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One specific bitcointalk link[edit]

Moot: article has been deleted. Guy (help!) 10:05, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The sidechains article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidechain_(ledger)) lacks a reference to when the term "sidechain" was first publicly used. The oldest known public reference to this term seems to be in the aforementioned article on bitcointalk, but bitcointalk website is blacklisted. Therefore I request an exception to link to this page in order to provide the proper historical reference and definition of the term. Historical references are useful to explain how the term was used originally and compare to its definition nowadays.— Preceding unsigned comment added by SergioDemianLerner (talk • contribs)

@SergioDemianLerner: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 06:03, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Beetstra, but the rationale is blatant WP:OR. Guy (help!) 08:24, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
JzG, I would call it blatant primary sourcing (though I agree that using a wiki for sourcing is a no-no). Dirk Beetstra T C 08:34, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Beetstra, The OR is "the first public use of the term dates back to 2012" - this is a mention (in an unreliable source) but who says it's the first public mention? The wiki doesn't support the claim. There's a problem with bitcoin.it HTTPS links HTTP links as well, of course. Guy (help!) 10:32, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
JzG, that stands and falls with finding a source that uses it earlier - until then this is the source that uses it first. Dirk Beetstra T C 10:55, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Beetstra, and that's original research, Dirk. "This is the earliest I can find" is not the same as "this is the earliest (ref: reliable source saying it's the earliest). Dictionaries can do this, and we can then cite the dictionaries as authorities for first use, but Wikipedia editors can't. Guy (help!) 11:29, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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docdroid / OpalRaptor[edit]

Sockpuppet of Lapitavenator blocked. Guy (help!) 10:02, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I just want this specific link on docdroid.net to be whitelisted please (its a link to a book i have written about mesozoic cuba). i need it for the article about the extinct turtle Notoemys.OpalRaptor (please) 15:29, 24 April 2020 (GMT)

no Declined. I'm really sorry, but this material is not in any way a reliable source to be using on Wikipedia. Additionally, you seem to be copying images in your book in a way that violates the copyrights of the image creators; you really want to correct that. Kuru (talk) 15:37, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Tatelumps: pile on no Declined. Use a reference to the original, there is no need for a convenience copy with the risk of it being a copyvio. See WP:LINKVIO. Also, maimed the link that was originally requested per said policy. --Dirk Beetstra T C 15:42, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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casino.guru[edit]

WP:SPA blocked. Guy (help!) 09:31, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi! I wanted to know if these pages of casino.guru website can be whitelisted. I wanted to use valuable info out of it and I couldn't because it's blacklisted so I reached out to talk: spam blacklist and they sent me here. I think this site is not spammy, has valuable information for people in their guide. I actually wanted to add information to the roulette page,blackjak and slot machines in Wikipedia, but it was not possible. It's only in spam list because every site including guru in it is automatically banned. Do you think it would be possible to whitelist it due to the fact it's really useful for adding more information (for people to use) to Wikipedia? Thank you for your response.JohnyH9 (talk) 11:19, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@JohnyH9: no Declined, not a reliable source. --Dirk Beetstra T C 11:38, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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One specific article of mejorcasino.xyz[edit]

Another sock blocked. Guy (help!) 19:03, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I was going to add in the spanish wikipedia article https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conteo_de_cartas about a card counting method called AS/CINCO (ACE/FIVE in spanish) but sadly the only resource in spanish of such method is the following one https://mejorcasino . xyz/blackjack-3-metodos-infalibles-para-el-blackjack-online/ and is blocked because of a URL called casino . xyz Hope anyone could help me with that. --777bratan777 (talk) 18:09, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If that's the only source, you need to find another one. Also, this request page is for English Wikipedia, not es wiki. Praxidicae (talk) 18:38, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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bitcointalk.org[edit]

  • Link requested to be whitelisted: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=172991.msg1801451#msg1801451
  • Link requested to be whitelisted: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279249
  • Link requested to be whitelisted: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=919116.msg10096563
  • Link requested to be whitelisted: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=532.msg6306#msg6306
  • Link requested to be whitelisted: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93848.msg1037745#msg1037745

There are six whitelisted links to the crypto forum bitcointalk. This is not a reliable source, usage has been on a WP:ABOUTSELF/WP:SPS basis. The above five are unused and should be removed from the whitelist.

There is one remaining, apparently legitimate use:

Any objections to me removing them? Guy (help!) 10:13, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Remove Nairaland.com[edit]

Nairaland.com is blacklisted. I don't know the reason for that. UncleSnr (talk) 07:51, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@UncleSnr: likely because it was spammed. --Dirk Beetstra T C 07:55, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

no Declined. Hi UncleSnr, Nairaland was added to the spam blacklist because it was frequently used in violation of the biographies of living persons policy, as discussed in Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 272 § Nairaland. If there are specific pages on Nairaland that you would like to cite, and the citations comply with the verifiability policy and reliable sources guideline, then please request whitelisting of these specific pages here. — Newslinger talk 08:46, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

pornhub.com/insights/belle-delphine[edit]

This link is currently blocked and I totally understand why pornhub.com is blocked. I'm trying to add this link as a reference/citation for the following sentence: Pornhub Insights also published an article detailing that Kirschner's videos became the most-disliked in the history of the website.

I think this is a pretty reasonable usage of the the blocked webpage and the sentence it would be referencing is rather relevant to the prose. Best wishes, Soulbust (talk) 05:38, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Soulbust: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 06:47, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Beetstra: Hey thank you so much for adding it to the whitelist! However, when I tried to add the https:// variant of the link in the url parameter of the reference, it triggered the spam warning message. Is there any way to fix this? Soulbust (talk) 07:04, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Soulbust: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist - my script crashed and I did not notice (busy with other things). Trying again. --Dirk Beetstra T C 08:37, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Beetstra: Just tried it out and it's working. Thank you, I really appreciate it! Soulbust (talk) 09:01, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nolo.com[edit]

1. Explain why the site should be whitelisted.

I believe the conclusion of this discussion is that Nolo.com should be whitelisted.
I don't believe it has been yet, and I would appreciate it if it were so I can use it as a source.

2.Explain which articles would benefit from the addition of the link.

Any article having to do with law.

3.Provide the specific link to the page you're requesting be added.

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/is-violating-a-shelter-in-place-order-a-crime.html

nolo.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com

I tried to link in a Nolo.com article, and I had to mess up the link so editors could look at it here. --David Tornheim (talk) 16:07, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

David Tornheim, what you are looking for is a delisting request at WT:SBL. --Dirk Beetstra T C 16:28, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. --Dirk Beetstra T C 16:31, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Crap, wait. I should learn to read:
  • Link requested to be whitelisted: nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/
That is what we want. --Dirk Beetstra T C 16:33, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@David Tornheim: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 16:33, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Beetstra: Thanks. That takes care of the problem indeed. --David Tornheim (talk) 04:16, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

420chan.org[edit]

420chan.org: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com

Per MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist § 420chan.org, permalink [1]. While there I asked that the entire domain be unblocked, User:JzG refused on the grounds that the list actually had been recently purged, which I didn't know, so if it wasn't really needed it wouldn't even be there. I agree with them that this domain will never be a source on any article but 420chan, so I am narrowing my request to only allow the index through so that I may link it in {{Infobox website}}, similar to what we do for 4chan, etc. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) 10:06, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Psiĥedelisto: per /Common requests#About, we would need an about-page or a full url (including an index.htm) of the index page. Can you please provide a suitable link? --Dirk Beetstra T C 10:43, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Beetstra: Sorry, missed that
Link requested to be whitelisted: 420chan.org/index.php
seems to work fine. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) 11:43, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Psiĥedelisto: No probs! plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 11:46, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Re-ping User:Psiĥedelisto, my script seems to have mispinged due to an error of me. --Dirk Beetstra T C 11:49, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

420chan.org/what.htm[edit]

@Beetstra: Do you mind also allowing Link requested to be whitelisted: 420chan.org/what.htm? Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) 12:07, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Psiĥedelisto, for the record, do you mind to state the use/reason? Dirk Beetstra T C 12:26, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Beetstra: Sure. I plan to write this: According to its founder, its name is a portmanteau of 420, a slang word originating in cannabis culture but now applicable to drug culture more generally, and 4chan, another imageboard website., cited to that page, which existed in 2008 (see http://web.archive.org/web/20080207023015/http://www.420chan.org/what.htm. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) 12:36, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Psiĥedelisto: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 12:48, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

420chan.org/blog/2015/10/10/first-new-board-in-four-years/[edit]

@Beetstra: Really very sorry to ping you again...I hate doing it three times. Someone on Twitter wondered whether they actually claim the foundation date, or if it only comes from WHOIS, which might be too WP:OR. I did read it on their Facebook page, but it seems like they changed the wording slightly to Est 2005 and there's no archive of it so that's not citeable. I found a blog post, however, that states it outright (their whole blog seems down at moment):
  • http://web.archive.org/web/20190224100651/https://420chan.org/blog/2015/10/10/first-new-board-in-four-years/
  • Link requested to be whitelisted: 420chan.org/blog/2015/10/10/first-new-board-in-four-years/
I'd like to cite this as well. It should be allowed under WP:ABOUTSELF. Instead of pinging you a fourth time, I'll just refrain from adding any more links :P It might make sense to whitelist the whole blog, but obviously it's up to you. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) 13:21, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Now I'm the one that forgot you need to put the username on the same line as the signature to make a ping, Beetstra. Stuff's not going my way today. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) 13:22, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Psiĥedelisto: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 14:18, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

swarajyamag.com/about-us[edit]

About Us page for Swarajya, used in infobox and "External links" section. — Newslinger talk 20:38, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. — Newslinger talk 20:38, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

beenverified.com[edit]

Someone hijacked the links of my company's article page BeenVerified, and editing it back caused our actual homepage to get added to the global blacklist so we cannot undo the hijacked edit

The timeline of events:

April 10 - A new Wikipedia user performs their only edit - on our company's page, changing the URL to a domain under their own control (but not the text of the link). This ultimately redirects the user to our homepage, after setting some referral links along the way.

May 22 - We notice the change and revert that edit to the page, resetting the link to our official home page.

May 23 - The user changes the URL on our page back to their hijacked domain.

May 26 - The global spam blacklist is updated with our home page URL.

We are no longer able to revert the edit. How do we proceed from here? Reading through the recurring requests section, it seems like simply asking for it to get removed will be denied, yet at the same time someone is allowed to hijack our URL - this does not seem like what Wikipedia was built for. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swbvofficial (talk • contribs) 20:03, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Swbvofficial: no Declined, this needs to be done on meta:  Defer to Global blacklist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 20:30, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Handled there. —Dirk Beetstra T C 20:37, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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