Carlisle Turkish baths

Coordinates: 54°53′24″N 2°56′06″W / 54.8899°N 2.9349°W / 54.8899; -2.9349
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Carlisle Turkish baths
Interior of Carlisle Turkish Baths: plunge pool and changing rooms
Map
General information
Type
LocationCarlisle, Cumbria
AddressJames Street
CountryEngland
Coordinates54°53′24″N 2°56′06″W / 54.8899°N 2.9349°W / 54.8899; -2.9349
Opened1909 (1909)
Closed2022 (2022)
Cost£2,500
Design and construction
Architect(s)Henry C Marks, Percy Dalton
Main contractorWilliam Johnstone
DesignationsGrade II Listed
Other information
Facilitiessteam room, hot rooms, massage slabs, plunge pool, launderette
Website
carlislebaths.co.uk
Façade of the Turkish Baths with the Victorian swimming pool to the left

The Carlisle Turkish baths were an Edwardian public baths in Carlisle, Cumbria, England. They adjoined the city's 1884 swimming pool and were constructed in 1908-1909. The baths offered saunas, plunge pools and shower and were advertised as providing health benefits to patrons. These typical Victorian-style Turkish baths remained in use until November 2022 and retain their original tiling and faience work, which is of unusually good quality. A local campaign is seeking to reopen the baths.

Description[edit]

The building's red-brick western façade faces onto James Street; it was the only external wall visible from outside until the demolition of adjacent buildings on the southern side. The western portion of the building includes the main entrance leading to an attendant's room and waiting rooms. This single-storey structure was enclosed by a 2-storey structure at a later date, leaving a relatively plain façade and entrance. The entrance block retains the original glazed doors and the attendant's room features a corner fireplace.[1]

A corridor from the entrance block leads into a double-height structure housing a cooling room and a single-storey structure containing a plunge bath, shower room and Russian vapour bath. The cooling room is the centrepiece of the complex and retains the original concrete plunge bath and steps, lined in white-glazed bricks. Five changing rooms along the walls have green and yellow tiled surrounds.[1] A stained-glass ceiling is lit from above by a lantern atop a pyramidal roof.[2][1]

A single-storey structure adjacent to the cooling room houses a further plunge bath, shower room and Russian vapour bath. A two-storey block beyond the cooling room houses a shampooing room and beyond that are three warm rooms (saunas).[1]

The roofs are in slate.[1] The interior is oriental themed, with Moorish-style arches, and includes art nouveau motifs such as paired tiles.[3][1] The interior has a terrazzo floor and marble benches.[1] The faience and tiling throughout makes use of pale green, pale blue and buff glazes and has been described as being of "good quality and complete".[3][1]

History[edit]

Planning for a Turkish baths in Carlisle began in 1884 when the swimming pool was opened at James Street by the County Borough of Carlisle. The borough revived the plans in 1901 and agreed to proceed with construction of the baths, adjacent to the swimming pool, in 1902. Designs, by the county surveyor Henry C Marks, were not approved until 1908. Construction was carried out by William Johnstone of Carlisle at a total cost of £2,500; the tiling and faience work was by Minton and Hollins of Stoke-on-Trent.[4][1]

The baths opened to the public on 20 September 1909.[1] They were advertised for the "alleviation of rheumatism and kindred ailments, general tonic effect, obesity and alleviation of stress".[2] Bathers initially paid between 1 and 2 shillings for a session of around 1.5 hours.[1] In 1957 more than 100,000 people used the baths and adjacent swimming pool.[5] In the 1960s the baths also offered massages and tea and toast was served to the changing rooms.[2]

The baths were granted statutory protection by Historic England on 19 February 2010 as a grade II listed building. The organisation described them as "an increasingly rare example of a once common building form, of which only around 20 remain in England; it compares very favourably with the eight existing listed Turkish Baths".[1] An October 2022 report in The Guardian describes them as "one of the most affordable Turkish baths in the UK, with entry costing £7.10".[2] In late 2022 the baths won the "best small tourist attraction" prize at the Cumbria Life Awards. By this time the running of the baths had been outsourced to Better Leisure.[3] Between September and October 2022 the mirrors in the baths' cubicles went missing and their theft was reported to Cumbria Police.[6]

Closure[edit]

In late 2022 Carlisle City Council determined that the baths were too expensive to run, citing running costs of around £26,500 a month.[7] The adjacent swimming pool complex had already been sold for development, which increased the costs of running the baths as a standalone attraction.[3] The baths closed on 12 November 2022.[5] The closure left only eleven operational Turkish baths in the UK, out of around 700 originally built, and only eight remaining open to the public.[2]

A campaign group, the Friends of Carlisle Victorian and Turkish Baths, was formed to campaign for the reopening of the baths, which were the last Turkish baths in North West England.[7] The campaigners hope to turn the site into a health and wellbeing centre, with one of the pools converted into a hydrotherapy facility, and treatment rooms and an ice grotto installed.[2] The campaign hopes that local government changes, which will see the city come under Cumberland Council from April 2023, may lead to a reconsideration of the closure.[7] The chair of the campaign to save the baths, Julie Minns, was in February 2023, selected as the Labour Party candidate for the city's constituency in the next United Kingdom general election.[8][9]

Timeline[edit]

Year [10] Event
1883 Carlisle baths sub committee visit the Liverpool Public Baths and agree to build a laundry, plunge pools, showers, slipper and vapour baths to promote health and hygiene of the people of Carlisle.
1884 Carlisle’s Public Baths open. An area adjacent to the new baths is set aside for ‘Turkish Baths’.
1908 After several delays, a contract to build the Turkish Baths is signed with local builder William Johnstone. Apart from tiling by Minton and Hollins of Stoke-on-Trent, and heating and ventilation work by Constantine’s of Manchester, all the working done by local craftsmen.
1909 The Turkish Baths open!
1922 Carlisle United players are given a 10% discount to use the Baths.
1937 One of several attempts to close the Baths is abandoned after Carlisle doctors support it remaining open.
Late 1950’s Turkish Baths close.
1959 Turkish Baths reopen.
1991 A threatened closure is averted after a group of longstanding users organise a petition.
2010 Carlisle MP, Eric Martlew, successfully applies for the Baths to be listed.
2021 January Carlisle Council commissions a Feasibility Study to “consider a series of alternative functions" for the Baths.
2021 May The Friends of Carlisle Victorian and Turkish Baths is formed.
2022 April The Friends become a registered charity The AHF award the Friends a grant for a viability study.
2022 Carlisle City Council votes to close the Turkish Baths.

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References[edit]

  1. ^ a b c d e f g h i j k l "Turkish Suite, The Pools - 1393755". Historic England. Archived from the original on 16 March 2023. Retrieved 16 March 2023.
  2. ^ a b c d e f Pidd, Helen (2 October 2022). "'I'd be lost without it': locals battle to save Carlisle's Turkish baths". The Guardian. Archived from the original on 24 March 2023. Retrieved 16 March 2023.
  3. ^ a b c d "Nooks and Corners". Private Eye. No. 1585. 4 November 2022. p. 22.
  4. ^ Shifrin, Malcolm (2015). Victorian Turkish baths. Swindon: Historic England. p. 128. ISBN 978-1-84802-230-0.
  5. ^ a b "Say goodbye to Carlisle Pools with a great big hug - cumbriacrack.com". 8 November 2022. Archived from the original on 21 November 2022. Retrieved 16 March 2023.
  6. ^ Dempsey, Bridget (19 November 2022). "Concern after original mirrors go missing from closed Turkish Baths". News and Star. Archived from the original on 21 November 2022. Retrieved 16 March 2023.
  7. ^ a b c "Carlisle's Turkish baths shut after 113 years due to costs". BBC News. 14 November 2022. Archived from the original on 25 November 2022. Retrieved 16 March 2023.
  8. ^ Cavanagh, Gareth (24 October 2022). "Denton Holme woman's bid to be Labour candidate for Carlisle in next election". News and Star. Archived from the original on 21 November 2022. Retrieved 16 March 2023.
  9. ^ Rawlinson, Ollie (20 February 2023). "Labour selects Carlisle candidate for next general election". News and Star. Archived from the original on 16 March 2023. Retrieved 16 March 2023.
  10. ^ "The History of Carlisle Baths". Carlisle Victorian and Turkish Baths.