything. – Sabbatino (talk) 13:53, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- While I understand your point, that policy does not say the source itself has to be the person or the action. It would seem that the source can merely represent the fact that the belief or action is present. The claim is being made that Klay is Catholic, which (given that Patheos is a quality source) indicates that Klay has in fact claim publicly to be Catholic. To what other cause can we attribute a quality source making such a claim about a celebrity's religion? Is this not a source of religion info for notable people all over Wikipedia? natemup (talk) 14:04, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- As stated above, WP:CAT/R does say
... through direct speech or through actions like serving in an official clerical position for the religion.
—Bagumba (talk) 14:19, 3 February 2021 (UTC)- @Natemup: The guideline quite clearly says that he must self-identify with being Catholic, which means that the source must support the claim. The source that you imply on using does not support it since there is no citation by Thompson or any other proof where he would say "I am Catholic". Searching on Google does not support it either, because almost all of the sources there simply say that he attended a Catholic school, which is not the same as being Catholic. You can attend a religious school, but not affiliate yourself with any religion. Are you here to discuss the matter or are you just WP:NOTGETTINGIT. – Sabbatino (talk) 14:22, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- This USA Today article says that Thompson was "raised in a Catholic household". I suspect that the author did confirm that much, at least, based on Thompson's quotes in the article about playing under Mark Jackson. That's still not the same as saying Thompson is a Catholic/Christian/etc. People can grow up with a religion and change over time. Zagalejo^^^ 15:08, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- To be clear, the source I used indeed says Thompson "is Catholic". It just doesn't quote Klay saying so. natemup (talk) 15:09, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- The source that you used simply says
Klay Thompson is Catholic.
That does not look very credible since there is nothing in other sources that would support it. The source also says thatShaun Livingston is Lutheran.
and that can easily be supported with this article –Livingston graduated from Concordia’s eighth-grade class in 2000 and still maintains membership at Trinity Lutheran Church...
– Sabbatino (talk) 15:55, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- The source that you used simply says
- Agreed. User:Sabbatino has a tendency to be difficult and split hairs for the sake of arguing. I support adding Klay Thompson is Chatolic to he section since it has the relevant sourcing until proven otherwise. That's 2-1 majority. Belevalo (talk) 17:57, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- To be clear, the source I used indeed says Thompson "is Catholic". It just doesn't quote Klay saying so. natemup (talk) 15:09, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- This USA Today article says that Thompson was "raised in a Catholic household". I suspect that the author did confirm that much, at least, based on Thompson's quotes in the article about playing under Mark Jackson. That's still not the same as saying Thompson is a Catholic/Christian/etc. People can grow up with a religion and change over time. Zagalejo^^^ 15:08, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Natemup: The guideline quite clearly says that he must self-identify with being Catholic, which means that the source must support the claim. The source that you imply on using does not support it since there is no citation by Thompson or any other proof where he would say "I am Catholic". Searching on Google does not support it either, because almost all of the sources there simply say that he attended a Catholic school, which is not the same as being Catholic. You can attend a religious school, but not affiliate yourself with any religion. Are you here to discuss the matter or are you just WP:NOTGETTINGIT. – Sabbatino (talk) 14:22, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- As stated above, WP:CAT/R does say
- While I understand your point, that policy does not say the source itself has to be the person or the action. It would seem that the source can merely represent the fact that the belief or action is present. The claim is being made that Klay is Catholic, which (given that Patheos is a quality source) indicates that Klay has in fact claim publicly to be Catholic. To what other cause can we attribute a quality source making such a claim about a celebrity's religion? Is this not a source of religion info for notable people all over Wikipedia? natemup (talk) 14:04, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
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