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Pronunciation Guides Should Be A Required Component of Biography Entries

I regularly consult Wikipedia in search of pronunciation guides to the names of famous people not of English origin, most recently Tomaž Šalamun. Entries I've read more recently seem to lack them, whereas, in the past, I recall having been able to find them. I suggest that biography entries lacking both a written and hyperlinked audio file guide to pronunciation of the subject's name be flagged as incomplete until that information is added.ProphecyRecipe (talk) 16:45, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

I think part of the problem is that few of us understand the International Phonetic Alphabet. It's confusing and looks like gibberish to non-linguists. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 18:27, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

I think deprecating readable pronunciation guides was a mistake. I understand the argument about readable guides being imprecise, but imprecise and readable is better than precise and incomprehensible. Kendall-K1 (talk) 21:45, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Jean Alfonse article

Opinions are needed on the following matter: Talk:Jean Alfonse#Recent edits. A permalink for it is here. The matter primarily concerns whether or not Jean Alfonse was Portugese and what the title of the article should be. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 00:00, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

September 2017 at Women in Red

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User:Davidgoodheart

Could someone take a look at the recent edits of User:Davidgoodheart? He seems enthusiastic and working in good faith but I'm not sure we really want categories like Category:Deceased American Celebrities? Some mentoring might be in order? Le Deluge (talk) 13:53, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Biram Dah Abeid

Is any information out of date? Is anything missing that could be added?

-Biram's recent activity isn't up to date as of Sept.2017 and some pictures of him demonstrating along with his organization couldn't hurt.ElgeStevens (talk) 22:01, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Uma Thurman stalking case

Hi, all. Opinions are needed on the following matter: Talk:Uma Thurman#Request for comment. A permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 17:35, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Was the removal of content about Arab/Levantine passengers from the Titanic justified? (not involving living people)

Please see this talk page section Talk:Passengers_of_the_RMS_Titanic#Was_the_removal_of_info_on_Arab.2FLevantine_passengers_sourced_from_Al_Arabiya_justified.3F on whether the removal of content about Arab/Levantine passengers from the Titanic justified. In particular: is it necessary that information on the demographic makeup of the Levantine/Arab passengers come from a formal historian, or would an Al Arabiya news article be enough?

Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 05:23, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

I have studied with Dennis Hirota, off and on, for about 25 years. He is a brilliant scholar who is deeply engaged with the Buddhist teachings and the nembutsu practice. North Americans tend to distinguish Buddhist scholars from practitioners, as if you cannot be both. In Asia it is assumed that one must be both, to be either. Jundo Gregory Gibbs, Resident Minister (Jushoku), Pasadena Buddhist Temple [Jodo Shinshu, Hongwanji-ha). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.207.93.80 (talk) 18:08, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Howard Leslie Elliott for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Howard Leslie Elliott is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Howard Leslie Elliott until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BSOleader (talk • contribs) 00:27, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Cannabis in South Africa#David Carradine, dagga, racism and the Apartheid State

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Cannabis in South Africa#David Carradine, dagga, racism and the Apartheid State. -- Marchjuly (talk) 15:10, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

RfC: Should the WP:TALK guideline discourage interleaving?

Opinions are needed on the following matter: Wikipedia talk:Talk page guidelines#RfC: Should the guideline discourage interleaving?. A permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 02:31, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Potentially interesting meta data for WikiProject Biography

I am a member of WikiProject Days of the year. In that capacity I've been doing some work trying to lift the quality of projects WP:DAYS and WP:YEARS. Recently I launched this (bit verbose) proposal. To make my point clear I created a this wikitable. The data in the table is generated by an application that analyses the wikitext of the biographies. I realised that this data could potentially also be of interest to this project. For instance: it is clear that a lot of listed unreferenced bio's have not been flagged as such (and vice versa).
You can find more sample data in this Excel file (yes, it is safe). As far as I know until now no bot or application exists that can compile this kind of information. I'd like to offer my assistance. Could this be useful to this project and if yes what kind of information would this project be interested in? Cheers, Mill 1 (talk) 12:45, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Serik Akhmetov

Could someone please improve Serik Akhmetov? I've just added a short subsection about his early release from prison after reading about it but I am not an expert on Kazakhstan. Thanks!Zigzig20s (talk) 21:10, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

Hello, Please note that George Lazenby, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of Today's articles for improvement. The article was scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing! Delivered by — MusikBot talk 00:05, 25 September 2017 (UTC) on behalf of the TAFI team

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Alternate spelling of names

When sources disagree on the way a person's name is spelled, what is the best way to handle it in title of the article? In the article content? Examples might be Anne vs. Ann, David vs. Davide, or Helen vs. Helen? Rosalina523 (talk) 16:46, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Problem with author abbreviation for Thomas Alan Stephenson

Hi, I just want to point out that there is a problem with a template on the page Thomas Alan Stephenson. It has to do with the author's abbreviation (top of the page), but I don't know how to fix this myself. Thanks! --Jeran Renz (talk) 20:43, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

 Done Kendall-K1 (talk) 21:14, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Input needed for merge of Infobox family, Infobox surname, Infobox family name, Infobox royal house

Input requested at Template talk:Infobox surname#Merge work (and perhaps related threads at Template talk:Infobox family and Template talk:Infobox royal house). At least some of these are slated for merging (probably all of them), but there are some parameter conflicts and question. It's not entirely clear what every parameter is for (why does the surname template have a |family=?), nor what to do when there's a |gender= parameter in one and a |femnine= and |masculine= in the other. I've taken on the WP:TemplateEditor work to do the merging and have made some progress in similar templates (e.g. using matching code at Template:Infobox person and Template:Infobox officeholder and Template:Infobox Christian leader), but there's a bit more to chew on this case. I want to make sure that the final, merged result has the parameters that people actually expect and that they do something sensible, and without any panic ensuing.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  02:07, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

PS: Gritty details of the work done so far are at: Template talk:Infobox family#Merged version, ff.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  02:12, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

hi as am new I made few edits before this could you help me what content should be removed from page Jiten Lalwani so I won't repeat the same mistake if I create an article in future, anyways I am removing the content which seems like a promoting (05:34, 29 September 2017 (UTC))

Guard Brothers

It shouldn't have been speedy deleted, there is enough on the web and I would push that it would passWP:GNG. The article wasn't even prodded or afd, I really do object to User:Alex Shih use of power to delete an article without considering the projects it's under. Govvy (talk) 09:15, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

What should be in a biography...

I've contributed to lots of biographies. One is Boris Johnson, where I cut things that I usually remove, such as in this edit. The talk page discussion following the reversion of these edits has stalled for lack of contributors. The halting point was what could be included (i.e. not breaking policy) versus what should be included in a biography. It would be useful if other experienced biography editors could look in and comment. The relevant sub-section is Talk:Boris Johnson#Cuts. EddieHugh (talk) 17:00, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Li Jiancheng's bio

Hello, everyone,

I'm new here, someone interested in Chinese history, Tand and Han in particular. I just saw Li Jiancheng's wiki page, it has only 1 ref. The most recent western research on this part of history is "Cambridge History of China" is the largest and most comprehensive history of China in the English language. It was published in 1979. The wiki page is far from that. Some of the info is even quite the opposite from the Chinese historical research and evidence.

I was blocked trying to correct that info. Please help me.

Thank you.

Elainr (talk) 09:31, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject Women in Red/The World Contest

Hi. In November The Women in Red World Contest is being held to try to produce new articles for as many countries worldwide and occupations as possible. There will be over $4000 in prizes to win, including Amazon vouchers and paid subscriptions. If this would appeal to you and you think you'd be interested in contributing new articles on women during this month please sign up in the participants section. If you're not interested in prize money yourself but are willing to participate and raise money to buy books about women for others to use, this is also fine. Help would also be appreciated in drawing up the lists of missing articles. If you think of any missing articles for your project please add them to the sub lists by continent at Missing articles. Thankyou, and if taking part, good luck!♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:52, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of David Ofori-Adjei for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article David Ofori-Adjei is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Ofori-Adjei until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Theprussian (talk) 10:40, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

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Hannah Gale rename?

Annie Gale may have been born "Hannah" but she is clearly known as "Annie" which is why she was elected under the name "Annie Gale." the first woman elected in Canada, and why the school that's named after her is called Annie Gale Junior High School. Which is why it seems to me the page ought to be under the name she was known by. Laurel L. Russwurm 00:13, 22 October 2017 (UTC) Laurel L. Russwurm 04:39, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

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--Ipigott (talk) 15:38, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

File:Wade michael page police handout.png at FFD

The image File:Wade michael page police handout.png is relisted twice in FFD into the 2017 October 19 log. I invite you to comment there. --George Ho (talk) 07:47, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Ledes of "planters"/slaveholders

Hello. I've just added "Her fortune came from enslaved human beings." to the lede of Adelicia Acklen's article, which I created in 2010. Should it be removed, or rephrased? Do we have a standard of practise for these kinds of people please? I do think we should try to figure out a way to contextualize what they did. Please ping me when you reply. Thank you!Zigzig20s (talk) 14:29, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

@Zigzig20s: Please read WP:V and WP:LEAD. In this case, there is nothing in the article to support this, so I would take it out. Kendall-K1 (talk) 15:47, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

Her husband was a slave trader, and she became the richest woman in Tennessee after his death.Zigzig20s (talk) 15:49, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

I decided to remove the sentence from the lede, to comply with consensus. However, I still believe there is a problem on Wikipedia with the way we present "planters", "Southern belles" or the "Southern aristocracy". It would be good to find a way out of this conundrum. The RS we cite may be POV (they often don't contextualize the subjects).Zigzig20s (talk) 18:36, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

Ongoing FAC

Members of this WikiProject might be interested in leaving comments at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Lady Gaga/archive2. Snuggums (talk / edits) 16:11, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

does Common Name policy override BLP protection

Posted this at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Crime_and_Criminal_Biography#Common_name_v._BLP but it is relevant here tol since WP:BLPCRIME policy is derived from general BLP policy.

Are protections for living people accused of crime waived if so many newspapers say they did a crime that calling something they did a crime is acceptable due to it being the "common name" of the incident?

Seems to me like reporting a common name is valuable but that we should be using neutral article names until the prosecution rests. Why should we be saying a person attacked people if they have not been convicted of the crime of attacking people? ScratchMarshall (talk) 16:57, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

This looks like a case of WP:FORUMSHOP. It's already gone through a move, a move review, and an rfc, as well as being posted here and at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography. Kendall-K1 (talk) 17:27, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Emmet James

Was wondering if a few others would mind taking a look at Emmett James? I came across it the other day while checking on some non-free image use, and noticed the article is completely unsourced and appears to have been that way since it was created. (The only citation I found was a cite to IMDb). It also appears that lots of unsourced fluff has been added to the article by IPs/SPAs (possble COI?) since earlier this year. I've tried doing a bit of cleanup (formatting, etc.) and added some templates. I've also tried searching for sources (particularly about awards and nominations) and did find some, but none of them seem to be connected to James in any way. I'm tempted to take this to AfD, but figured I'd ask here first to see if others might have opinions on whether the article is worth keeping. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:32, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

How do I join?

I would be interested in joining this project and wonder how you can indicate that you have joined. Would it be all right just to type my Wikipedia username in the appropriate place?Vorbee (talk) 19:31, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

@Vorbee: You don't have to really do anything to join. If you want, you can add your name to Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Members, though. That might help other people know your interests. You can also add {{User WPBiography}} to your user page, but it's certainly not required. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:45, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

RfC for pedophilia terminology at the Milo Yiannopoulos article

Opinions are needed on the following matter: Talk:Milo Yiannopoulos#RfC: Should the article include text/sources analyzing Yiannopoulos's statements on pedophilia?. A permalink for it is here. The discussion concerns whether or not to mention that sources note that Yiannopoulos's definition of pedophilia is technically correct, but also that the term is used more broadly than the technical definition (to include adults engaging in sexual activity with minors, or specifically committing child sexual abuse). Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 21:06, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Newly-elected politicians from Virginia

I've created some stubs for some of the newly-elected politicians from Virginia, and invite all to help expand these articles:

• Hala Ayala
• Kelly Fowler
• Wendy Gooditis
• Elizabeth Guzman
• Kathy Tran

Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:09, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Category: 2017 deaths

If one goes to the category "2017 deaths", one sees that, as yet, it only goes up to Deaths in October 2017. As we are now a considerable way into November, it could do with a category "Deaths in November 2017". Vorbee (talk) 09:04, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Albert Cashier

Your opinion would be welcome at Talk:Albert Cashier#Pronoun gender. Mathglot (talk) 09:52, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Criminal in biographies

Comments are requested at Wikipedia talk:Biographies of living persons § RfC about mentioning a persons criminal status (BLP CRIME). Thank you. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 02:41, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

Seeking reviewers for Natacha Rambova article

Hello all, I've recently done significant work on the Natacha Rambova article, and I frankly feel it is at Featured article status at this point. I am trying to get it there so that it can potentially make it to "Featured article of the day" for January 19 (her birthdate). It is currently unranked, but I have nominated it for GA status and would love it if anyone would be interested in doing a review. She is a fascinating topic whose earlier Wiki did not do her justice. Thank you! --Drown Soda (talk) 05:31, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

Gail Kim

Gail Kim, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 09:36, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

Help

How do I include this deletion discussion on a WP:BLP in this project? I tried reading up, and there was little "how to" knowledge, loads of policy though. I am sure, you guys get a lot of this "include" thing. Also, is there a Wikiproject or workgroup that specializes on BLPs? I would like to include the deletion discussion there too. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 21:54, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

Which names should be included in "Me Too" (hashtag) article?

Additional input is needed here (see the "Revert" subsection", specifically) re: whether or not names of people without Wikipedia articles of their own should be included in the list. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:54, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

"Aleksander Kopatzky" (real name: Igor Orlov) wasn't "Sasha"???

Who, pray tell, "later disproved" Kopatzky's being the "Sasha" Golitsyn had heard about?

Have you read Tennent H. Bagley's book "Spy Wars"?

Just a minor point: Did you know that the Russian nickname for Aleksander is ...Tommy Mahon (talk) 03:20, 17 November 2017 (UTC)"Sasha"?

Discussion at BLP/N

Your input is requested in the discussion at WP:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#BLP_vio regarding the article Pardon of Joe Arpaio. ^{Atsme📞📧} 14:52, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Mark Schwahn sexual harassment allegations

Opinions are needed on the following matter: Talk:Mark Schwahn#Undue section. A permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 22:45, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Article on Geoff Tootill

I see that the article on Geoff Tootill has not received a ranking as yet on Wikipedia's quality scale. Looking at the article, I think it is stub class, although other members of this project group may wish to differ. Vorbee (talk) 20:39, 19 November 2017 (UTC) I see that the article does have the category "British engineer stubs" listed at the end of the article, but on its talk page, this article is still listed as an unassessed biography article. Vorbee (talk) 16:51, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

WiR December highlights

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Talk:Fatimah

Comments are requested at Talk:Fatimah § Requested move 23 November 2017 concerning a proposed title change. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 15:36, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

Pseudonyms, stage names, nicknames, hypocorisms, and common names

Some recent changes have been made at WP:Manual of Style/Biographies regarding pseudonyms, stage names, nicknames, hypocorisms, and common names. If anyone wants to support, challenge, or simply discuss the changes, see Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biographies#Substantive revision of "Pseudonyms, stage names, nicknames, hypocorisms, and common names". A permalink for the matter is here. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 02:01, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Draft:Alexander Jutkowitz

On behalf of Alexander Jutkowitz and Group SJR, I've submitted draft articles for both the businessman and company (see Draft:Group SJR) as part of my work at Beutler Ink. Given my conflict of interest, I will not publish either article to the main space and ask uninvolved editors to review both for accuracy, neutrality, and verifiability. Is there a WikiProject Biography member who is willing to take a look at Draft:Alexander Jutkowitz for possible move into the main space? I plan to upload a photograph for the infobox once the article is live. Thanks for your consideration, Inkian Jason (talk) 19:04, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Date of birth missing

In Wikipedia I have just come across an article with a date of birth missing - Michael Hutchinson (politician), an article on a Belizean politican. I think it may be an idea if you have a section on biographical entries where the year of birth is missing. Vorbee (talk) 16:38, 24 November 2017 (UTC) I have come across another entry where the year of birth is missing - the article on David Lewis (psychologist). It would not surprise me if there were a whole series of entries where the year of birth is missing, and it might be appropriate if we had a category for "Year of birth" entries in Wikipedia. Vorbee (talk) 20:25, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Have you seen Category:Year of birth missing (living people) and Category:Year of birth missing? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 01:21, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

2017 deaths

The category 2017 deaths does not yet have a highlighted category Deaths in November 2017. As we are now in December 2017, it could benefit from such a sub-category. I shall appreciate it if somebody could see to this. Many thanks in advance for any co-operation here, Vorbee (talk) 09:04, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

WP:AALERTS need some help on Community Wishlist Survey

Many of you use Article Alerts to get notified of discussions (PRODs and AfD in particular). However, due to our limit resources (one bot coder), not a whole lot of work can be done on Article Alerts to expand and maintain the bot. If the coder gets run over by a bus, then it's quite possible this tool would become unavailable in the future.

There's currently a proposal on the Community Wishlist Survey for the WMF to take over the project, and make it both more robust / less likely to crash / have better support for new features. But one of the main things is that with a full team behind Article Alerts, this could also be ported to other languages!

So if you make use of Article Alerts and want to keep using it and see it ported to other languages, please go and support the proposal. And advertise it to the other biography projects in other languages too to let them know this exists, otherwise they might miss out on this feature! Thanks in advance! Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 15:10, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Disambiguation links on pages tagged by this wikiproject

Wikipedia has many thousands of wikilinks which point to disambiguation pages. It would be useful to readers if these links directed them to the specific pages of interest, rather than making them search through a list. Members of WikiProject Disambiguation have been working on this and the total number is now below 20,000 for the first time. Some of these links require specialist knowledge of the topics concerned and therefore it would be great if you could help in your area of expertise.

A list of the relevant links on pages which fall within the remit of this wikiproject can be found at http://69.142.160.183/~dispenser/cgi-bin/topic_points.py?banner=WikiProject_Biography

Please take a few minutes to help make these more useful to our readers.— Rod ^talk 12:19, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

"African-American" v. "American" in the lede

Is there a rule for using "African-American" as opposed to "American" in the lede please? I am working on African-American academics at present and I am not sure which one to use. Please ping me when you reply. Thank you!Zigzig20s (talk) 09:29, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

@Zigzig20s: Best practice for cultural group identification is to use the identifier the person self-identifies with as reported in reliable sources. When in doubt, go with the lest restrictive grouping (i.e. "American" over "X-American" or "British" over "English") unless a person clearly self-identifies with a specific label. From MOS:ID "use the term that is most commonly used by reliable sources. If it isn't clear which is most used, use the term that the person or group uses." Also, WP:EGRS: "As to the inclusion of people in a category related to ethnicity, gender, religion, sexuality, or disability, please remember that inclusion must be based on reliable sources." If reliable sources constently use a term, Wikipedia should follow suit, but when in doubt, use the most general term which is specific enough to have reliable sourcing (i.e. "American" can be established merely birth, but African-American would need specific reliable sourcing that the person identifies as such). --Jayron32 12:10, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

That's pretty good advice. Also, for what it's worth, MOS:BIO says, "Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality should generally not be in the lead unless it is relevant to the subject's notability." NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 12:21, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

What about the president of historically black colleges (Kevin D. Rome), or a scholar of African-American literature (Blyden Jackson)?Zigzig20s (talk) 14:06, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Personally I would remove "African-American" from the lead of Kevin D. Rome, since there is nothing in the article that suggests his cultural group is part of what makes him notable. As opposed to Booker T. Washington, which I think correctly puts "African-American" in the lead but not the first sentence. Kendall-K1 (talk) 17:27, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

That's also good advice; generally ethinicity is only important if their reason of notability is strongly tied to ethnicity (such as a person who was a pioneer in breaking barriers to entry for an oppressed minority, etc.) and even then, it's probably best to discuss it in context rather than just put it in the first sentence. The first sentence usually highlights nationality (i.e. country of citizenship) rather than ethnicity (i.e. cultural identity). Though of course nuance should be followed in all cases. Every article should be considered on its own terms, and we must be careful not to paint with a broad brush here; rules should be applied in reasonable ways, not foolishly consistent. --Jayron32 17:31, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Well, Rome is the president of a historically black university...Zigzig20s (talk) 18:16, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

What happened to 2017 deaths?

Looking at the category "2017 deaths", I see it still lacks a category "Deaths in November 2017". Vorbee (talk) 14:48, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

This now appears to have been rectified, but the category still lacks a sub-category with the title "Deaths in December 2017". Is it the case that we normally wait for these months to pass before creating such sub-categories? As a fairly new-comer to this WikiProject, I appreciate that I still have a lot to learn. Vorbee (talk) 20:53, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Article on Zoltan Paulinyi

The article on Zoltan Paulinyi could do with some work. It begins in a rather confused way, and has a note heading it saying that it might not meet Wikipedia's standards. Vorbee (talk) 18:27, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

RfC on Benito Mussolini

#1

File:Benito Mussolini Duce.jpg

#2

File:Benito Mussolini (cropped).jpg

#3

#4

There is currently a Request for Comment on the Benito Mussolini article which may concern members of this project. the issue is the lead image to be used in the infobox, i.e. whether to keep the current portrait ("#1"), or replace it with one of the proposed alternatives. Any input would be appreciated, best regards -- Director (talk) 07:32, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

I think that the current photograph is all right, unless you think a photograph with a more medical feel to it is needed in which case people may wish to consider Photo Four.Vorbee (talk) 20:03, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Josephine Butler

You are invited to comment at Talk:Josephine Butler#Request for comment on names where there's an issue about naming; the article (which is currently a FA) refers to its female subject by her first name throughout "for simplicity". Any input is welcome. --John (talk) 18:21, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Please comment at the RfC

There is a discussion involving an AfD consensus to merge at Talk:Matt_Lauer#Requests_for_comment_from_wider_community ^{Atsme📞📧} 15:17, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

BBC 100 Women

I've started a discussion on Wikipedia talk:Notability_(people)#BBC_100_Women on whether the women listed on this program are inherently notable. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:26, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Blake Ricciardi

Would someone from this WikiProject take a look at Blake Ricciardi? I am unable to find any sources which show that this person in Wikipedia notable enough for a stand-alone article per WP:GNG or WP:BIO. Googling gets a number of hits, but these seem to be mainly primary sources or trivia mentions and not the significant coverage in independent reliable sources needed for Wikipedia notability. It has been suggested that the article be taken to AfD, but I'm asking here to see if someone might be aware of better sources which can be used. The article was recently heaviy edited by an IP (most likely someone connected to the subject) who turned it into a mish-mash over promotional content. It was also most likely created by someone connected to subject. The article has been restored to the last table version before the IP editing, but even that doesn't seem good enough to avoid AfD. Thanks in advance. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:55, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Mohsen Yeganeh

Could someone please take a look at the Mohsen Yeganeh controversy? This is another good RS. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 20:48, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

RfC on the inclusion of an infobox on Talk:Cary Grant

You are invited to comment at Talk:Cary Grant where there's an ongoing RfC on the inclusion of an infobox. jcc (tea and biscuits) 18:43, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Death of Fadhel Al-Matrook

Is it acceptable to have photos of a dead body, as appear at Death of Fadhel Al-Matrook (particularly the more graphic one further down)? I was surprised by this, and don't think I have seen something like that here before. (If this isn't the correct place to ask, please let me know where I ought to go - I wasn't sure anyone would see it on the article's talk page.) Jessicapierce (talk) 07:56, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

I guess WP:GRATUITOUS would be the applicable guideline: "Material that could be considered vulgar, obscene or offensive should not be included unless it is treated in an encyclopedic manner." NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 09:12, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

You should open a discussion on the talk page, then come here and invite people to comment there. My own opinion is that the lead image should not be of a dead body, since the purpose is to identify the subject, not illustrate how he died. I would use the portrait if nothing else is available. The other, graphic image, I don't know. Kendall-K1 (talk) 12:11, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

How do we treat this with respect?

Hello, biographers! If you´re interested, there´s a discussion at Talk:Marlon_Brando#Children_and_sources about how to best mention Brandos roughly 16 (perhaps) children in the article. Your help is welcome. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:52, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Ake Hellman

Wikipedia has (and understandably so) a tag saying "This biography of a living person needs additional citations for verification". This tag can surely be removed once the person is deceased, as is the case for Ake Hellman. Vorbee (talk) 17:28, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

True enough. If you want, you can replace the old cleanup template with {{refimprove}}. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 17:33, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

RM notification

Greetings! I have recently relisted a requested move discussion at Talk:Show_Luo#Requested_move_18_December_2017, regarding a page relating to this WikiProject. Discussion and opinions are invited. Thanks, QEDK (愛 ☃️ 海) 06:15, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

New Year's resolution: Write more articles for Women in Red!

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Task force for stubs

Would it be an idea to have a Wikipedia Task Force within this WikiProject group for biographical articles which are stubs? There must be a lot of biographical articles in Wikipedian which are still stubs. Vorbee (talk)

What would the task force do? NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 16:46, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Simply look over biographical entries in Wikipedia which are stubs. If you think the idea is superfluous, fair enough. Vorbee (talk) 21:01, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

A-Class review for Lawrence Weathers needs attention

A few more editors are needed to complete the A-Class review for Lawrence Weathers; please stop by and help review the article! Thanks! AustralianRupert (talk) 08:13, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

John Philoponus

Hi, this file description reads CUSTODIAL HISTORY: A former owner, Michelangelo Guatani of Bologna, has transcribed the Latin title on the outside of the upper cover, stating he had acquired the MS. in March 1874. He has also written a note on the first fly-leaf concerning Joannes Philoponus, an Alexandrian Christian philosopher who flourished in the first half of the sixth century, and wrote Commentaries on Aristotle, and other philosophical and scientific works, which are mostly unpublished.. Could this be linked to John Philoponus? Thank you for your time. If yes, maybe this file (and others related to the Thesaurus thesaurorum et secretum could be categorized. Thank you for your time. :) Lotje (talk) 17:38, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Recruit new editors for your project?

Happy new year! I've been building a tool to help WikiProjects identify and recruit new editors to join and contribute, and collaborated with some WikiProject organizers to make it better. We also wrote a Signpost article to introduce it to the entire Wikipedia community.

Right now, we are ready to make it available to more WikiProjects that need it, and I’d like to introduce it to your project! If you are interested in trying out our tool, feel free to sign up. Bobo.03 (talk) 19:49, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Matt Bomer

Bomer's filmography got stripped out to a separate article, but what gets me is the feature list, did I miss something on reviewing the code, can't see how it would be an FL already. Govvy (talk) 18:49, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Matt Stahl

Matt Stahl was created in August 2017, but it's currently nothing but a few sentences with citation to IMDb and All Music. The subject's listed as a TV producer/musician, but I'm wondering if anything he's done would help him pass WP:BIO or even WP:MUSICBIO? -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:05, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

I don't see how it passes WP:GNG, If I was you I would PROD it. Govvy (talk) 22:40, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

There isn't anything relevant on Google News. I guess I'd be skeptical. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:18, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Is biography.com a reliable source for biographies of living persons?

A discussion is taking place at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#It's time to talk about biography.com generally. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 17:27, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Year of Birth of Gian-Carlo Coppola

The Anglophone page of Wikipedia states the year 1964 as year of birth of Gian-Carlo Coppola. All other pages of Wikipedia state the year 1963 as year of his birth.

The article of the people magazine from the year 1986, belonging to his death, states also the 22-year-old Gian-Carlo Coppola. This would also confirm the year 1963 as year of his birth.

http://people.com/archive/two-months-after-the-boating-accident-griffin-oneal-is-indicted-in-the-death-of-friend-gio-coppola-vol-26-no-6/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.113.11.16 (talk) 08:22, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Two Articles About The Same Person (AP Moller)

To Whom It May Concern,

There are two articles that I believe are about the same person (AP Moller). One of them is this one. Here is the URL to the other one which has lots more information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Peter_M%C3%B8ller

I don't see any point in there being two articles about the same person. I just wanted to inform you about the other article because I wasn't sure if you were aware. I'll let you decide what to do about this.

Sincerely,

Daniel Klimovich — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniel Klimovich (talk • contribs) 14:35, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

"Carolina Oliphant, Lady Nairne", by any other name, would ...

I've started a Request for Comment on Talk:Carolina Nairne#Request for comment on how to refer to the article subject: How should the article refer to its subject, Carolina Oliphant, Lady Nairne, after the initial mention of her full name? Comments from those interested in biographical articles are sought. --GRuban (talk) 17:59, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

A-Class review for Jean-Baptiste Ouédraogo needs attention

A few more editors are needed to complete the A-Class review for Jean-Baptiste Ouédraogo; please stop by and help review the article! Thanks! AustralianRupert (talk) 10:28, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Joey Gibson (political activist)

Project members are welcome to help expand and improve the Joey Gibson (political activist) article, which has been nominated for deletion, or participate in the ongoing discussion. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:47, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Please come and help...

Greetings! I have recently relisted for the third time a requested move debate at Talk:List of Sinhalese monarchs#Requested move 1 January 2018, regarding a page related to this WikiProject. Your opinion and rationale are needed so a consensus can be achieved. Thank you and Happy Publishing!  Paine Ellsworth  ^put'r there  19:52, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Feburary 2018 at Women in Red

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Gawker added as source to Kid Rock

Hi. Was wondering if Gawker was a reliable source. TheRealBoognish (talk) 21:57, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

how do i join this group?

i want to be a part of Wikiproject but don't know how. Please advice.

xo.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarah312x (talk • contribs) 05:55, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Sarah312x. If you're interested in joining WikiProject Biography, you can add yourself to our membership list at Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Members. You can also add {{User WPBiography}} to your user page to tell people that you're a member. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 08:14, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Expat cats

I've always thought of an expatriate as someone who lives outside their home country for some period of time. So I was surprised to find Louis Armstrong in categories for American expats in France, Nigeria, and Ghana. He arrived in Nigeria on October 17,[1] and on October 28 he moved on to Congo.[2] A stay of no more than 11 days, to me, doesn't make him an expat. Do we have any criteria for including someone in these categories? Kendall-K1 (talk) 16:29, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

general feedback/review

Hi.
I recently created few biographical articles most of them are stubs, and few are start-class. Would you guys please take a look at them and let me know how did i do on content level, and tecnhical level? (defsort, auth ctrl, and similar stuff) I am going to create around 20 more similar articles, so suggestions would be appriciated a lot. William K. James, Rutledge P. Hazzard, Frank J. Ruocco. Thanks, —usernamekiran(talk) 03:37, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Short descriptions

I dont know if this project's members are aware of the short descriptions issue, where WMF have been providing short descriptions of Wikipedia articles drawn from Wikidata to disambiguate our articles, mainly in mobile view, and hidden from desktop view, which results in occasional blp violations and other problems when vandalism on Wikidata is associated and displayed with Wikipedia content. Anyway, there will be a method provided by WMF to fix this problem by including a short description on Wikipedia for each article, which is intended to be displayed in search results and that sort of thing. This is a large project with a large number of articles, and it would be helpful if it came up with some recommendations on what can and should be included in a short description. As a starting point, a length of up to 40 characters can be considered. This may not always work, but what sort of information should be provided about a biographical article within these limitations where it is possible?

For background, see Wikipedia_talk:Wikidata/2018_State_of_affairs#Short_descriptions. Cheers · · · Peter (Southwood) ^(talk): 20:09, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

TFAR notice

Members of this WikiProject might be interested in Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Lady Gaga. Snuggums (talk / edits) 00:42, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Which version

I suspect this edit is vandalism, I come here rather than the article talk page in the hope of a faster response, as if so it's an active vandal and should be indeffed ASAP.

This is another example.

If either of these can be confirmed as vandalism, I'll block them. Andrewa (talk) 03:59, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Honors and awards

Many biography articles have an "Honors and awards" section, with a bare CV-style list of awards the person has won. For famous people, these lists can be quite long. Are there any Wikipedia policies and guidelines that govern these lists? I couldn't find anything in WP:MOS and MOS:BLP. --Nbauman (talk) 17:54, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Not that I know of, which would by default put this stuff under our core content policies. Typically, I remove any vanity awards, any awards from self-published blogs, and any unsourced awards that look unlikely ("Academy Award for Best Food Catering"... yeah, right). Beyond that, I think awards should generally demonstrate notability by having their own article or have a citation to an independent source. This is the only way we can tell that they're not some random internet-only award that nobody cares about, like NinjaRobotPirate's Award for Best Wikipedia Admin (I'm the front runner this year!). NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 19:32, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Working on P. George Benson Biography: question about references

Hi, I'm new t wikipedia and working on P. George Benson's biography. I have already read the guidelines for references, but there are some things that we only have referenced in articles from news journals or magazines. Can they not be used under any circumstance? How do I properly cite those? Thank you so much.˜˜˜˜Danielagt — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danielagt (talk • contribs) 14:43, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

@Danielagt: it looks like your edits were reverted for a few reasons: Atlantic306 says that too much of the content was unsourced, you have a conflict of interest, and the sources that you cited were added improperly. The last one is easy to fix. The problem was that you were using embedded external links in the article's body – for example, links of the format [http://www.example.com/ this is an example]. This is disallowed by our guideline on external links. Instead, you should use inline citations, like <ref>[http://www.example.com/ this is an example]</ref>. That's not so difficult for any Wikipedia editor to fix, really, and I would probably fix that myself instead of reverting it. However, you also added a lot of content that wasn't sourced. We have no way of knowing whether this stuff is true or not, so we typically remove this from biographies of living people. Finally, the potential conflict of interest is something that can make following our policies more difficult, because you may be writing about something that you are too close to. We don't restrict people from editing articles with which they make a COI, but we do discourage it. As far as acceptable sources go, newspapers, academic journals, and magazines are all broadly acceptable. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 15:56, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

@NinjaRobotPirate: Thank you so much for your response, this is super helpful!

Women's History Month 2018 at Women in Red

		Welcome to Women in Red's March 2018 worldwide online editathons. Historically, our March event has been one of the biggest offerings of the year. This year, we are collaborating with two other wiki communities. Our article campaign is the official on-line/virtual node for Art+Feminism. Our image campaign supports the Whose Knowledge? initiative. Women's History Month 2018 Continuing: #1day1woman Global Initiative
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A-Class review for John Glenn needs attention

A few more editors are needed to complete the A-Class review for John Glenn; please stop by and help review the article! Thanks! AustralianRupert (talk) 09:06, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

please correct the Mary Austin Holley page

This is the page to which I was directed when I tried to access the talk page about Mary Austin Holley. ¶I am concerned that that page is more about Mary Austin Holley's male relatives, her domestic situation, and her live births, than it is about her. I am also concerned that its first sentence contains errors. ¶I am not a student of history, but I came across an interesting paragraph about Holley in a book by Caroline Schimmel, OK, I'll Do It Myself(New York, 2017), which is why I tried to find out more on Wikipedia. Schimmel states that Holley's views about Christianity focused on the loving nature of Christ — unusual for the time. (Her views were important because, as a minister's wife, she was part of a ministering unit.) After she was widowed (in 1827), Holley worked as a nanny for mulatto friends (highly unusual for a white woman). According to Schimmel, who is a librarian by profession, Holley's first book, the first ever book about the new Texas colony, was called Texas: Observations, Historical, Geographical and Descriptive, in a Series of Letters; this differs from the title given in the Wikipedia article. The date of publication is the same: 1833. In 1836, according to Schimmel, Holley published a second book called simply Texas, which focused on economic opportunities and the colony's openness to women. In Washington, Holley lobbied for statehood for the colony. ¶I would appreciate it if someone who has background in this area could confirm these facts, get rid of the focus on Holley's male relatives, and write a proper piece about her. Sanbrook (talk) 22:40, 26 February 2018 (UTC)Sanbrook

Sanbrook, I'm not finding any indication of a book by the title you've mentioned. I see listings for a couple exhibitions by the person you named but no book. Can you provide an ISBN number for it? John from Idegon (talk) 00:39, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

OK, I'll Do It Myself is a self-published book with no ISBN. OCLC number=1004747152 32.218.34.235 (talk) 16:20, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

ATTN Editors/Administrators - Re Draft:Nestor Mesta Chayres - Biography of a noted Mexican Tenor

ATTN. Editors/Administrators - Re:Draft:Nestor Mesta Chayres - noted Mexican Tenor

Hello Fellow Wikipedians - If an Editor or Administrator is free, the draft Draft:Nestor Mesta Chayres appears to be ready for a move from draftspace to mainpage space. Perhaps an Editor or Administrator is available to assist in the move. Many thanks once again for your kind and thoughtful assistance and best wishes for your continued success in the future. With best regards. PS

PS - When the move to mainpaige space is executed the article should probably be linked on Wikidata to es:Nestor Mesta Chayres on the Spanish Wikipedia (Q50293161) and it:Néstor Mesta Chaires ((Q20006068) on the Italian Wikipedia. Thanks once again for your kind consideration and best wishes for the success of WikiProject Biography! 104.207.219.150 (talk) 21:25, 2 March 2018 (UTC)PS

A-Class review for Brian Robertson, 1st Baron Robertson of Oakridge needs attention

A few more editors are needed to complete the A-Class review for Brian Robertson, 1st Baron Robertson of Oakridge; please stop by and help review the article! Thanks! AustralianRupert (talk) 01:45, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Re-write of Erich Neumann biography

I am about to start a re-write of the Erich Neumann biography. As a historian, my area of expertise is Jung history. I have authored major (and relatively stable) rewrites of the Wiki articles on C. G. Jung's "Red Book" and "Black Books," and Jung's Septem Sermones ad Mortuos. I also added to the re-write of the Sabina Spielrein biography. If anyone has comments to add, or edits to offer, I will appreciate you contributions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LOwens (talk • contribs) LOwens (talk) 11:19, 9 March 2018 (UTC)LOwens

Emma Portman, Viscountess Portman article

Hi, all. We need people weighing in at Talk:Emma Portman, Viscountess Portman#Accuracy. It's about when Portman dies and therefore the accuracy of the viscountess title. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 19:27, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

David Ogden Stiers sexuality RFC

There is an RFC which may be of interest to the members of this wikiproject Talk:David_Ogden_Stiers#RFC_regarding_the_sexuality_of_David_Ogden_Stiers ResultingConstant (talk) 21:51, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

A-Class review for Marcian needs attention

A few more editors are needed to complete the A-Class review for Marcian; please stop by and help review the article! Thanks! AustralianRupert (talk) 11:47, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Biography Infobox photo

I've been trying to put a portrait photo into an infobox at Timur Novikov, and the author of the photo objects to me using a cropped version of the photo. Anyone care to opine? This discussion is on my [TP]? MB 02:01, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

You could hold an RFC on the article's talk page. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 04:15, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Sure, but first someone might recall a similar discussion that could settle this quickly. The discussion has been moved to the article talk page Talk:Timur Novikov#Infobox Photo MB 16:49, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

We could use some more editors to discuss at Talk:Timur Novikov. We have a photo of the subject, but the photographer does not want us to use a version that has been cropped to a head shot of the subject. Kendall-K1 (talk) 16:12, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

If you want more editors to discuss the matter, hold an RFC. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 00:38, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Neutral notice

A move request regarding Deadline.com / Deadline Hollywood, a website often cited by this Project, is taking place at Talk:Deadline Hollywood#Requested move 11 March 2018. It is scheduled to end in seven days.--Tenebrae (talk) 19:31, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

Hello, Please note that Ted Gärdestad, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of Today's articles for improvement. The article was scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing! Delivered by — MusikBot talk 00:05, 12 March 2018 (UTC) on behalf of the TAFI team

Stale GAR

Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Shenandoah (band)/1 has been sitting stale since September. I would like to see more participation here to help close the reassessment and see if the article still meets GA criteria. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 04:16, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Category sort keys for Thai people/Thai people categories

Hi. There's discussion on how sort keys should be used for Thai people and/or Thai people categories at Wikipedia talk:Categorization of people#Thai names (specific options outlined below at Wikipedia talk:Categorization of people#Moving forward. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:50, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Help with improvement to Eddie Rosenstein article

Hello. On behalf of Eddie Rosenstein I am proposing some changes to improve his article and I am wondering if some members of this WikiProject would like to review them. If you're interested, my request is here. Thanks. Undercero (talk) 16:20, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Hyphenation in double-barrelled surnames

Please see Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style#Q:_Do_we_use_hyphen_or_hyphen-minus_in_double-barrelled_surnames?. Comments there welcome.LeadSongDog come howl! 21:38, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Noob

How, exactly do I join? Mikkopresents (talk) 00:49, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Sabine Hossenfelder

Article Sabine Hossenfelder has been nominated for AfD. Editors interested in the discussion are welcome to share their views on the discussion page. Thanks--UbedJunejo (talk•cont) 01:14, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

April 2018 at Women in Red

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The Signpost

The Signpost has now been published after a long delay. There are some articles in it that may be of interest to biography writers and contributors. Don't hesitate to contribute to the comments sections. All Wikipedia editors are welcome to submit articles on any topic for consideration by the editorial board for the next issue.Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:26, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Roseanne Barr GAR

I've started WP:Good article reassessment/Roseanne Barr/1 and welcome input from others. Snuggums (talk / edits) 22:16, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Dipak Nandy

Article Dipak Nandy has been nominated for AfD. Editors interested in the discussion are welcome to share their views on the discussion page. Thanks Rathfelder (talk) 11:24, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

John Harrison

We have an issue with his brithdate, see talk page, our article previously had March 24 (as do several books found with Google (hah!)), but Google Doodle says it's today and so there is now many sources that say today, but maybe its a Gregorian Calendar issue - if you have access to British sources in particular - that might help. Alanscottwalker (talk) 15:43, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Notification of Rapid Grant proposal for Wikidata QuickSheets - useful in BLP work

Hello all, I'm not sure how engaged WikiProject Biography is in Wikidata, but I wanted to let you all know that I have submitted a Rapid Grant proposal to further develop software that will semi-automate the process of moving BLP data from Wikipedia to Wikidata. As you will see, it is particularly useful for BLP and *gap work, as it will allow you to quickly source claims. The tool is designed to be accessible to those without programming experience by using simple article lists to generate spreadsheets for human evaluation. This builds on work done as part the Art+Feminism campaign, which is detailed at our workplan where you can see in detail more about how the tool works. I welcome your feedback on the proposal. --Theredproject (talk) 21:31, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Invitation

A relevant discussion for converting {{Infobox writer}} into a wrapper of this template has been initiated at Template talk:Infobox writer#convert_to_wrapper. Your comments will be appreciated. Capankajsmilyo (talk) 04:50, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Discussion Invitation

A merge proposal was made to merge Keith Raniere with NXIVM in November 2017, I have revived the merge proposal. Please see discussion here. Your comments in the discussion would be appreciated since the page is within this WikiProject. -- Waddie96 (talk) 14:41, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Daniel Pinder

Could someone from here take a look at this article please? My kneejerk reaction was to speedy it as G11, but I'm pretty sure the guy is notable. Spent about 20 minutes cleaning up the atrocious grammar and some of the puff, but I'm at the end of what I can di with a TV actor. If you need a reason for ACTRIAL to be made permanent, this is it. John from Idegon (talk) 00:21, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Cristiano Ronaldo RfC

Please note that I have opened an RfC regarding a contentious statement within the lead section of the Cristiano Ronaldo article. Contributions are welcome on the talk page. Thanks, Nzd (talk) 20:59, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

That article is a useless swamp of fan puke. I recommend you give up on it. Kendall-K1 (talk) 20:17, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

While I certainly sympathise with that sentiment, I would encourage any contributions from non-involved editors to the conversation. Nzd (talk) 12:53, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

A-Class review for Emanuel Moravec needs attention

A few more editors are needed to complete the A-Class review for Emanuel Moravec; please stop by and help review the article! Thanks! AustralianRupert (talk) 08:28, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Living People tag

How long does the tag saying "This article must adhere to the guidelines on living people" tag remain on the talk page of an article once the subject of the article is deceased? I have just been on the talk page of Neil Shand and see that the tag is there even though his death was announced on 15 April 2018. Vorbee (talk) 19:54, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

WP:BDP says two years max, but that would be for someone like Kim Jong-nam, who was fairly prominent, had a contentious death, and left family behind. I would, however, give it more than just a few hours. Kendall-K1 (talk) 20:32, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Article on John Sentamu

I see the article on John Sentamu has been rated as Start Class, but I wonder whether anybody thought it was rather too long to remain as Start Class. Vorbee (talk) 19:48, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Eva McLaren

I have done a little research on her that can be found at Talk:Eva McLaren. I don't know where the "Shaw" name comes from, but anyway the article could probably be improved and I think I'm not seeing the whole picture. Alexis Jazz (talk) 00:07, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

RfC notification

There is an RfC at the Sean Hannity article talk page members of this project might interested in taking part in here. -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 17:16, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

RfC Notification

There is an RfC at the John Bolton article talk page members of this project might interested in taking part in here. -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 01:29, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

RfC Notification

There is an RfC at the Kate Mara article talk page members of this project might interested in taking part in here. -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 02:32, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Steuart Walton

Hi! There is an edit request for review for updates to the Steuart Walton article. I will not direct edit the page because I have a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, which I disclosed on my user page and declared on Talk:Steuart Walton. In a nutshell, this article is a bit outdated and missing some recent information about Mr. Walton's RZC Investments, which purchased bikewear company Rapha in 2017, and does not include details about his work with the Walton Family Foundation and Crystal Bridges. I prepared an updated draft of this article that tidies up, clarifies and expands on some of the existing content, and adds some of the missing details in Mr. Walton's Career. Would anyone from this project be able to review my draft? Thanks, Kt2011 (Talk · COI:Walton family) 13:40, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Content discussion notification

There is an informal RfC/discussion at the Diamond and Silk article talk page found here that members of this project might interested in taking part in. -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 02:09, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Category:NA-Class biography articles

There are Userspaces showing up in the NA category, where users are putting {{WikiProject Biography}} template on their main space, are there any rules against doing this or not? Govvy (talk) 20:50, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

I would probably advise against it, but I am willing to hear reasons for it. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 20:57, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Well I noticed earlier that the project page was vandalised by User:Atif Rasheed Malik who put WP Bio template on his userspace, it clearly says talk pages only, I removed it and it put it back. I had his weird draft page speedy deleted earlier, so... Govvy (talk) 21:07, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

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One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

Hello, Please note that Paul Anka, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of Today's articles for improvement. The article was scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing! Delivered by — MusikBot talk 00:05, 30 April 2018 (UTC) on behalf of the TAFI team

Help with Kevin Plank request

Hi there! I recently posted an edit request for the article on Under Armour CEO Kevin Plank that might interest members of WikiProject Biography. I'm seeking to update the Early life section. While there are no major issues with the existing section, there is room for improvement. I'm hoping to add citations where none exist, clarify some details that aren't accurate, and a few other clean-up items. This is laid out fully at Talk:Kevin Plank.

As I do have a conflict of interest here, since I'm making this suggestion on behalf of Mr. Plank via agency SKDKnickerbocker as part of my work at Beutler Ink, I won't make any edits to the article myself. Instead, I welcome input from uninvolved editors and assistance taking live changes as appropriate. Thanks in advance, 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 13:48, 1 May 2018 (UTC)