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Moved from main page, response to Balloonman's question RE User Name[edit]

Comment If memory serves both User:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry and User:Bongwarrior had concerns over their username at their RFA and neither has changed their usernames.... and rightly so. Pedro :  Chat  23:02, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It's not a deal breaker for me, but it is a concern that I wanted to raise. Remember that User:Budgiekiller did change his name when running for admin or was it when he ran for 'crat?---Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 23:29, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well-remembered prescedent, Balloonman. Yes, Budgiekiller (which references some sports rivalry thing) changed when asked in RFA, in 2007. CHU. Whilst I wouldn't personally insist on a namechange to support, I can see your point that it might not be ideal to show professionalism, and changing it would probably be best, unless you are really extremely attached to it.  Chzz  ►  13:54, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Would shortening my signature to something like SW be a significant improvement? SnottyWong spout 15:09, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Can't speak for others, but for me, it would... when I first saw your RfA, I thought for sure it was a NOTNOW rfa; again it's that first impression that your username leaves people with. It also sets the tone in how others view you. I honestly believe that if you changed your name/sig, that others would start to see you in a better light. At bare minimum, it indicates a person who hears and understands the concerns of others, assesses the issue an acts upon it. (As Pedro pointed out, it is not required that you change it, but something to consider.)---Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 15:22, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

moved from main page here, if you do decide to change your name/sig as a result of this discussion, you might want to indicate that on the main page, I just felt that the discussion was getting a little astray/long for the main page.---Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 15:25, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I had similar objections to User:NuclearWarfare's handle, which for me raises much more serious tone issues than something as innocuous as "snotty". Eye of the beholder, I guess. At the time of his RfA he said he'd be open to changing it and later he simply shortened his signature to NW as SW has proposed. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:35, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(ec)Actually, my concern was more over the sexual implication that Wong conjures when placed after the snotty. Call me a dirty old man, but the combination of snotty and wong just brings an image to mind that I'd rather not think about...---Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 15:40, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My opinion: this is massively overblown. If his name was "Shitface" or "Fuckyou" I'd understand, but Snottywong? It's just a nickname. Some people are clearly oversensitive. AD 15:39, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Full disclosure, I remember this came up once before on my user talk page, and the overall sentiment was that there wasn't a problem (see User talk:Snottywong/Archive 2#Your username). I understand that my username is not problematic to the point that I could be forced to change it, but I am also sensitive to the concerns brought up by Balloonman and others. I will explore my options regarding a username change and/or a sig change and see if there is any room for improvement with which I am comfortable. SnottyWong gossip 16:07, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Balloonman, you are a dirty old man. "Wong" isn't slang for "penis", and if it invokes that picture in your mind, it's solely due to your imagination. The discussion SW linked to above is the perfect example as to why this concern shouldn't need to be addressed. Swarm X 10:08, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Next thing you know you'll be telling me that nice tracks of land isn't a euphamism for boobs.---Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 17:02, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
But father, I don't like her. I'd just rather sing..... SnottyWong spout 17:06, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, one could question the appropriateness of your name, Balloonman. :P Swarm X 18:56, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, I want you to know that I am a professional latex manipulator!---Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 19:07, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I guess that makes sense. However, if you were simply called 'Latexman' you could have avoided such confusion. Swarm X 19:43, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Re oppose No. 13[edit]

Revisiting the unanswered questions there. The first was that the candidate did not appear to have checked the NPR link given early in an AFD, that pretty clearly showed the topic was notable. A due diligence issue. The second was his consistent addition of the tl-rescue tag at AFDs as opposed to adding project notifications. Why does he feel the first is so much more important than the second? The third was understatement of WP conflicts. Now to raise a fourth and fifth. The reply states "If that makes me appear to be frequently wrong, so be it." Kind of manifesto-style language, I'd rather see plain exposition. And the statement that if the ARS wants me to recuse myself from closing Rescue articles, they can show a consensus for that - why ask that a probably lengthy and contentious discussion be started? Novickas (talk) 18:19, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't aware you wanted me to answer all of those questions. I'll try to do that below:
  1. Regarding the NPR link, my main concern in that AfD was the original research that the article contained when I voted on it (the entire content of the article was later deleted and rewritten). Notability was only a secondary consideration, which may be why I neglected to put as much effort as I should have into researching it. I can't remember if I actually read that NPR link or not, but reading it now I can see how it could assert notability. Whether we need a separate article on Porch sitting distinct from Porch is something I'm still not convinced of, however.
  2. Regarding ARS notifications on AfD's: The instructions for tagging an article for rescue include the following phrase (in bold): "As part of this tag's use, please comment at the deletion discussion on why this item should be rescued and how that could happen." This is an instruction that very few people follow. Most add the {{rescue}} tag and never mention it at the deletion discussion. I believe it is important to notify the deletion discussion for two reasons: Firstly, the closing admin should be aware of it in case the article is significantly changed during the course of the AfD's (in which case, prior votes must be considered based on the state of the article at the time the vote was cast). Secondly, the closing admin should be aware of any possible canvassing behavior as a result of the rescue tag's use. The rescue tag does notify a certain group of editors who have a propensity to be inclusionists, and therefore has the potential to be used for canvassing purposes even though that is not usually the case. I don't consider what I do to be the same as the deletion sorting that other editors do, because I'm really not sorting anything, I'm just notifying the discussion and the closing admin of the circumstances. I don't feel that notifying the AfD of a rescue tag is any more important than deletion sorting, but at the same time I don't feel compelled or obliged to do both simultaneously. Most of the time, by the time I get to the AfD it has already been deletion-sorted.
  3. Regarding understating the issue of conflicts with the ARS, I'm not sure specifically what you're referring to. I agree that I've had a lot of conflicts in the past, but I think I've done a lot to cease that activity. If you're not familiar with me or my editing patterns, I understand that it might not be evident to you. I can't fault you for looking into my history and finding conflicts and opposing based on that, but I can only ask you to look at more recent history to see the change.
  4. Regarding manifesto language, that's not my intention. I only intended to demonstrate that politics don't play a role in my decisions. The fact that I might look wrong or stupid by voting differently from the majority doesn't enter into my thought process. I just vote the way I think.
  5. Regarding recusing myself from closing rescue-tagged articles, I am sensitive to the fact that some ARS members don't like me or don't trust me, which is why I made that concession to begin with. I don't personally believe that it is required, but I understand that others might. This is why I would like to have a brief discussion about it, to get everyone's input. I have no intention of creating a lengthy or contention discussion about it, I'd even be fine with a straw poll. If the consensus is that I shouldn't close rescue-tagged AfD's, then I would be fine with complying with that consensus. Again, I personally don't think it is necessary, but if others do I can and will respect that.

—SnottyWong express 20:16, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Past edit history[edit]

Moved from main page since it was messing up the numbering.

Okip 16:01, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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